Why high dietary fat %? Are we trying to kill each other?

It depends on what your goals are. I eat 50% of my cals from dietary fat (nuts, oils, fatty fish, and avocados). Avocados have tons of fiber. Not sure what the problem is...seems to be working pretty well for me. Feel free to check out my diary.

I think the 0.35 g per pound bodyweight is an estimate for optiumum vitamin solubility. Obviously heavier people will need more fat by that assumption, and I think the answer in the end is that it's different for everyone. Some people like high fat diets because it's known to me more satiating, I think it's really what works for you and your body.

'eating that quantity of fat is likely to give too much unhealthy fat, that's asking for artery clogging '

^^^ Not true if person sticks to mainly unprocessed foods

'The recommendation would be made for someone on a low carb high fat diet. You can't eat potato chips and losing weight, but you can eat bacon and lose weight '

^^^^ this :-)

'eating that quantity of fat is likely to give too much unhealthy fat, that's asking for artery clogging '

^^^ Not true if person sticks to unprocessed foods

'The recommendation would be made for someone on a low carb high fat diet. You can't eat potato chips and losing weight, but you can eat bacon and lose weight '

^^^^ this :-)

.............. you just contradicted yourself in one post so well done for that lol

'eating that quantity of fat is likely to give too much unhealthy fat, that's asking for artery clogging '

^^^ Not true if person sticks to unprocessed foods

'The recommendation would be made for someone on a low carb high fat diet. You can't eat potato chips and losing weight, but you can eat bacon and lose weight '

^^^^ this :-)

.............. you just contradicted yourself in one post so well done for that lol

Waaaaait... You mean bacon is.... is.... is... PROCESSED? WHAT?! Why hasn't anyone made light of such atrocities?!

Because being extreme is the fad du jour. Blame the paleo/ primal folks for turning the overeating of bacon into a dieter's birthright.

Nope, blame that on the abuse of Atkins from last decade's fad diet.

Because being extreme is the fad du jour. Blame the paleo/ primal folks for turning the overeating of bacon into a dieter's birthright.

Nope, blame that on the abuse of Atkins from last decade's fad diet.

Most hardcore Atkin's people I knew are dead.

P/Ps kick it up to a notch that would have made Atkin proud.

what do you think the Paleo/Primal folk have wrong, out of curiosity? not that I agree with absolutely everything Mark Sisson says, but what's your beef?

'cuz fat doesn't make you fat. Anyone doing low carb/no carb is going to have a diet high in fat as well as protein...if you eliminate one macro, the other's go up. It's all very simple really. So long as you are within your calorie goal it doesn't really matter. I get about 30% of my calories from fat...most of it from nuts, avocados, nut butters, olive oil, etc. I'm doing a 40/30/30 ratio of macro nutrients...if I was low carbing it, no doubt my fat macro would be at least 50%.

Let's get out of the '80s shall we...it is 2013...fat doesn't make you fat.

it's got nothing to do with making you fat, it's about internal health, over doing one thing to the other will cause problems, 30% fat is perfectly fine, 70% is not

i eat 55% fat.

dietary fat has no impact on body fat unless you're eating at a caloric surplus. fat is also great for long term energy whereas carbs are better for short term energy. I like long term energy.

55% fat, 25% carbs 20% protein

You are trying to gain weight - not lose. And you consume a ridiculously high calorie level that would require more fat due to density. I specifically said this is bad advice for those who are eating at a deficit and trying to support good health.

Would you suggest to your "clients" that they consume more fat and less protein and carbs than their body needs? Because that's what's happening here every day.

that's a great point, and one worth addressing

if you're eating at a deficit, it's MORE important to hit your micronutrient levels than it is to hit any particular fat macro. Absolutely. That's why using percentages is silly on the whole. Protein requirements are essentially static, and only change with your lean body mass. I personally feel that you can't reach your micro nutrient goals very well unless you're hitting at least 100g of carbs through mainly fruits and veggies (that's an opinion, I know there are a lot of Keto fans out there - I'm not one of them).

but once you know how much protein you need, and how many carbs your body feels good on and needs to hit nutrient levels, the rest can absolutely be taken up by fat if you so desire. It will NOT cause you any harm, as long as you avoid trans fats and stick to as many good fats as possible (coconut, avocado, olive, animal fats, etc)

so even in a deficit, you can have a "high fat" diet and see incredible results, and do so in a healthy way.

The problem wit Adkins was people take it to an extreme and do NO carb diets and thus are missing out on huge chunks of micronutrients the body needs to function.

I routinely eat over 80 grams of fat per day, and my blood work is superb. I have been a vegetarian since birth, and have always had a very high fat diet without any problems (until a recent sports injury caused me to gain weight). I get all of my fats from nuts, seeds, avacados, healthy oils. I would never tell someone eating the standard american diet to try for 80 grams of fat per day, because I'm pretty sure they wouldn't do it by loading up on chia seeds and raw almonds.

@TimeForMe99

I want to clarify that I'm not sure 70% fat is a good idea either, because it's extremely unlikely you're meeting your micronutrient requirements.