Husband wants to juice!!! - I prefer he did not!!
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Consult a doctor.
There are MANY good fitness/diet books out there by actual practicing Medical Doctors.
The first that come to mind are
"Just Tell Me What to Eat"
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"Body for Life" (There is also BFL For Women)
Neither of those mentions juicing that I recall.
There is also a book by an OD (Osteopath) called "What Does Your Doctor Look like Naked?" about nutrition.
Someone else mentioned getting a doctors opinion - and I told him...to be sure his body would be OK to do this he may want to make an appointment for some blood work first. (plus having his Dr.s ok would validate him haha) Hopefully he at least takes that bit of advice from here.0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!i don't think it is very manly to juice but that is my personal opinion. i would take away my husband's man card if he wanted to juice. i have never tried it. i never will. i agree that is a fad diet. why doesn't he just go lift and drink a protein shake after- you could use a blender for those too!
Wtf?
wtf? wtf?
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?
that is why it is called an opinion. you like yellow hats? i don't...i don't understand why you like yellow hats?! who f*cking cares- it is not for me to understand. you just like them. i just feel it is not very many to drink fruits and vegetables instead of eating real food. it reminds me of a "get skinny quick" fad diet. people, get over it. not everyone has to share the same damn opinions or feelings or beliefs about drinking food.
having preconceived notions about groups of people, be they men, women, blacks, whites, asians, gays, straights, etc are not the same thing as liking yellow hats.
but anyway, back to the thread.0 -
Since I was called a troll for making a joke...Here is some real advice.
The majority of time when (i said majority) someone undertakes an extreme diet such as a juice fast, here is what happens. Instant success on the scale, the majority of which is water loss. You are miserable and eventually water levels balance out and even though you are starving all the time you see little progress on the scale in a week or two. Despair sets in, and you think of every food you like and you eat all of it. You then weigh yourself and find that you gained the majority of the weight back.
Then a second post comes on board that you are giving up and nothing works.
Please convince him to start a manageable diet with a moderate calorie deficit and get to the gym.0 -
He is eating food. He is eating dinner with his family. He is juicing from morning until dinner, Eats dinner with his family, has a snack, and eats food during the weekends. I dont understand why that would be setting a bad example for children? I think its setting a GREAT example for the children. When I have kids, I am going to show them how to juice fresh fruit from an orange and strawberries rather than go to the store and buy the premade juice that has all the other additives. I think it would be a
great example to set for your children. Its sad the way children are growing up these days, so many obese children.I would prefer my husband to be an example to my kids by juicing a lot rather than driving them through McDonalds or making frozen processed foods every night for dinner.....It could be worse. It sounds like he is still eating dinner, snacks, and eating on the weekends. Nothing wrong with it. He is drinking juice from vegetables that come from the earth.He shouldn't do anything that you wouldn't encourage your child to do, or your teenager to do, or your twenty year old child to do. He is supposed to be setting an example for you child as to how to eat healthfully and balanced. He is a parent and he has that responsibility. He could include juice, of course, to add to his diet, but not as every single meal for multiple days in a row. What kind of parental message is that to send? If that's not enough to convince him that it's a horrible idea then I don't know what is.
Why would going through Mcdonalds or eating processed food be the only other option? How about eating food? You know, from the earth. And like I said, he could include juice, of course, but not as every single meal for multiple days in a row, unless that's what you would teach your child. It is not what I will teach mine.0 -
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I am glad I am currently single and can eat what I want when I want without interference these days.
I am into juicing for a couple of months now. I have never successfully only had juices all day ever, even at my
best I have consumed salads, sprouted peas and beans and seed bars , nuts, and thick smoothies.
I would let him do what he likes and see for himself the health benefits and what he can manage.
My aim is to be raw vegan and I had to get back on here because its amazing the amount of calories you can consume,
especially with a healthy appetite from fitness.
As those into juicing say : Nobody goes into a frenzy over people eating junk food, ask them how they are going to live and
where are they going to get there nutrients from, but juice a large quantity of vegetable and fruits, and people are freaked out!
Here is my problem - I think he is doing it to drop weight fast. He has been having problems with his back and thinks his weight is to blame. He is already losing counting calories but knows he lost more that one week he tried the juicing. So my thought (fear) is that he is not doing it for the "healthy" reasons but more of a quick fix. Then when he goes back to eating food...we are back to square one.
I am not freaking out believe me...not my style. But trying to convince him to lose the weight in a manner that he can continue for the rest of his life so he does not have to start all over in 6 months. In my mind...like I said pure juicing is just a quick fix. Convincing him to eat a sensible dinner in addition to juicing took me a bit of pressure to convince him. Mind you we have 2 - 8 year old girls. i do not under any circumstance want them to have unhealthy relationships with food so I am careful how they perceive food. Seeing their Daddy (who they copy quite often) drink his meals = unhealthy thoughts later on in life. So I got him to agree to that. Right now he says he won't on the weekend - but if he drops weight he may be intrigued to push it further. Being single without kids is one thing...being married with small children (female mind you and one already with weight issues..) is another.
Not to mention - protein...how much protein can he get with the food he chooses to juice?? - Losing muscle is not an option.
Ok yes drastic weight loss is the usual angle rather than health, I understand now.
Your questions deserve answers:
Vegetables provide incomplete proteins, chains of amino acids, apparently the body can reuse protein and have chains of amino acids in store , so doesn't need full chain to be eaten in one day.
Spinach 49% protein
kale 45% protein
broccoli 45% protein
cauliflower 48% protein
cucumber 24% protein
green pepper 22% protein
If he wasn't eating an evening meal it would be good to eat sprouted beans and seed and various nuts
Hope this helps
Perfect - yes that helps!!! Now question - is this before juicing totals or after? Does juicing really just remove fiber? Or do they lose other nutrients such as above?
For a man with his build I am very concerned about protein. Especially since he mentioned starting the gym. And like I said when he did it before I noticed he was grabbing veggies / fruits that he likes and knows..without any rhyme or reason. Thank you tons for this!
The most important question is how LONG does he plan to do this for?
Right now he is all over the place with that answer...first it was eating only dinner. Then it was well maybe I will do it every day at work only (long term) and then it was well maybe I will do it every other week. Then he was back to long term !? LOL I think it depends on his success-fulness of weight loss.
ok this is a problem then.
he needs to be educated that juicing two meals a day is NOT sustainable long term. this needs to be a short term way for him to overhaul his diet, nothing more than that. if he's seeing this as something he's going to do for the long haul, he will most likely end up right where he is now.
what is your husband's (and your) diet like right now? where do you guys want it to be?0 -
Since I was called a troll for making a joke...Here is some real advice.
The majority of time when (i said majority) someone undertakes an extreme diet such as a juice fast, here is what happens. Instant success on the scale, the majority of which is water loss. You are miserable and eventually water levels balance out and even though you are starving all the time you see little progress on the scale in a week or two. Despair sets in, and you think of every food you like and you eat all of it. You then weigh yourself and find that you gained the majority of the weight back.
Then a second post comes on board that you are giving up and nothing works.
Please convince him to start a manageable diet with a moderate calorie deficit and get to the gym.
^^ This is EXACTLY my thoughts when I started this thread! ^^ Well that and how much damage it can do besides the obvious.
(too much sugar etc. - too much of anything is bad in my opinion)
Hopefully he will speak with his doctor - from there if they say go ahead then I just have to ensure he has all the info necessary to do it as safely as humanly possible until he stops.
If and when he stops...then I kick in with sensible meals all day so he can learn how to lose then maintain
Like someone else said previously..you can lead a horse to water...getting him to drink is a totally different battle. 0 -
I am glad I am currently single and can eat what I want when I want without interference these days.
I am into juicing for a couple of months now. I have never successfully only had juices all day ever, even at my
best I have consumed salads, sprouted peas and beans and seed bars , nuts, and thick smoothies.
I would let him do what he likes and see for himself the health benefits and what he can manage.
My aim is to be raw vegan and I had to get back on here because its amazing the amount of calories you can consume,
especially with a healthy appetite from fitness.
As those into juicing say : Nobody goes into a frenzy over people eating junk food, ask them how they are going to live and
where are they going to get there nutrients from, but juice a large quantity of vegetable and fruits, and people are freaked out!
Here is my problem - I think he is doing it to drop weight fast. He has been having problems with his back and thinks his weight is to blame. He is already losing counting calories but knows he lost more that one week he tried the juicing. So my thought (fear) is that he is not doing it for the "healthy" reasons but more of a quick fix. Then when he goes back to eating food...we are back to square one.
I am not freaking out believe me...not my style. But trying to convince him to lose the weight in a manner that he can continue for the rest of his life so he does not have to start all over in 6 months. In my mind...like I said pure juicing is just a quick fix. Convincing him to eat a sensible dinner in addition to juicing took me a bit of pressure to convince him. Mind you we have 2 - 8 year old girls. i do not under any circumstance want them to have unhealthy relationships with food so I am careful how they perceive food. Seeing their Daddy (who they copy quite often) drink his meals = unhealthy thoughts later on in life. So I got him to agree to that. Right now he says he won't on the weekend - but if he drops weight he may be intrigued to push it further. Being single without kids is one thing...being married with small children (female mind you and one already with weight issues..) is another.
Not to mention - protein...how much protein can he get with the food he chooses to juice?? - Losing muscle is not an option.
Ok yes drastic weight loss is the usual angle rather than health, I understand now.
Your questions deserve answers:
Vegetables provide incomplete proteins, chains of amino acids, apparently the body can reuse protein and have chains of amino acids in store , so doesn't need full chain to be eaten in one day.
Spinach 49% protein
kale 45% protein
broccoli 45% protein
cauliflower 48% protein
cucumber 24% protein
green pepper 22% protein
If he wasn't eating an evening meal it would be good to eat sprouted beans and seed and various nuts
Hope this helps
Perfect - yes that helps!!! Now question - is this before juicing totals or after? Does juicing really just remove fiber? Or do they lose other nutrients such as above?
For a man with his build I am very concerned about protein. Especially since he mentioned starting the gym. And like I said when he did it before I noticed he was grabbing veggies / fruits that he likes and knows..without any rhyme or reason. Thank you tons for this!
The most important question is how LONG does he plan to do this for?
Right now he is all over the place with that answer...first it was eating only dinner. Then it was well maybe I will do it every day at work only (long term) and then it was well maybe I will do it every other week. Then he was back to long term !? LOL I think it depends on his success-fulness of weight loss.
ok this is a problem then.
he needs to be educated that juicing two meals a day is NOT sustainable long term. this needs to be a short term way for him to overhaul his diet, nothing more than that. if he's seeing this as something he's going to do for the long haul, he will most likely end up right where he is now.
what is your husband's (and your) diet like right now? where do you guys want it to be?
I just started him out on Monday doing what I am...TDEE - 20% I work out - he doesn't currently. I also bought him a fit bit so I can get a better idea on how much he moves around at work. He lost 5 pounds the first 2 days or something (weighs himself daily) then nothing and then the topic of juicing came back up
Hence my thought he is looking for a quick fix.
My goal (for both) is to lose the weight to something reasonably healthy (doesn't have to be perfect) and then maintain a healthy active lifestyle....0 -
I've been on a juice cleanse of fruits and veggies for 30 days now with my wife so I thought I might add my thoughts & experience.
First, know that a juice cleanse is to get you healthy and get rid of the trash from your body. Losing weight is a side benefit. The health benefits should be the goal, not the weight loss.
Second, I would only recommend doing it with a goal in mind, as in a limited period of time. I think the best bet is 15-20 days. Check out Reboot with Joe. My wife and I are doing 60 days but I think they benefits seem to be all in place by 20 days at the latest.
Third, go all in. It's a cleanse. There is no point in a partial cleanse. Do not do off days or normal meals. Ease back into regular eating at the end, adding a small meal or so a day. Not only is this how you get the benefits of the cleanse, its also how you keep your sanity. Not eating anything is so much easier than occasionally eating.
Fourth, know that your first week will SUCK. Get past it, it is brutal. You will be in a terrible mood and will not feel good. Push through.
My results so far: I feel great. I've been lifting heavily, running, biking, and playing soccer. Because of my workout levels I supplement with protein powders so I don't die. I've lost some muscle mass in spite of this, not too much but some, probably 2 pounds, since in my first week I didn't supplement. The amount of energy available to your body is incredible. I have been able to run farther than I have in over a year. It's like you take a step and get your runner's high.
For the past 4 years I've had rashes, both underarm and a forehead rash. With medication I could keep them at bay. I've not used any medication since a few days before I started this. The rashes are gone. They disappeared entirely in the first 2 weeks. I can't tell you how happy I am about that.
My acne is reduced and it heals up a lot faster. It took around 25 days for this benefit, probably because it's not entirely related to eating.
Finally I've lost around 18 pounds, but as I said, that's a side benefit. A little bit of muscle is in that, I've dipped about 5% in my lifting ability. I was not obese or anything; I'm 6'2 and weigh 182 today. I'll hit 5% bodyfat at 170. I've generally kept my weight around 175 at peak fitness.0 -
Not sure of your situation, but maybe you can talk him out of it due to the monetary factor. IT IS EXPENSIVE. When we had a juicer it took $15-30 of produce to make 3 or 4 cups (real cups, not drinking glasses)0
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I just started him out on Monday doing what I am...TDEE - 20% I work out - he doesn't currently. I also bought him a fit bit so I can get a better idea on how much he moves around at work. He lost 5 pounds the first 2 days or something (weighs himself daily) then nothing and then the topic of juicing came back up Hence my thought he is looking for a quick fix.
My goal (for both) is to lose the weight to something reasonably healthy (doesn't have to be perfect) and then maintain a healthy active lifestyle....
ok, well then if he isn't actually interested in eating a more "clean" diet, the juicing fast isn't going to accomplish anything. he has to WANT to overhaul his diet, otherwise yes, he's just looking for a quick fix that isn't going to fix anything.
after less than a week, he's already feeling the TDEE-20% isn't working? i think he just needs some education on weight loss, diet and nutrition. maybe consider going to see a nutritionist or dietician, someone who's authority he'd respect? everything worth having takes time, and losing weight is no different.0 -
Not sure of your situation, but maybe you can talk him out of it due to the monetary factor. IT IS EXPENSIVE. When we had a juicer it took $15-30 of produce to make 3 or 4 cups (real cups, not drinking glasses)
that's a gross exaggeration. an apple and 3 medium carrots make about a cup of juice. that's like... under a dollar's worth of produce.0 -
Not sure of your situation, but maybe you can talk him out of it due to the monetary factor. IT IS EXPENSIVE. When we had a juicer it took $15-30 of produce to make 3 or 4 cups (real cups, not drinking glasses)
that's a gross exaggeration. an apple and 3 medium carrots make about a cup of juice. that's like... under a dollar's worth of produce.
Not in my machine they didn't. I had a waring pro (it has gone to juicer heaven) but an apple made about 1/4 cup of juice, 3 carrots close to the same. My juice recipes included kale and spinach, beets and celery and other stuff like ginger, basil, mint though.... apple and carrots is not much to consume if you are actually juicing and not just making some juice.0 -
I just started him out on Monday doing what I am...TDEE - 20% I work out - he doesn't currently. I also bought him a fit bit so I can get a better idea on how much he moves around at work. He lost 5 pounds the first 2 days or something (weighs himself daily) then nothing and then the topic of juicing came back up Hence my thought he is looking for a quick fix.
My goal (for both) is to lose the weight to something reasonably healthy (doesn't have to be perfect) and then maintain a healthy active lifestyle....
ok, well then if he isn't actually interested in eating a more "clean" diet, the juicing fast isn't going to accomplish anything. he has to WANT to overhaul his diet, otherwise yes, he's just looking for a quick fix that isn't going to fix anything.
after less than a week, he's already feeling the TDEE-20% isn't working? i think he just needs some education on weight loss, diet and nutrition. maybe consider going to see a nutritionist or dietician, someone who's authority he'd respect? everything worth having takes time, and losing weight is no different.
I agree - I would think watching me over the past few months he would realize it takes time and effort. Sure I can do a quick fix but it is not a long term solution. I certainly did not lose this weight in a month - I actually started in September but only kicked my self in the behind in January.
It took me awhile to get him to realize I would rather wait till I get home to eat than stopping in Mcdonalds or wendys...at first he would grab it anyways. Now he says..ok where do you want to eat, giving me the control because I know who has the healthiest options and who doesn't. He notices I have lost weight and have started slimming and I think in a way he wants to play catch up (does that make sense or do I sound like a B for saying that LOL)0 -
Not sure of your situation, but maybe you can talk him out of it due to the monetary factor. IT IS EXPENSIVE. When we had a juicer it took $15-30 of produce to make 3 or 4 cups (real cups, not drinking glasses)
that's a gross exaggeration. an apple and 3 medium carrots make about a cup of juice. that's like... under a dollar's worth of produce.
Not in my machine they didn't. I had a waring pro (it has gone to juicer heaven) but an apple made about 1/4 cup of juice, 3 carrots close to the same. My juice recipes included kale and spinach, beets and celery and other stuff like ginger, basil, mint though.... apple and carrots is not much to consume if you are actually juicing and not just making some juice.
I wish - money is not a factor for him unless it is a utility bill LOL0 -
This is a fun article including someone's experience as well as several doc's opinions - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/fashion/28Cleanse.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I don't know if my earlier response got buried in all this activity, but I hope you saw it!0 -
This is a fun article including someone's experience as well as several doc's opinions - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/fashion/28Cleanse.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I don't know if my earlier response got buried in all this activity, but I hope you saw it!
Thank you ~ I did see it and I did mention the diabetic part to him - and in fact the very reason i suggested the dr's opinion & blood work. 0 -
I just started him out on Monday doing what I am...TDEE - 20% I work out - he doesn't currently. I also bought him a fit bit so I can get a better idea on how much he moves around at work. He lost 5 pounds the first 2 days or something (weighs himself daily) then nothing and then the topic of juicing came back up Hence my thought he is looking for a quick fix.
My goal (for both) is to lose the weight to something reasonably healthy (doesn't have to be perfect) and then maintain a healthy active lifestyle....
ok, well then if he isn't actually interested in eating a more "clean" diet, the juicing fast isn't going to accomplish anything. he has to WANT to overhaul his diet, otherwise yes, he's just looking for a quick fix that isn't going to fix anything.
after less than a week, he's already feeling the TDEE-20% isn't working? i think he just needs some education on weight loss, diet and nutrition. maybe consider going to see a nutritionist or dietician, someone who's authority he'd respect? everything worth having takes time, and losing weight is no different.
I agree - I would think watching me over the past few months he would realize it takes time and effort. Sure I can do a quick fix but it is not a long term solution. I certainly did not lose this weight in a month - I actually started in September but only kicked my self in the behind in January.
It took me awhile to get him to realize I would rather wait till I get home to eat than stopping in Mcdonalds or wendys...at first he would grab it anyways. Now he says..ok where do you want to eat, giving me the control because I know who has the healthiest options and who doesn't. He notices I have lost weight and have started slimming and I think in a way he wants to play catch up (does that make sense or do I sound like a B for saying that LOL)
In that case. It is rather good for you. I did it (not for weight loss, but to "cleanse") and felt amazing. He has to fix his diet though. This will just jack up his system if he does it between crap eating.0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!i don't think it is very manly to juice but that is my personal opinion. i would take away my husband's man card if he wanted to juice. i have never tried it. i never will. i agree that is a fad diet. why doesn't he just go lift and drink a protein shake after- you could use a blender for those too!
Wtf?
wtf? wtf?
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?
that is why it is called an opinion. you like yellow hats? i don't...i don't understand why you like yellow hats?! who f*cking cares- it is not for me to understand. you just like them. i just feel it is not very many to drink fruits and vegetables instead of eating real food. it reminds me of a "get skinny quick" fad diet. people, get over it. not everyone has to share the same damn opinions or feelings or beliefs about drinking food.
having preconceived notions about groups of people, be they men, women, blacks, whites, asians, gays, straights, etc are not the same thing as liking yellow hats.
but anyway, back to the thread.
lol. you must live for this *kitten*! good luck IRL!0 -
A little comic relief..... Carrot Juice is Murder...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYpYHg9v1ow 0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!i don't think it is very manly to juice but that is my personal opinion. i would take away my husband's man card if he wanted to juice. i have never tried it. i never will. i agree that is a fad diet. why doesn't he just go lift and drink a protein shake after- you could use a blender for those too!
Wtf?
wtf? wtf?
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?
that is why it is called an opinion. you like yellow hats? i don't...i don't understand why you like yellow hats?! who f*cking cares- it is not for me to understand. you just like them. i just feel it is not very many to drink fruits and vegetables instead of eating real food. it reminds me of a "get skinny quick" fad diet. people, get over it. not everyone has to share the same damn opinions or feelings or beliefs about drinking food.
having preconceived notions about groups of people, be they men, women, blacks, whites, asians, gays, straights, etc are not the same thing as liking yellow hats.
but anyway, back to the thread.
lol. you must live for this *kitten*! good luck IRL!
thanks. i do pretty well. 0 -
A juice fast doesn't have to be a bad thing! That being said, if your husband wants to do it for more than a few days at a time, he needs to talk to his doctor about it.0
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I watched the "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" video at the suggestion of a co-worker. I'll have to admit it is really tempting. I just can't see myself flushing all of that leftovers down the disposal. I feel that the main benefit of the juice diet is to "reset" your system so to speak. Then eat healthy and sensibly (i.e. no processed or chemical laden foods). I think the idea is to just do it for a short period of time and then to eat regularly again, not to make this a way of life (maybe once a day). My co-worker just bought his juicer and says he's hungry all of the time and that the juice tastes bad. Oh well, it's really not the way I would go. As to what you should do. I think your husband has this in his head. He may be resentful if you don't support him and let him try it. It won't hurt to juice for a few of weeks and maybe will get your family talking about healthy habits. In short humor him and support him. Who knows, you may want to try something he thinks is crazy (Like a trip to the Bahamas!). Good luck.0
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haha ya I am for the Bahamas..maybe I can get a bet going for a trip Then again - I am dead set against betting him on anything! He is competitive and will ensure I lose the bet! haha 0
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I love to juice and you can make healthy juices that have plenty of nutrients and more than enough calories. I juice every day for breakfast and sometimes if I've got a million things to do and I know I won't get home till late in the evening, I will make a second juice to take with me for my supper. I will usually compliment this with a bowl of fresh fruit and plain greek yogurt, and then I will have a nice healthy lunch of my choice.
If I know I'm going to be home for supper, I will often pack a second juice for my lunch instead (still keeping the fruit and yogurt bowl as a snack through the day).
There are plenty of ways to make juices that are full of vitamins and a good amount of calories. For example, here is one of my favorite juice recipes:
1/4 pineapple
2 apples
1/4 cucumber
large handful of spinach (or kale or a variety of mixed greens - whatever is in the fridge!)
1/2 beet
2 carrots
1 stalk celery
chunk of fresh ginger
1/2 lemon or lime
Juice all of this together and then throw it into a blender and add 1/2 of an avocado, 2 tbsp of Chia Seeds and a handful of ice. Blend into a creamy smoothie, packed full of nutrients and consisting of about 450 calories. YUMMY!!
I have dozens of juicing recipes and I use them every day, usually in conjuntion with 1 full meal and 1 or more healthy snacks. I really don't think that is a bad plan.
I haven't seen the "fat, sick and nearly dead" program, however, I really enjoyed "Hungry for Change". This is what prompted me to start juicing. I made sure to log my juicing every day to show myself whether I was getting enough sustinance from it.
Bottom line is: It's easy, it's healthy (if you do it right), and it's fun!! Plus, my daughter LOVES her "milkshakes" (which I pack full of fresh fruit and veggies). She would gladly take that over a glass of sugar-filled juice from concentrate.0 -
Huh, Totally over my head. I guess, I dont understand why "juicing" is feminine? Just shaking my head confused!!i don't think it is very manly to juice but that is my personal opinion. i would take away my husband's man card if he wanted to juice. i have never tried it. i never will. i agree that is a fad diet. why doesn't he just go lift and drink a protein shake after- you could use a blender for those too!
Wtf?
wtf? wtf?
Sexist much? It's... just juice. What does that have to do with your "manliness"? I assume men shouldn't be vegans or take care of their skin either?
that is why it is called an opinion. you like yellow hats? i don't...i don't understand why you like yellow hats?! who f*cking cares- it is not for me to understand. you just like them. i just feel it is not very many to drink fruits and vegetables instead of eating real food. it reminds me of a "get skinny quick" fad diet. people, get over it. not everyone has to share the same damn opinions or feelings or beliefs about drinking food.
having preconceived notions about groups of people, be they men, women, blacks, whites, asians, gays, straights, etc are not the same thing as liking yellow hats.
but anyway, back to the thread.
lol. you must live for this *kitten*! good luck IRL!
For what it's worth, I agree with your opinion.0 -
I love that you make this for your daughter! That's great. I will be doing this for my children some day as well and will refrain from all those sugary drinks with all the extra additives.
Bottom line is: It's easy, it's healthy (if you do it right), and it's fun!! Plus, my daughter LOVES her "milkshakes" (which I pack full of fresh fruit and veggies). She would gladly take that over a glass of sugar-filled juice from concentrate.
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Forget Joe Cross, we should all strive to be more like Jack Lalanne, may he rest in peace.0
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I love to juice, I do it many morning and have it with my toast. I could never give up food, it would lead to binge eating for me. As long as you are getting your calories then have at it.0
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Well, you wanted your fellow MFP'ers to weigh in, so here's my take on it: You have two options - either you support him (hesitantly, it seems from what you've written) or you don't. If you support him in his decision to try this, along with your guidelines about eating with the family and being a role model to them, then you will have helped your marriage relationship a bit on the positive side, and your hubby can learn for himself about what works and what doesn't work. On the other hand, if you do NOT support him, it becomes a wedge in your relationship - maybe a small one, but still it will be there, and could build into something bigger later... Just my initial thoughts on that...
Beyond that, I've seen and tried the juicing. I LOVE it, but I have slacked off a bit lately (I'm in the process of moving, and very busy). I did a bit of research, read a WHOLE lot about thoughts on "dieting" and eating clean and so on, and I want to share the most important things I've found to be helpful to me. I saw the "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" movie with friends who were impressed and wanted to try it. It wouldn't hurt you to see it, and you would at least know why it's appealing to your hubby. The transformations are incredible, and Joe Cross really did get off his meds and looks very healthy, as did the other people in the movie. I have not had rashes, or migraines, nor am I on any meds. The reasons why I tried it, and love it and am still doing it are many:
1. I have trouble with the joints in my thumb and knee joints, and this helps alleviate the pain I experience (which leads me to believe I'm not normally getting all the nutrients I need in my daily intake of food).
2. I would not normally consume that many veggies in any given day.
3. I wanted to find out (for myself) what works for me - and what DOESN'T work for me.
4. I have been quite sheltered in my years growing up in regards to veggies - my dad would only eat corn, green beans, and an occasional salad - so for years, that was all I knew or had tried in regards to eating veggies. So this was an opportunity for me to try some new foods, new vegetables, new flavors.
After trying this, I have to say that I have felt better and more healthy than I _EVER_ have ! ! I haven't gone all out with it, though, and have only been doing it as a supplement. But it has made a drastic difference in how healthy I feel. Therefore, I feel that juicing is very beneficial, and better and more natural than taking a processed vitamin - a pill - that may or may not be absorbed by my body.
I think you're right on with the idea that fad diets are not the way to go, and that maybe the focus should be more on a lifestyle change. That's the only way we'll come out of all of this with results that will last. The juicing could be a fad, or not - depends on how you look at it. I'm using the juicing as a "supplement", and getting awesome nutritional value from it, as I would not normally eat veggies or the quantity of vegetable fiber or even THINK of consuming that much for breakfast (or lunch!) - it's just not what I'm accustomed to. I love PROTEIN - and have been raised as a "meat and potatoes" kind of gal ! ! LOL ! ! So the juicing has been a wonderful benefit for me. It just may be a wonderful benefit for you, too, if you decide to try it. So if you could get your hubby to eat veggies for breakfast and lunch, maybe that would be a better option. But if that is out of the question, then juicing, IMHO, would be a way to get some awesome nutrition for your hubby and keep him healthy.
One of the most impressive videos I saw was on youtube, and it was a lecture by a professor/MD who works with obese children. Here's the link, if you have the time to sit through it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM - it's about an hour and a half long. It's called "Sugar, the bitter truth", and he talks about sugar/fructose and how the body processes it (and stores it). He gives evidence that the body processes sugars into a "poison" of sorts, and can flush it out only with fiber/fibrous matter. That's why we usually find fructose naturally in fruits, that have LOTS of fiber, which help us to process and flush the toxins out of our system. If we consume sugars without fiber - as in fruit drinks, soda, candy, etc., then our bodies have the toxins as byproducts of the fructose/sugar, and it stores it as "fat" - hence the obesity epidemic in this country ! ! It's a very informative video, although very long. And it made me rethink my ideas about eating sugar/sugary foods as well as eating more fiber/fruits and veggies. I also had an "AHA!" moment - thinking about all the times I've "dieted" in the past and would actually lose weight, only to get sick and be derailed for a time. I was thinking it would stand to reason that if my body had stored the toxins in my fat cells, and I began to drop my caloric intake, thus forcing my body to draw from the fat cells that contained the toxins - well, NO WONDER I was getting sick ! ! My body would have been flooded with the toxins ! ! And, like I said before, I'm more of a meat and potatoes girl, and didn't eat many veggies/fibrous foods - so no wonder I would get sick... I have since changed my thoughts and eating habits, and the juicing has helped me too.
Anyway, hope that helps you a little. Sorry it's so long. I'm hoping you will support your hubby in this... :flowerforyou:0
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