Think before you post.

Well, I found another brick wall to smash into. I have been studying diet and exercise for quite awhile now. I like to know how things work and why. I am really getting into the nitty gritty of things. It's been an amazing journey. I know you are supposed to eat your vegetables, but now I know why. But I fell for it once again. I assumed that we had all this stuff figured out and all I had to do is get up to speed. This has the same flavor as my Jesus study. I am currently at the proverbial cellular level of this study. When I learn something really cool, I want to share it with my friends. You have seen a few tid bits here and there. Well my current lesson is that we as humans do not know what the f##k is going on. I posted a gold nugget to motivate anyone to whom it might speak to. And then was attacked. These attackers have several years of forum posting. The mindset here is very negative. They are in attack mode. They are armed with resources to poke fun at you and humiliate you. And they run in packs.The facts they use against you are opinions from the worlds top researchers. They throw them at you mixed with their own opinions and insults. Here is where the lesson comes in. Most of you probably already know this, but I just got up to speed. These top researchers will publish a paper on a specific topic. Then a few years later they will publish another paper on the same topic saying they now have more evidence and that they were actually wrong before and now they have it figured out. Then another top researcher will come along and publish another paper contradicting the other guy. At any given time there are at least two theories on the same topic. There is no one all beat all fact. I have learned this and accepted this. But some people on the forum have not. Today they are backing the guy who is saying what they want to hear. God forbid he changes his theory. But this rant is a warning. I had my published papers and was ready to retaliate. But when I saw they were from the same top researchers as theirs I stopped myself. Apparently when the researcher changes universities or companies so does his opinion.


The people in the fitness world are fired up. Their is no shortage of testosterone. I honestly believe that one woman punched me in the face on her monitor. The car and motorcycle forums were fun. Those guys are just cool. The Jesus forums were frustrating but fun. Because of the topic they were forced to show patience and virtue. But these fitness forums are something else...I will be coming back.

Yes..I agree...our (myself and a few other community members) thoughts are...they all need twinkies..lots and lots of twinkies!! I have resorted to ignoring those that choose to live in a world of misery. There are quite a few cool cats here..sadly they are far and few in between!! Keep on doing you...keep posting your findings..just ignore the trash that battles you! :P

You mean ignore the ones that are trying to stop false information from spreading on the forums?

I did not read his original post ...however from this one (the one I did read)..sounded as though people got really nasty towards him...this is what I said should be ignored., So many are too quick to jump down one's throat on here..that is what needs to be ignored so it does not turn into an all out MFP battle.
Far too many people for there not to be disagreements...however you can have a disagreement with out the hostility.

I personally think you should be able to post whatever you want to and each person has their right to approve or disapprove but not attack or try to make you look stupid. There are soooooo many different theories out there. I can pick up a new magazine every week and it will tell me to try something else. I don't judge people by their beliefs weather it be weight loss or religion or climate changes. Post anything you like and don't get caught up with the negative. Skip over it and move on! Enjoy your day and don't let others get you down :-)

Yup. Everyone is different. Different things work for different people. Each to their own.

I personally think you should be able to post whatever you want to and each person has their right to approve or disapprove but not attack or try to make you look stupid. There are soooooo many different theories out there. I can pick up a new magazine every week and it will tell me to try something else. I don't judge people by their beliefs weather it be weight loss or religion or climate changes. Post anything you like and don't get caught up with the negative. Skip over it and move on! Enjoy your day and don't let others get you down :-)

I absolutely judge people on their beliefs.

If you believe something stupid, then you're probably stupid yourself.

I'll get my information from the pack - people using actual science to help me get the body I want, not some magazine who wants me to stay fat so I keep buying it. :laugh: :noway: :laugh:

PS I totally judge people by their beliefs. I'm judging now.

I'll get my information from the pack - people using actual science to help me get the body I want, not some magazine who wants me to stay fat so I keep buying it. :laugh: :noway: :laugh:

PS I totally judge people by their beliefs. I'm judging now.

I used to like reading weight loss magazines since they motivated me. Then, I decided to test a recipe from a weight loss magazine, and logged all the ingredients. The outcome was that my meal had about 100kcals more than what the recipe said there would be per serving - and I followed the recipe without changing anything. Haven't bought that mag since.

On the actual topic - I actually went and read the original topic, and found three kinds of people there: people telling him he's special and should believe on what he wants to (which is sort of true, he can believe in whatever he wants to and others have the same right), people telling him he's wrong because of XYZ (who are probably also correct and have every right to throw in an argument that contradicts what he's saying, and then back it up with facts), and then the people I'm guessing got him most upset (the people who only said things like "this is horses**t" without any other fact, opinion, or any indication of why they think that). I think all these groups have the right to exist, speak and comment (it's a free forum, and freedom of speech is a pretty cool thing), but I do feel the last group is still kind of rude and unnecessary - your point is that you think he's wrong, you could just say "I think you're wrong/I think what you said is incorrect", or better yet, move on to the group that says things like "I think you're wrong because of XYZ, which was proved in this study LINK".

But then again, the forums would be far less entertaining if everybody knew how to behave.

Well, what clinches it is that he was all like "I'm not going to dig up the research I was referring to. I'm wrong. Sorry." And then posts a classic "You are all soooo mean." He should have just posted the research he was referring to.

OP, I haven't read any of the posts to which you are referring, but I do agree with you. There is a "Pack" mentality on the forums. I often wonder if the phone tree gets activated, "we got another one", and these particular people show up in droves. Ignore them. They are so set in their own ideas and way of doing things, they are incapable of really listening or understanding anything else. If they aren't open to learning new things, they'll just miss out on a lot of great new things. Their loss. Pity them, and live your best life! :drinker:

totally this! there are so many schools of thought. just because someone can use google scholar doesn't mean they know anything. different schools of thoughts, different paradigms. let the haters hate and keep doing what works for you.