If I eat breakfast, I get hungry
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I had a Doctor tell me if you aren't hungry don't eat...
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You're hungry because eating more often during the day raises your metabolism. That's why most diet plans have you eat more frequent but smaller meals. Just spread your calories out over 5 or 6 meals a day. Eat more protein and fiber as well to keep you gull longer.
This has been largely debunked. Feel free to skip the breakfast if it works for you, as many people have mentioned, Intermittent Fasting is become very popular and there are a few studies supporting it's benefits.0 -
The reason is it gets your metabolism revved up. The worst thing you can do is skip breakfast. Key to losing is keeping your metabolism going! Plan a snack between breakfast and lunch to help with it. Starving yourself or skipping meals wont help you lose weight...it does the opposite.You're hungry because eating more often during the day raises your metabolism. That's why most diet plans have you eat more frequent but smaller meals. Just spread your calories out over 5 or 6 meals a day. Eat more protein and fiber as well to keep you gull longer.
These are both completely, totally inaccurate.
I haven't eaten breakfast in a year (excepting some weekends where I make it for my kids...who can resist french toast, bacon, and eggs?)...because very simply, if I do...I want food all day.
Like...bad lol.
That whole crap about your metabolism being sped up by multiple meals is absolute garbage. If you don't eat for 24hrs, it's been PROVEN in multiple studies that your metabolism actually SPEEDS up. Your body begins producing beneficial things like growth hormone and adrenaline as well...that tell your body to oxidize fat. That metabolic increase (and the hormonal response) slowly falls off, and then actually begins to decrease from the initial levels after SEVENTY-TWO whole hours. This doesn't mean you shouldn't eat for 72hrs...but it certainly means that you don't have to eat 6 meals a day to 'keep your metabolism' revved up.
So...skip breakfast if it works for you...you certainly don't have to feel guilty about it as long as you're still getting in all of your healthy calories for the day.
A little manners goes a long way. I'm not going to say that's "crap" when I say I've read more studies that support the first two claims than the study you're referencing. And science is weight of evidence.
I'm sorry that you're unable to pick up on what 'manners' I actually possess over the internet.
As to the part of your post that is actually on topic, I didn't reference ONE study, I referenced at least four, with dozens more referenced on the website I linked.
I've yet to see you reference ONE study that proves that metabolism is increased by eating (TEF doesn't count...as it's so minimal as to be irrelevant).0 -
Bump.
I'm waiting for a reply to all of the information I gave in my above post.
Hey man, I'm giving you a free bump, and I also wanted to say that I am VERY interested in your information. I have always been a 6-7 small meals kind of girl, but recently I have found that my entire life has begun to revolve around food--from the moment I wake up....if I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about food, cooking food, buying food, planning food logs, etc, etc. Honestly, even though I'm getting good results, I'm feeling incredibly burnt out and I'm just SO DAMN HUNGRY all the time. I eat around 2000 cals and get 150+ gms of protein on average, so I'm eating plenty of food....that just can't be the problem. I don't think it's healthy for me to be planning my entire day around when I need to eat. It's becoming a quality of life issue for me. I have 2 small children, and I have a lot of other things I need to think about....but guess what I end up thinking about anyway?? You guessed it!!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but that's the main reason I'm suddenly interested in IF....I really like things simple, and even though I've tried to keep it simple, I'm obviously failing.
So I'm going to do some more research and check into the group you mentioned previously. I'm a little bit concerned that I'll have trouble with energy during my morning workouts if I'm fasting, but honestly I'm not sure how much longer I can continue doing this otherwise.
I think you'll like leangains. It just takes the focus of "what am I eating next" and put food in a very manageble place in your life. It eat 2x per day. Maybe a mid afternoon snack of nuts or something but it's just not my focus. And believe me, I love to eat!! You have made amazing progress over the last few month. We tend to post on many similar threads so I've followed your story for a couple of months. Great job!! You are doing awesome!! I tend not to struggle with morning workouts as I still have plenty left from a dinner. I tend to eat late and have a protein shake not long before bedtime. It really hasn't been an issue. I eat last at around 6 or 7 and don't eat again til 12 on non workout days and a protein shake after a workout morning then nothing else til noon.0 -
Listen to your body, and do what works best for you. Everyone is different. You will know what to do if you're truly in tune with your body.
^^^^^^^^ THIS!!
Everybody is different and you have to experiment until you find what works best for you to stay within your calorie budget (that's really all that matters). For me, if I skip a meal I'm ravenous at the next meal and will totally lose control and give in to the slightest temptation (which is a daily occurrence in my office). I've recently discovered that "power spacing" my meals really works and keeps me satisfied all day long. I eat about six 200-300 calorie meals spaced every couple of hours and it keeps me from going overboard, keeps my energy level consistent and I'm totally satisfied. Figure out what's best for your body and as long as you're eating at a defecit you're golden!0 -
And science is weight of evidence.
Agreed! So when do you intend to post something other than your opinion without a basis for it? Chris has posted a bunch. What you got??0 -
Bump.
I'm waiting for a reply to all of the information I gave in my above post.
Hey man, I'm giving you a free bump, and I also wanted to say that I am VERY interested in your information. I have always been a 6-7 small meals kind of girl, but recently I have found that my entire life has begun to revolve around food--from the moment I wake up....if I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about food, cooking food, buying food, planning food logs, etc, etc. Honestly, even though I'm getting good results, I'm feeling incredibly burnt out and I'm just SO DAMN HUNGRY all the time. I eat around 2000 cals and get 150+ gms of protein on average, so I'm eating plenty of food....that just can't be the problem. I don't think it's healthy for me to be planning my entire day around when I need to eat. It's becoming a quality of life issue for me. I have 2 small children, and I have a lot of other things I need to think about....but guess what I end up thinking about anyway?? You guessed it!!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but that's the main reason I'm suddenly interested in IF....I really like things simple, and even though I've tried to keep it simple, I'm obviously failing.
So I'm going to do some more research and check into the group you mentioned previously. I'm a little bit concerned that I'll have trouble with energy during my morning workouts if I'm fasting, but honestly I'm not sure how much longer I can continue doing this otherwise.
I think you'll like leangains. It just takes the focus of "what am I eating next" and put food in a very manageble place in your life. It eat 2x per day. Maybe a mid afternoon snack of nuts or something but it's just not my focus. And believe me, I love to eat!! You have made amazing progress over the last few month. We tend to post on many similar threads so I've followed your story for a couple of months. Great job!! You are doing awesome!! I tend not to struggle with morning workouts as I still have plenty left from a dinner. I tend to eat late and have a protein shake not long before bedtime. It really hasn't been an issue. I eat last at around 6 or 7 and don't eat again til 12 on non workout days and a protein shake after a workout morning then nothing else til noon.
Thanks-- I'm researching Leangains right now. For my sanity's sake, I think I need to make some changes. This is all such a learning/changing/growing process.0 -
THIS!! i had the same problem. i was told the breakfast stuff is a myth and as long as i dont skip breakfast and pig out at lunch.. there is no problem. a lot of people apparently skip it and get really hungry and eat WAY more at lunch than they would with breakfast/lunch combined otherwise. but some of us arent big breakfast people. i eat if im hungry. i dont rush into it though if im not. :-)skipping breakfast is fine, the metabolism stuff is a myth0 -
Bump.
I'm waiting for a reply to all of the information I gave in my above post.
Hey man, I'm giving you a free bump, and I also wanted to say that I am VERY interested in your information. I have always been a 6-7 small meals kind of girl, but recently I have found that my entire life has begun to revolve around food--from the moment I wake up....if I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about food, cooking food, buying food, planning food logs, etc, etc. Honestly, even though I'm getting good results, I'm feeling incredibly burnt out and I'm just SO DAMN HUNGRY all the time. I eat around 2000 cals and get 150+ gms of protein on average, so I'm eating plenty of food....that just can't be the problem. I don't think it's healthy for me to be planning my entire day around when I need to eat. It's becoming a quality of life issue for me. I have 2 small children, and I have a lot of other things I need to think about....but guess what I end up thinking about anyway?? You guessed it!!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but that's the main reason I'm suddenly interested in IF....I really like things simple, and even though I've tried to keep it simple, I'm obviously failing.
So I'm going to do some more research and check into the group you mentioned previously. I'm a little bit concerned that I'll have trouble with energy during my morning workouts if I'm fasting, but honestly I'm not sure how much longer I can continue doing this otherwise.
I think you'll like leangains. It just takes the focus of "what am I eating next" and put food in a very manageble place in your life. It eat 2x per day. Maybe a mid afternoon snack of nuts or something but it's just not my focus. And believe me, I love to eat!! You have made amazing progress over the last few month. We tend to post on many similar threads so I've followed your story for a couple of months. Great job!! You are doing awesome!! I tend not to struggle with morning workouts as I still have plenty left from a dinner. I tend to eat late and have a protein shake not long before bedtime. It really hasn't been an issue. I eat last at around 6 or 7 and don't eat again til 12 on non workout days and a protein shake after a workout morning then nothing else til noon.
Thanks-- I'm researching Leangains right now. For my sanity's sake, I think I need to make some changes. This is all such a learning/changing/growing process.
For sure!
As I mentioned above (not sure if you saw), if you send me your email, I'll send you a first print copy of ESE. It goes into a LOT more detail about IF itself, and why it works.0 -
You will love it based on what you have stated about being able to manage meals. It really has changed my life. Plus I have a nice 23 lbs loss with minimal LBM loss to show for it. I will say that I lift heavy though so I can't give diet full credit. But clearly my metabolism has not suffered.Bump.
I'm waiting for a reply to all of the information I gave in my above post.
Hey man, I'm giving you a free bump, and I also wanted to say that I am VERY interested in your information. I have always been a 6-7 small meals kind of girl, but recently I have found that my entire life has begun to revolve around food--from the moment I wake up....if I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about food, cooking food, buying food, planning food logs, etc, etc. Honestly, even though I'm getting good results, I'm feeling incredibly burnt out and I'm just SO DAMN HUNGRY all the time. I eat around 2000 cals and get 150+ gms of protein on average, so I'm eating plenty of food....that just can't be the problem. I don't think it's healthy for me to be planning my entire day around when I need to eat. It's becoming a quality of life issue for me. I have 2 small children, and I have a lot of other things I need to think about....but guess what I end up thinking about anyway?? You guessed it!!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but that's the main reason I'm suddenly interested in IF....I really like things simple, and even though I've tried to keep it simple, I'm obviously failing.
So I'm going to do some more research and check into the group you mentioned previously. I'm a little bit concerned that I'll have trouble with energy during my morning workouts if I'm fasting, but honestly I'm not sure how much longer I can continue doing this otherwise.
I think you'll like leangains. It just takes the focus of "what am I eating next" and put food in a very manageble place in your life. It eat 2x per day. Maybe a mid afternoon snack of nuts or something but it's just not my focus. And believe me, I love to eat!! You have made amazing progress over the last few month. We tend to post on many similar threads so I've followed your story for a couple of months. Great job!! You are doing awesome!! I tend not to struggle with morning workouts as I still have plenty left from a dinner. I tend to eat late and have a protein shake not long before bedtime. It really hasn't been an issue. I eat last at around 6 or 7 and don't eat again til 12 on non workout days and a protein shake after a workout morning then nothing else til noon.
Thanks-- I'm researching Leangains right now. For my sanity's sake, I think I need to make some changes. This is all such a learning/changing/growing process.0 -
The reason is it gets your metabolism revved up. The worst thing you can do is skip breakfast. Key to losing is keeping your metabolism going! Plan a snack between breakfast and lunch to help with it. Starving yourself or skipping meals wont help you lose weight...it does the opposite.
So going 12-13 hours without eating screws up your metabolism?0 -
The reason is it gets your metabolism revved up. The worst thing you can do is skip breakfast. Key to losing is keeping your metabolism going! Plan a snack between breakfast and lunch to help with it. Starving yourself or skipping meals wont help you lose weight...it does the opposite.
So going 12-13 hours without eating screws up your metabolism?
Apparently this is their belief. I mean, four specific studies referenced, and dozens more referenced from another website...clearly mean nothing in comparison to their anecdotal evidence.
Oh, and the one ladies 'multiple studies' that she's read that prove otherwise.0 -
bumping this is a great topic which I also struggle with but min happens right after I eat lunch I find myself eating my snack a n hour or so after my lunch.0
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bumping this is a great topic which I also struggle with but min happens right after I eat lunch I find myself eating my snack a n hour or so after my lunch.
I rarely eat until around 1pm, and rarely eat past 8 or 9pm. 1-2 meals, and whatever I want to snack on...and staying within my calorie limit is still relatively easy.0 -
I am a Doctor - An internist. Lets dismiss all these answers as mostly they are all miscorrect. First, you should not skip breakfast even if your not hungry. have a piece of toast or even a glass of milk, some sort of energy.The reason most people are not hungry is they have been fasting for at least 10 hrs. Hence Break / Fast. The body goes into a mode thinking it is starving, so it stores the calories it has and turns off the your brains hunger mode. This is done by the brain receiving the additional hormone Serotonin, this stops the hunger phase. When food is introduce into your system, metabolism plays no role in your body's function as far as food is concern. Food starts your body to break down the food and release sugar into your system, when this occurrs, your body starts to feel no hungry and energy is coming intoplay. Caffeine has no role with the brain giving you hunger or energy-ridiculous! Caffeine actuall stimulate your pancreas. The pancreas in turn delivers stored sugar-reserved- into your bloodstream to give you immediate energy and take away any hunger the body is asking your for. Caffien does not created energy, it gives the body the signal to push out from the pancreas the stored in it which converts to energy. When the body is energetic it is NOT hungry. However the moment your sugar level starts to decrease, you start to feel hungry - which is a couple hours afterwards. If no caffeine is taken in, the body wants food to create energy. later in the day yoour body will use your lunch for 5 - 6 hrs to carry you through the day, converting it into sugar. Any unused sugar is stored again the pancrease. Metabolism regulates body heat, regulates how much energy your body needs to run perfectly and repair itself each day. Metabolism is a trigger center or the supervisor of the body. It only sends mesages pout, that the body sends into it. It in turns advises the "department" for which is needed to make the body operate properly. That is why people say "To start your metabolism". It has nothing to do with weight control or many other functions people think it controls. Breakfast creates sugar which awakens th epancreas with its orders. basically telling the pancreas, "Hold your Sugar, I have some fresher product here to get the day going"! Metabolism is just creating hormones to singal the various body parts what is needed to be done to create a healthy, energized body.0
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I am a Doctor - An internist. Lets dismiss all these answers as mostly they are all miscorrect. First, you should not skip breakfast even if your not hungry. have a piece of toast or even a glass of milk, some sort of energy.The reason most people are not hungry is they have been fasting for at least 10 hrs. Hence Break / Fast. The body goes into a mode thinking it is starving, so it stores the calories it has and turns off the your brains hunger mode. This is done by the brain receiving the additional hormone Serotonin, this stops the hunger phase. When food is introduce into your system, metabolism plays no role in your body's function as far as food is concern. Food starts your body to break down the food and release sugar into your system, when this occurrs, your body starts to feel no hungry and energy is coming intoplay. Caffeine has no role with the brain giving you hunger or energy-ridiculous! Caffeine actuall stimulate your pancreas. The pancreas in turn delivers stored sugar-reserved- into your bloodstream to give you immediate energy and take away any hunger the body is asking your for. Caffien does not created energy, it gives the body the signal to push out from the pancreas the stored in it which converts to energy. When the body is energetic it is NOT hungry. However the moment your sugar level starts to decrease, you start to feel hungry - which is a couple hours afterwards. If no caffeine is taken in, the body wants food to create energy. later in the day yoour body will use your lunch for 5 - 6 hrs to carry you through the day, converting it into sugar. Any unused sugar is stored again the pancrease. Metabolism regulates body heat, regulates how much energy your body needs to run perfectly and repair itself each day. Metabolism is a trigger center or the supervisor of the body. It only sends mesages pout, that the body sends into it. It in turns advises the "department" for which is needed to make the body operate properly. That is why people say "To start your metabolism". It has nothing to do with weight control or many other functions people think it controls. Breakfast creates sugar which awakens th epancreas with its orders. basically telling the pancreas, "Hold your Sugar, I have some fresher product here to get the day going"! Metabolism is just creating hormones to singal the various body parts what is needed to be done to create a healthy, energized body.
What? Stellar first post, "doctor". Always nice to have new members come in and start with "All these answers are wrong." You didn't take a stand, just stated a bunch of unrelated stuff about metabolism or about sugar/pancreas or serotonin. How does this play into the "I don't like to eat breakfast" statement?
Your wall of text with no structure and no subject is not adding to this discussion at all. You haven't addressed anything more than some basic body functions, from what I can gather.
Oh, and there are other doctors here. Welcome. :flowerforyou:
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If I eat breads and cereals for breakfast (toast, bagels, waffles, etc) I am hungry all day. But if I eat protein and fruit I am full and energized.0
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I'm the same and so is my dad. I think it's because when you start eating breakfast, after never doing it before, you're metabolism goes up which makes you hungrier earlier. I find it hard to eat when I've just woken up, I have to give it at least an hour or two or I feel sick. Now I'm starting to prepare my breakfast which gives me some time to wake up and get my appetite going.0
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To be honest I stopped reading after all the spelling and grammatical errors. It's not the mistakes, it's the general lack of trying to type properly that turns me off, especially on such a large wall of text.0
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I'm the same and so is my dad. I think it's because when you start eating breakfast, after never doing it before, you're metabolism goes up which makes you hungrier earlier. I find it hard to eat when I've just woken up, I have to give it at least an hour or two or I feel sick. Now I'm starting to prepare my breakfast which gives me some time to wake up and get my appetite going.
I'm sorry but this is completely untrue. Ten jumping jacks has more effect on your metabolism than any meal does.0 -
I'm the same and so is my dad. I think it's because when you start eating breakfast, after never doing it before, you're metabolism goes up which makes you hungrier earlier. I find it hard to eat when I've just woken up, I have to give it at least an hour or two or I feel sick. Now I'm starting to prepare my breakfast which gives me some time to wake up and get my appetite going.
I'm sorry but this is completely untrue. Ten jumping jacks has more effect on your metabolism than any meal does.
^^True. It's does nothing to get your metabolism going. All it does is introduce food after a fast and start the satiety/hunger cycle causing the interaction of insulin, leptin and gherlin. For some, this results in better satiety and more dietary control. for others, me included, it just causes me to want to eat more over the course of the day much like the OP.0 -
I am the same way. No matter what I eat for breakfast, I am starving all day. Today, I am just drinking coffee with milk and will eat my lunch around 11:00 am. Everyone is different and therefore our bodies react to things differently. I am usually never hungry in the morning and I eat breakfast just because that's the norm. I am now learning to listen to my body and eat when I am hungry...Good luck!0
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I'm a time lord!You should eat in the morning to replace the materials lost durning night time regeneration.0 -
I am a huge breakfast person but I don't think you are doing anything wrong by doing what works for YOU!
If I eat mini meals/snacks all day long (which I understand is not what you do, but just an example)... I never feel satisfied! I could eat probably 2,500 calories of mini meals and still feel like "where is dinner??" but I am satisfied on 1,400 calories when I eat 3 meals.
Everyone's different!0 -
Every book I have on nutrition...that is written by experts...doctors...nutritionists ...all strongly urge us to eat breakfast. It is a fact that it gets our metabolism to start burning in the morning...its like a fire...unless we keep putting a log in the fire...it will die out...even if you have a light breakfast...a smoothie...eat every two to three hrs...small snacks or meals...keep putting the log in the fire...to go four or five hrs between eating is tooooo long....breakfast...means...BREAK THE FAST. :happy:0
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Well, it's an old topic but since it got bumped...breakfast makes me both ravenous and nauseous. Lately I've been eating half a cup to a cup of full fat plain yogurt (it's the only thing that doesn't make me utterly sick) but I'm sure that won't last. I've always felt this way. I quit eating breakfast a good 20 years ago in middle school. I've heard the metabolism lies and tried my hand at breakfast and it didn't work. It just makes me hungry, I eat a morning snack, big lunch, afternoon snack and full dinner. Seriously, breakfast adds 1000 calories to my day.
The entire breakfast myth annoys me. Our bodies are evolved for stages of feast and fast. Our ancestors were hunter gatherers. they never knew when their next meal was coming and their bodies were able to make good use of food when they had it and function at a high level without it. If breakfast and six other meals were critical our ancestors would have died out 100,000 years ago.0 -
You've been snafued then. Here's the truth:Every book I have on nutrition...that is written by experts...doctors...nutritionists ...all strongly urge us to eat breakfast. It is a fact that it gets our metabolism to start burning in the morning...its like a fire...unless we keep putting a log in the fire...it will die out...even if you have a light breakfast...a smoothie...eat every two to three hrs...small snacks or meals...keep putting the log in the fire...to go four or five hrs between eating is tooooo long....breakfast...means...BREAK THE FAST. :happy:
Metabolism NEVER stops until you're dead. Why does one weigh less upon waking up? It certainly wasn't due to a stopped metabolism.
It is NOT a fact that breakfast "starts" a metabolism in the morning. A person who is alive in the morning already has metabolism going. Breakfast can give one more "energy" to do things, but it doesn't "jumpstart" metabolism.
Try reading actual peer reviewed clinical research instead of books by "experts" who just want to sell you their ideas and programs.
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Every book I have on nutrition...that is written by experts...doctors...nutritionists ...all strongly urge us to eat breakfast. It is a fact that it gets our metabolism to start burning in the morning...its like a fire...unless we keep putting a log in the fire...it will die out...even if you have a light breakfast...a smoothie...eat every two to three hrs...small snacks or meals...keep putting the log in the fire...to go four or five hrs between eating is tooooo long....breakfast...means...BREAK THE FAST. :happy:
Your argument is invalid cause..science.0 -
I only eat if I'm hungry which I usually am... but I find that eating protein with some fat will keep me full a very long time.
Veggies & eggs with cheese or bacon
Protein shake with coconut oil or ground flax
Left over chicken or steak & avocado
I agree!!!0 -
You can skip breakfast. it doesn't really matter.
However I do want to say that I had the same thing. Breakfast made me hungry all day, but that was because I was eating a ton of carbs for breakfast... Bagels, muffins, bread. I eat yogurt and fruit for breakfast and it doesn't cause my appetite to go out of control anymore.
So true!! Certain carbs make me feel famished for the rest of the day.0
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