For the love of god women EAT!!!
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You know, it would depend on your weight. I can imagine that my 5' 0" friend probably doesn't need more than 1,200 calories a day to maintain. On the other hand, there probably is something to the "I can't get enough calories if I avoid junk food" thing too. I have never had a problem eating enough healthy calories, but I was raised vegetarian, and I used to eat huge amounts of food as a teenager (and in spite of little to know exercise, I never weighed too much).
But the original post reminds me of something that happened a few years ago. I was in Peru with a group of about 70% Koreans (I'm not Korean, btw). We were doing medical missionary work in a poor village. As we rode in on the bus, the kids would point to the Koreans and yell "Mira [look]! Chinos! Chinos!" One of the Koreans (a teenager) grumbled, "If they say 'chino' one more time..." I told him to get over i
I think the same thing applies here. We are all on a learning adventure. We have different things to learn. I know a lot about healthy eating, but I have plenty of other things to learn, and I don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about healthy eating by a long shot. Let's give other people room to grow too.0 -
I have 10kg to lose and I was very surprised when MFP set my daily goal to 1200 cals a day. MFP should explain that these daily goals include calories burnt through exercise and that people shouldn't only be eating 1200 calories a day. Does that sound right?0
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No when you first sign up its (for females don't know about males) automatically puts your calories at 1200. I thin she means that she just though that was correct for her until she saw on the posts that she wasn't eating enough TDEE etc etc
Not true! It generally gives you 1200 if you set your loss to 2lbs, or if you don't have a significant amount to lose and set yourself to sedentary.
Yeah... If I changed my goal to lose 10 pounds, sedentary, workout 6 times a week for 40 min/day, it would tell me to consume 1200 calories/day.
I mean.... I personally don't do this. I changed mine to 1500 and I eat back my exercise cals. But if this site is supposed to work the way it's set up... Then why. Why, I ask!0 -
I only have that problem on days like today were I do lots of execise that eating my net calories is difficult, but it's always good to have some in reserve for rest day I think anyway :happy:0
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It is not surprising that many people who come to this site to lose weight don't know anything about moderation.0
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Hear Hear. I didn't get to this weight by struggling to eat. I agree that 1200 is likely only going to lead to binge eating. It is over-controlled eating. I am here not to lose weight but to change my patterns and practices concerning eating and moving around, which, ultimately, will result in a natural weight loss. I am allowed 2000 calories per day. Sometimes I come in under, right at, and sometimes I go over it. That sounds like real life to me. The important thing is that I keep plodding on, flubs and all. After all, a caloric deficit over the long haul is the goal. It doesn't matter if, from time-to-time, I go over my limit. It's my mental attitude that is most important, the ability to avoid the, "why try," attitude. There is always a reason to try. Always.0
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Just as annoying as all the 5'2 and under threads and no one feels they are able to eat more than 1200 just bc they are short.
Maybe those women aren't planning to train the way that you do. Just a thought.
Do you even know how much I train? No.
I do know that many put themselves at sedentary to which 95% of the time they are not. Also many feel they need to lose fast instead of having patience.0 -
When I first started MFP, I used the default 1200 cals/day. I got a perverse sense of accomplishment and superiority in limiting my breakfast to an english muffin and 2 wedges of Laughing Cow cheese (190 cals); Lunch was a salad with tuna (380 cals) and dinner was chicken or fish with steamed veggies and more salad (500-600 cals) with a snack of a piece of fruit to bring me to 1200 cals/day.
Then I read IPOARM. And upped my cals to 1800/day (TDEE-25%). Now breakfast is 1 cup of cottage cheese (full fat), 1/2 cup fruit, 1/4 almonds and coffee with real sugar and whole milk (520 cals). If I have a 600 calorie lunch, I don't panic. Dinner is anything from pot roast with carrots & potatoes to chicken fried steak and mashed potatoes or an occasional pizza or hamburger. Food is good and I enjoy eating. And with at least 1hr of exercise daily (and don't eat back my cals) I'm losing at least 1 lb/wk.
OK, no offense intended but as you reach a lower weight, you will have to dial back on the calories. That's just a fact.
So many people here make the mistake of thinking everyone else here is exactly like them. We all don't exercise the same amount and intensity, we all don't have the same amount to lose, we are all different ages, different genders. What do people not understand about that????0 -
You do what works for you and I will do what has been working for me. 150 days, 47.2 pounds, BMI down 6.2 percent. You're life is different then my life. Do you have a gall bladder, do you have thyroid issues, or do you have my life? I limit myself to 80 carbs, less then 32 fat, and try to get in as much protein as I can. If it comes to more then 1200 then great if it doesn't then so be it. The doctor told me I was doing great and she knows EXACTLY what I'm doing. Why beat people down because that's your opinion. Just wish people well and hope the best for them. Making them self conscience and second guessing themselves DOESN'T HELP ANYONE!!!!0
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Doesn't help when MFP tells people to eat too little. People come here usually when they don't really know where to start, and they do what the site says. I set my MFP stats to maintain and set it to very active (I'm moderate but don't record exercise calories) and it gives me 2200 or so, which I set myself anyway to maintain my weight. If I put in everything correctly, MFP would have me on some stupid low protein, low sugar, too-low calorie plan.0
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I love food. I have a hard time staying under 2000 calories a day if I'm not careful. I tried the 1200 calorie thing for a couple days and found myself in the fridge at 11 pm eating everything that rhymed with cheese.
you binged on peas?
that's weird.
Hey, I like peas. And they're fairly high calorie too. Never thought about eating them with cheese though...but given what cheese does to broccoli, perhaps it can have a similarly awesome effect on peas. Will try. (Might even add a little bacon grease.)0 -
Not trying to be insensitive here.... Just trying to understand.
The people who eat 1200 a day do so because this site tells them to eat 1200 a day. What am I missing here? Why would MFP provide that kind of number if it is so ridiculous? So the system is broken?
No when you first sign up its (for females don't know about males) automatically puts your calories at 1200. I thin she means that she just though that was correct for her until she saw on the posts that she wasn't eating enough TDEE etc etc
No, it doesn't. It only does that if a. your activity levels are sedentary or b. your select "Lose 2lb a week". The setting is based on what you say your goals are and is based on mathematical equations rather than a "one size fits all" approach.0 -
Even on days where I eat only whole food, I get to 1200 with NO problem. It really isn't hard. Just think, three 300 calorie meals, and three 100 calorie snack. If you are drinking anything other than water it should be very easy.0
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No when you first sign up its (for females don't know about males) automatically puts your calories at 1200. I thin she means that she just though that was correct for her until she saw on the posts that she wasn't eating enough TDEE etc etc
Not true! It generally gives you 1200 if you set your loss to 2lbs, or if you don't have a significant amount to lose and set yourself to sedentary.
Yeah... If I changed my goal to lose 10 pounds, sedentary, workout 6 times a week for 40 min/day, it would tell me to consume 1200 calories/day.
I mean.... I personally don't do this. I changed mine to 1500 and I eat back my exercise cals. But if this site is supposed to work the way it's set up... Then why. Why, I ask!
Because most people don't realise that you are supposed to eat exercise calories back and NET the calorie goal0 -
No when you first sign up its (for females don't know about males) automatically puts your calories at 1200. I thin she means that she just though that was correct for her until she saw on the posts that she wasn't eating enough TDEE etc etc
Not true! It generally gives you 1200 if you set your loss to 2lbs, or if you don't have a significant amount to lose and set yourself to sedentary.
Yeah... If I changed my goal to lose 10 pounds, sedentary, workout 6 times a week for 40 min/day, it would tell me to consume 1200 calories/day.
I mean.... I personally don't do this. I changed mine to 1500 and I eat back my exercise cals. But if this site is supposed to work the way it's set up... Then why. Why, I ask!
it doesn't sanity check the calorie results based on CW and GW. they could incorporate that into the equations, but they haven't for unspecified reasons.0 -
They complain about 1200 calories a day. I wonder how would it be if they had to eat 2600 to 2800 calories a day :bigsmile:0
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When I first started MFP, I used the default 1200 cals/day. I got a perverse sense of accomplishment and superiority in limiting my breakfast to an english muffin and 2 wedges of Laughing Cow cheese (190 cals); Lunch was a salad with tuna (380 cals) and dinner was chicken or fish with steamed veggies and more salad (500-600 cals) with a snack of a piece of fruit to bring me to 1200 cals/day.
Then I read IPOARM. And upped my cals to 1800/day (TDEE-25%). Now breakfast is 1 cup of cottage cheese (full fat), 1/2 cup fruit, 1/4 almonds and coffee with real sugar and whole milk (520 cals). If I have a 600 calorie lunch, I don't panic. Dinner is anything from pot roast with carrots & potatoes to chicken fried steak and mashed potatoes or an occasional pizza or hamburger. Food is good and I enjoy eating. And with at least 1hr of exercise daily (and don't eat back my cals) I'm losing at least 1 lb/wk.
OK, no offense intended but as you reach a lower weight, you will have to dial back on the calories. That's just a fact.
So many people here make the mistake of thinking everyone else here is exactly like them. We all don't exercise the same amount and intensity, we all don't have the same amount to lose, we are all different ages, different genders. What do people not understand about that????
No offense taken. I re-evaluate my TDEE with every 10lb loss and change my caloric requirements. Regarding the many variables to individual weight loss, IPOARM takes that into account by assessing age, height, current weight, goal weight and activity levels.0 -
Just as annoying as all the 5'2 and under threads and no one feels they are able to eat more than 1200 just bc they are short.
Maybe those women aren't planning to train the way that you do. Just a thought.
Do you even know how much I train? No.
I do know that many put themselves at sedentary to which 95% of the time they are not. Also many feel they need to lose fast instead of having patience.
I read your profile, so, taking you at your word, I know that you train more than most women do. A lot of people ARE sedentary.0 -
When I first started MFP, I used the default 1200 cals/day. I got a perverse sense of accomplishment and superiority in limiting my breakfast to an english muffin and 2 wedges of Laughing Cow cheese (190 cals); Lunch was a salad with tuna (380 cals) and dinner was chicken or fish with steamed veggies and more salad (500-600 cals) with a snack of a piece of fruit to bring me to 1200 cals/day.
Then I read IPOARM. And upped my cals to 1800/day (TDEE-25%). Now breakfast is 1 cup of cottage cheese (full fat), 1/2 cup fruit, 1/4 almonds and coffee with real sugar and whole milk (520 cals). If I have a 600 calorie lunch, I don't panic. Dinner is anything from pot roast with carrots & potatoes to chicken fried steak and mashed potatoes or an occasional pizza or hamburger. Food is good and I enjoy eating. And with at least 1hr of exercise daily (and don't eat back my cals) I'm losing at least 1 lb/wk.
OK, no offense intended but as you reach a lower weight, you will have to dial back on the calories. That's just a fact.
Not necessarily. I'm losing weight and my BMR is going down relatively slowly thanks to the fact that I'm doing strength training (and therefore losing minimal muscle mass) whilst my TDEE is actually going UP.
I was injured and on crutches for a month and my cardio exercise was reduced dramatically (although strength training continued almost unabated). I was still eating 1900+ calories a day and losing over 1lb a week, which is eating more and losing more than I was at almost 30lb heavier.0 -
They complain about 1200 calories a day. I wonder how would it be if they had to eat 2600 to 2800 calories a day :bigsmile:
I hate to think about my grocery bills once I start bulking!0 -
I generally have already eaten 1200 calories by noon. I figure most people who say they struggle to reach 1200 are struggling because they have eliminated thousands of foods from their diet entirely and labeled them "bad."
When I joined this website, my intention was to find a way to eat what I wanted and eliminate nothing, basically. Portion sizes are another story obviously, but I'm cool with eating 1/4 cup of real ice cream rather than a vat of something low-calorie and sweetened with aspartame to satisfy my sweet tooth.0 -
You know, it would depend on your weight. I can imagine that my 5' 0" friend probably doesn't need more than 1,200 calories a day to maintain. On the other hand, there probably is something to the "I can't get enough calories if I avoid junk food" thing too. I have never had a problem eating enough healthy calories, but I was raised vegetarian, and I used to eat huge amounts of food as a teenager (and in spite of little to know exercise, I never weighed too much).
But the original post reminds me of something that happened a few years ago. I was in Peru with a group of about 70% Koreans (I'm not Korean, btw). We were doing medical missionary work in a poor village. As we rode in on the bus, the kids would point to the Koreans and yell "Mira [look]! Chinos! Chinos!" One of the Koreans (a teenager) grumbled, "If they say 'chino' one more time..." I told him to get over i
I think the same thing applies here. We are all on a learning adventure. We have different things to learn. I know a lot about healthy eating, but I have plenty of other things to learn, and I don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about healthy eating by a long shot. Let's give other people room to grow too.
Threads like this one...(even though many will misinterpret them as "mean" and "insensitive")...can be a crucial part of that "learning adventure". I know that a lot of my friends here credit forum "debates/arguments" for opening their eyes to important revelations. If everyone here misapplied Thumper's father's advice (and said nothing at all), many may never have progressed (or would have done so much later).0 -
Hey, I like peas. And they're fairly high calorie too. Never thought about eating them with cheese though...but given what cheese does to broccoli, perhaps it can have a similarly awesome effect on peas. Will try. (Might even add a little bacon grease.)
I once had a pea salad with bits of cubed cheese and mayo. It as delicious. Probably not the healthiest food, but peas are healthier than pasta, so not the worst food in the world either. I'm not sure what else it had--it was kind of along the lines of a pasta salad minus the pasta.0 -
You know, it would depend on your weight. I can imagine that my 5' 0" friend probably doesn't need more than 1,200 calories a day to maintain. On the other hand, there probably is something to the "I can't get enough calories if I avoid junk food" thing too. I have never had a problem eating enough healthy calories, but I was raised vegetarian, and I used to eat huge amounts of food as a teenager (and in spite of little to know exercise, I never weighed too much).
But the original post reminds me of something that happened a few years ago. I was in Peru with a group of about 70% Koreans (I'm not Korean, btw). We were doing medical missionary work in a poor village. As we rode in on the bus, the kids would point to the Koreans and yell "Mira [look]! Chinos! Chinos!" One of the Koreans (a teenager) grumbled, "If they say 'chino' one more time..." I told him to get over i
I think the same thing applies here. We are all on a learning adventure. We have different things to learn. I know a lot about healthy eating, but I have plenty of other things to learn, and I don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about healthy eating by a long shot. Let's give other people room to grow too.
Threads like this one...(even though many will misinterpret them as "mean" and "insensitive")...can be a crucial part of that "learning adventure". I know that a lot of my friends here credit forum "debates/arguments" for opening their eyes to important revelations. If everyone here misapplied Thumper's father's advice (and said nothing at all), many may never have progressed (or would have done so much later).
This isn't mean't to be mean and insensitive... granted it does sound it.0 -
Forgoodness sake, if I hear one more person say they cannot eat above 1200 cals I may scream.
My GF is the same. Logging with a different sight and claims she "cannot" get above 1200 calories... well you didn't have that problem before!!!
Just eat. Why is it so hard? Genuine question. I have no problems getting to 1600 calories in oneday, nay I could do it in one sitting if I let myself.
grumble grumble grumble... and Happy face
I am kind.
I think there is a difference between what I am talking about and someone with anorexia which this post is NOT aimed at.
Apologies to anyone with anorexia.
I didn't think you were being unkind.0 -
Its a physiological thing. When you eat at 1200, your body dials back your metabolism and burns muscle (that pesky tissue that requires so many calories to maintain) in order to survive at 1200. So the appetite gets dialed back too. If you eat at 1200 long enough, you honestly won't get hungry for more than that. If you try to eat more, say have breakfast of 600 calories, your body thinks you've gotten half your calories for the day so you won't get hungry again until dinner.
Goes to show why you have to follow your mind out of that mess, not your body.
Huh. A few years back I saw studies showing calorie restriction -induced metabolic changes resulted in increased hunger for high fat/ high calorie food.
An overexpression of ΔFosB, signaling a NAc mediated adaptive response to calorie restriction, resulting in over-eating and "binging".
Oh well, it's been a few years so there might be new research showing a different response. 0 -
No when you first sign up its (for females don't know about males) automatically puts your calories at 1200. I thin she means that she just though that was correct for her until she saw on the posts that she wasn't eating enough TDEE etc etc
Not true! It generally gives you 1200 if you set your loss to 2lbs, or if you don't have a significant amount to lose and set yourself to sedentary.
Yeah... If I changed my goal to lose 10 pounds, sedentary, workout 6 times a week for 40 min/day, it would tell me to consume 1200 calories/day.
I mean.... I personally don't do this. I changed mine to 1500 and I eat back my exercise cals. But if this site is supposed to work the way it's set up... Then why. Why, I ask!
Because most people don't realise that you are supposed to eat exercise calories back and NET the calorie goal
Ok I see.... Now if those 1200 cals/day people just ate back their burn calories, then it would be ok? And if they don't excerice at all, then basically eating 1200 is not so ridiculous after all?
This site encourages you to eat back your exercise cals and follow your NET goal. So the ones who aren't doing that are doing it wrong?
Legitimate questions, not trying to be sarcastic.
I guess I'm just having a hard time understanding why those who are in the 1200 category are constantly getting criticized... I don't get it because they are simply doing what this site is suggesting they do. Sometimes it sounds like the ones criticizing them (not aimed at you, OP) are basically implying that they don't know what the hell they are doing or they have an eating disorder. And I guess they are doing it wrong if they're not eating back their burned calories. Or... this site's system is just slightly broken (going back to what WinnerVictorious said)0 -
Girl who eats 1800+ calories a day here 0
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just goes to show how much of this game is actually mental....obviously it's extremely easy to eat 3000 cals in one day with a particular mindset When i started on MFP i ate 700-800 cals per day and thought the very same thing....like how can I possibly EAT that much? However, instead of complaining, I took the mental leap and shoved the food in my mouth till I hit the "proper" cal amount which at that time was around 1800 to 2000 cals per day. No it didn't make me sick, because on some level, I knew what I was doing was for my own good..... but dammmmm everything in my head was saying like wtf are you doing? Well, i ignored it till it just became habit every day to eat what I was "supposed" to be eating. Now it is not an issue. I just ate over 1000 cals at Wimpy's. Totally NOT an issue any longer. I definately feel for those hitting that mental wall though.0
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... and claims she "cannot" get above 1200 calories... well you didn't have that problem before!!!
Lol, this is my favourite.
People obviously ate a lot more than 1200 calories a day to gain weight in the first place, yet now they are somehow physically unable to eat more. Yeeeeah right. Not really sure who they're lying to - themselves, or the rest of the World? Probably both.
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(Let me just add - this is coming from someone who previously ate about 200 calories a day due to severe eating disorders. Unless you have a mental health issue - there is nothing stopping you all of a sudden eat!)0
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