Husband wants to juice!!! - I prefer he did not!!
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wtf? wtf?
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?0 -
First off, that movie is not objective in that it only presents one point of view. I see it as a very long commercial for juice makers (you'll notice he is actually a spokesperson for a brand if juicers). I think it's important for your husband to see his doctor and ask him whether juicing-only might be dangerous. If he is pre-diabetic, for example, ingesting that much sugar at one time could exacerbate it.
I juice for nutrients since I never get enough fruit in my diet, but I never replace even one meal with it. My doctor thought I was taking a multivitamin from my blood work, but it was just the juice. It's a great way to make sure you are getting the nutrients we all need, but I hesitate at the idea that any liquid-only diet is a good idea. Our bodies just weren't evolved to do that. And natural fiber is so clearly amazing for our health and our weight.
It sounds like your husband is looking for an easy way out honestly, and we all know how many of those there are in real life. Go to the Mayo Clinic website to find actual scientific data about different fad diets - every article ends the same; eating less calories than you burn is the only reliable way to lose weight. That being said, the quickest way out of this situation might be just to get him on the juice diet so he can either succeed (always possible) or fail already and be done with it.0 -
Perfect - yes that helps!!! Now question - is this before juicing totals or after? Does juicing really just remove fiber? Or do they lose other nutrients such as above?
For a man with his build I am very concerned about protein. Especially since he mentioned starting the gym. And like I said when he did it before I noticed he was grabbing veggies / fruits that he likes and knows..without any rhyme or reason. Thank you tons for this!
The most important question is how LONG does he plan to do this for?0 -
I think you have gotten some pretty good for/against opinions in this thread.
If you take anything from it, I would say it is not to close your mind to the prospect of him trying it. I wouldn't do it personally, but that is my preference.
I hope he enjoys it and it turns out to be a good experience for him. You however, I can tell you don't want to do it, and that is OKAY! Don't let him rope you into doing it if you truly don't want to.0 -
Tell him to read a book by Jose Canseco called "juiced". The plan in there will get him better results.0
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OP I notice you're not responding to the folks who support juicing. Are you just looking for people to validate your opinion or are you actually looking to learn about the benefits?
No LOL (well maybe..no just kidding) - what I am looking for are not just opinions...but facts of why it is good or why it is bad. We all have our own opinions on diets. And other than starving yourself..who says what is right or wrong. However I love my husband and if it causes more problems than it solves...I want him to be aware of it. If someone gives me their opinion of why it is good - that doesn't help me...I need facts of why it is good. If someone agrees with me on why it is bad..well then..I agree haha
Just need solid info so I can speak my peace and help him at least do it safely.0 -
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?
sexist? seriously? it is just my opinion dude. get over it.0 -
Tell him to read a book by Jose Canseco called "juiced". The plan in there will get him better results.
Will look that up - thank you!0 -
Will look that up - thank you!
Yeah...he was trolling you. Jose Canseco was a steroid using baseball player.0 -
Not eating is simply bad for your body. Here are some substantiated reasons why extended juining is not good for you:
Juice fasts are simply not sustainable. Any weight you lose, you’ll put straight back on again, possibly with extra because short-term, low-calorie crash diets like this mess around with your metabolism. And once you start eating "normally" again you will simply gain the weight you lost back.
Fiber – (or the lack of it) With no fiber in your diet, even after a couple of days, constipation will become a problem, and in the long term, your cholesterol levels could be affected as fiber helps keep them low. So if you’re not getting enough fiber, your cholesterol could shoot up.
You’ll undoubtedly always feel hungry as you’re not consuming any of the fiber that helps fill you up.
Don’t even think about exercising. You might be getting a quick sugar rush, but you’re not consuming any carbohydrates, so exercising, or even normal daily life is going to be almost impossible. You’ll feel light-headed and exhausted.
Stomach aches are also a common side-effect of the juice fast.
Protein – (or the lack of it) Plan on losing a considerable amount of muscle tissue. No protein = no muscle maintenance. Also the chance on losing your hair increases due to the lack of protein and other essential nutrients. If your body isn’t getting the nutrition it needs, it powers down the processes that it considers as being not essential to life, and one of those is hair production. Oh, yea, and you will always feel hungry as protien helps with satation
Juice from vegetables and especially from fruits, which tend to have a higher acid content, can damage the enamel of your teeth in exactly the same way that a fizzy drink would. Generally, we consider the acids in fruit and vegetables to be “good” but that’s only in the context of eating the whole thing, not when you’re drinking a super-concentrated juice.
Low-calorie diets like juicing cause the body’s insulin levels to spike and crash which initially causes break-outs, but over time, this insulin cycle alters the structures of collagen and elastin in the body, making them stiffer, and causing skin to look prematurely old. Damage to collagen will also affect your teeth, as it’s collagen fibers that hold them in place.
So, a lack of energy, a messed-up digestive system, prematurely aged skin, rotting teeth and hair loss, muscle loss — hardly the healthy, cleansed body that juice devotees are aiming for, is it?0 -
The most important question is how LONG does he plan to do this for?
Right now he is all over the place with that answer...first it was eating only dinner. Then it was well maybe I will do it every day at work only (long term) and then it was well maybe I will do it every other week. Then he was back to long term !? LOL I think it depends on his success-fulness of weight loss.0 -
Yeah...he was trolling you. Jose Canseco was a steroid using baseball player.
I think the point still stands0 -
Yeah...he was trolling you. Jose Canseco was a steroid using baseball player.
well at least you know I do not want sports or pay any attention to it what so ever...Thank you! (and the original..Punk!)0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?0 -
What you prefer is not relevent, you do not make his choices. Give him information that you feel is relevent to your concerns and then back off. He will make his own decision.
RIGHT.0 -
No LOL (well maybe..no just kidding) - what I am looking for are not just opinions...but facts of why it is good or why it is bad. We all have our own opinions on diets. And other than starving yourself..who says what is right or wrong. However I love my husband and if it causes more problems than it solves...I want him to be aware of it. If someone gives me their opinion of why it is good - that doesn't help me...I need facts of why it is good. If someone agrees with me on why it is bad..well then..I agree haha
Just need solid info so I can speak my peace and help him at least do it safely.
Haha I wish I was at a computer, but juicing helps with quick absorption of nutrients, enzymes, all sorts of great stuff, without the body having to separate it from the fiber first. It's definitely not a long term solution, but it can really provide a lot of benefits in the short term. The reality is that they're going to be the same benefits as if he were eating a clean diet. Juicing or cleansing can just make the transition easier because it can help break "addictions" to crap. The really important thing, though, is what you do on the other end of the juicing plan. If you go back to eating normally, the weight will come back.0 -
I would prefer my husband to be an example to my kids by juicing a lot rather than driving them through McDonalds or making frozen processed foods every night for dinner.....It could be worse. It sounds like he is still eating dinner, snacks, and eating on the weekends. Nothing wrong with it. He is drinking juice from vegetables that come from the earth.
Why would going through Mcdonalds or eating processed food be the only other option? How about eating food? You know, from the earth. And like I said, he could include juice, of course, but not as every single meal for multiple days in a row, unless that's what you would teach your child. It is not what I will teach mine.0 -
No LOL (well maybe..no just kidding) - what I am looking for are not just opinions...but facts of why it is good or why it is bad. We all have our own opinions on diets. And other than starving yourself..who says what is right or wrong. However I love my husband and if it causes more problems than it solves...I want him to be aware of it. If someone gives me their opinion of why it is good - that doesn't help me...I need facts of why it is good. If someone agrees with me on why it is bad..well then..I agree haha
Just need solid info so I can speak my peace and help him at least do it safely.
Don't think there aren't any health benefits to juicing. If you use the almighty Google, there are plenty out there. I know a young lady who juices all of her veggies but she does that because she won't eat them. I consider that a much different situation that what you are describing. But there are some significant health benefits, especially when taken as a supplement for foods you don't like to eat.
I don't particularly like the prospect of it for losing weight, I try to get all the fiber in my diet that I can. That's just me though, some people swear by it.0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!
that is why it is called an opinion. you like yellow hats? i don't...i don't understand why you like yellow hats?! who f*cking cares- it is not for me to understand. you just like them. i just feel it is not very many to drink fruits and vegetables instead of eating real food. it reminds me of a "get skinny quick" fad diet. people, get over it. not everyone has to share the same damn opinions or feelings or beliefs about drinking food.0 -
Watch Fat, sick, and almost dead... or visit www.fatsickandalmostdead.com ... I want to juice as soon as I can afford a good expensive juicer. Really great benefits...0
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Perfect - yes that helps!!! Now question - is this before juicing totals or after? Does juicing really just remove fiber? Or do they lose other nutrients such as above?
For a man with his build I am very concerned about protein. Especially since he mentioned starting the gym. And like I said when he did it before I noticed he was grabbing veggies / fruits that he likes and knows..without any rhyme or reason. Thank you tons for this!
Juicing removes the insoluble fibre which leaves all nutrients in the juice.
Insoluble fibre however does have its value in the digestive system , so I eat bananas etc smoothies.
Juicing is a way of getting high concentrations of nutrients from a large number of fruits and vegetables, more fruit and veg
that anyone could generally eat in one day with the best will in the world.
Total juicing ( no solid food) should be for short periods of time and is called a fast although a fast is really just water.
Extended fasting suit highly spiritual persons and most people cant manage
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I did it in phases for 60 days, then stopped for a bit. I'm still losing a lot of weight and have more energy than ever. Juicing caused my entire appetite to change in 4 days. I no longer have cravings for junk food or large amounts of red meat. My devotion to bacon dried up instantly. It was (and still is) really weird.
I don't think juicing was ever intended to be a sole source of food, but it definitely helped me reboot my system. I would never suggest juicing for more than 60 days and I wouldn't suggest that as his only food source for those 60 days.0 -
Personally I find it baffling, to separate out the fiber like that. But I am a person who likes to drink their calories and so many people are baffled by my love for shakes and smoothies, so I don't suppose I have room to talk.0
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There are many opinions out there about juicing, and one I've read in a book recently by a celebrity trainer was that juicing removed some of the vital nutrients found in the fruits and veggies and that it's actually a better idea to blend them into a smoothie! Now, as long as he's getting all his food groups (protein, carbs, healthy fats) with his meals then I don't see anything wrong with it, but he has to be getting protein in every meal! I love to make a healthy smoothie for one meal a day and plan to maybe start doing it for two meals a day and eat a healthy dinner!
You're never going to really find the facts you need, because whatever facts you find to support your argument, there will always be facts to support the other side as well! Information nowadays is just all over the place and crazy! As long as he's getting his nutrients and hopefully exercising then it's all good!
Here is a link to that book I was talking about! http://www.amazon.com/The-Body-Reset-Diet-Metabolism/dp/16096155060 -
Try to stand by your husband and be supportive. 0
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Juicing removes the insoluble fibre which leaves all nutrients in the juice.
Insoluble fibre however does have its value in the digestive system , so I eat bananas etc smoothies.
Juicing is a way of getting high concentrations of nutrients from a large number of fruits and vegetables, more fruit and veg
that anyone could generally eat in one day with the best will in the world.
Total juicing ( no solid food) should be for short periods of time and is called a fast although a fast is really just water.
Extended fasting suit highly spiritual persons and most people cant manage
You rock! Thank you for the explanations...:)0 -
There are many opinions out there about juicing, and one I've read in a book recently by a celebrity trainer was that juicing removed some of the vital nutrients found in the fruits and veggies and that it's actually a better idea to blend them into a smoothie! Now, as long as he's getting all his food groups (protein, carbs, healthy fats) with his meals then I don't see anything wrong with it, but he has to be getting protein in every meal! I love to make a healthy smoothie for one meal a day and plan to maybe start doing it for two meals a day and eat a healthy dinner!
You're never going to really find the facts you need, because whatever facts you find to support your argument, there will always be facts to support the other side as well! Information nowadays is just all over the place and crazy! As long as he's getting his nutrients and hopefully exercising then it's all good!
Here is a link to that book I was talking about! http://www.amazon.com/The-Body-Reset-Diet-Metabolism/dp/1609615506
Thank you ...and so true!! LOL0 -
Haha I wish I was at a computer, but juicing helps with quick absorption of nutrients, enzymes, all sorts of great stuff, without the body having to separate it from the fiber first. It's definitely not a long term solution, but it can really provide a lot of benefits in the short term. The reality is that they're going to be the same benefits as if he were eating a clean diet. Juicing or cleansing can just make the transition easier because it can help break "addictions" to crap. The really important thing, though, is what you do on the other end of the juicing plan. If you go back to eating normally, the weight will come back.
Too true it needs to be a start of a clean eating, healthy lifestyle change!0 -
Consult a doctor.
There are MANY good fitness/diet books out there by actual practicing Medical Doctors.
The first that come to mind are
"Just Tell Me What to Eat"
and
"Body for Life" (There is also BFL For Women)
Neither of those mentions juicing that I recall.
There is also a book by an OD (Osteopath) called "What Does Your Doctor Look like Naked?" about nutrition.0 -
I did it in phases for 60 days, then stopped for a bit. I'm still losing a lot of weight and have more energy than ever. Juicing caused my entire appetite to change in 4 days. I no longer have cravings for junk food or large amounts of red meat. My devotion to bacon dried up instantly. It was (and still is) really weird.
I don't think juicing was ever intended to be a sole source of food, but it definitely helped me reboot my system. I would never suggest juicing for more than 60 days and I wouldn't suggest that as his only food source for those 60 days.
He just mentioned the whole cravings thing...He is a muncher for sure and thinks this will kill his urge to stop munching. Thank you! (removal of bacon...ohhhh the devastation I feel LOL)0
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