TDEE-20% Still seems too HIGH! So now what?!?
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That isn't too high, especially if you're working out as much as you say you are... and yeah, netting 1300 (I'm assuming you aren't eating back exercise cals) is too low for what you're doing.
Edited to add: I just checked your diary, you aren't eating back your exercise calories. You're supposed to. That's how the system is designed.
The MFP numbers and TDEE - 20% aren't that different if you do it right.
Maybe misunderstood, but this seems wrong to me.
When you use TDEE you DO NOT eat back exercise calories.
OP, eat at your TDEE-20% for 4 weeks and see how it goes. I bet you will be very happy with your results (Put the scale away until then because sometimes we gain first then lose it again when we switch to TDE method).
What he means is that if you use the MFP method correctly (eating back exercise calories) your gross should be close to the TDEE method number.
For me, MFP would give me 1420 plus exercise calories
TDEE method would give me 1600, no exercise calories. Since I'm working out and burning around 150 calories per day they're really very close.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.
Interesting discussion considering you only started logging within the last week. How were you tracking calories before?0 -
Hello All,
Ok straight to the point, I calculated my TDEE and subtracted 20%. But it still seems kinda high and I'm trying to lose weight. Here it is:
Female 32 years old
"5.0"
190lbs and I exercise about 5-6 days a week
TDEE: 2492 minus 20%= 1993
I'm staying around 1300 calories per day, is that too low? If so.......Now what?!?!!???!!??
If I were you, I would eat around 1,800 calories a day (no eating of exercise calories back), make sure you are really accurate in tracking (weigh your food and measure liquids) and then see how your weight loss is over about 4 weeks. If your results are not as predicted/expected, adjust up or down as appropriate.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.
Interesting discussion considering you only started logging within the last week. How were you tracking calories before?
Oh no Whatever would we do wihout computers?! There is this thing called a pen and paper, It's ancient and outdated I know, but they still work.0 -
there ya go. Bolded to help.Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.
Interesting discussion considering you only started logging within the last week. How were you tracking calories before?
Oh no Whatever would we do wihout computers?! There is this thing called a pen and paper, It's ancient and outdated I know, but they still work.0 -
Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.
Interesting discussion considering you only started logging within the last week. How were you tracking calories before?
Oh no Whatever would we do wihout computers?! There is this thing called a pen and paper, It's ancient and outdated I know, but they still work.
You are funny!
And when I say funny, I mean really rather aggressive and defensive all at the same time. Ask a simple question, and I get attitude. Have fun with your 'diet'. :flowerforyou:0 -
there ya go. Bolded to help.Personally I know for a fact that my TDEE is waaaaay off. I'm a writer so I spend about 97% of the day sitting down typing. I know I barely burn 1000 calories doing my daily activity (thats not including exercise). SO I dont use TDEE and BMR. I try to eat only as much as I exercise in the day. So if I burn 1000, I will eat 1000. Its hard but it is working for me. I don't feel tired or malnourished.
Please do not post this extremely dangerous and borderline insane opinion as "fact". What you have posted isn't even close to fact and is a terrible thing to promote. Netting zero calories a day for any decent length of time is going to result in some serious health problems long-term. I bet you will be losing your hair inside of a month. Talk to someone that knows what they're doing instead of spreading misinformation around on these forums - PLEASE.
I didn't state anything as a fact. I said that it is what is working for me.
Interesting discussion considering you only started logging within the last week. How were you tracking calories before?
Oh no Whatever would we do wihout computers?! There is this thing called a pen and paper, It's ancient and outdated I know, but they still work.
Completely connecting the dots to highlight (part of) the issue.0 -
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Doesn't the poster eating low cals mean they eat 1000 if the burn 1000 (in a 24 hour period) not 1000 through calories burned from workouts? If it's this then they are netting 1000 not 0 as it appears to be in the way the post is written.0
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Doesn't the poster eating low cals mean they eat 1000 if the burn 1000 (in a 24 hour period) not 1000 through calories burned from workouts? If it's this then they are netting 1000 not 0 as it appears to be in the way the post is written.
Netting a 1000 is still bad but no. Tl;dr, she's eating 1000cals a day or less. Supposedly her doctor told her 600cals was okay.0 -
Doesn't the poster eating low cals mean they eat 1000 if the burn 1000 (in a 24 hour period) not 1000 through calories burned from workouts? If it's this then they are netting 1000 not 0 as it appears to be in the way the post is written.
Netting a 1000 is still bad but no. Tl;dr, she's eating 1000cals a day or less. Supposedly her doctor told her 600cals was okay.
But only on days where she exercised for 600 calories.0 -
Doesn't the poster eating low cals mean they eat 1000 if the burn 1000 (in a 24 hour period) not 1000 through calories burned from workouts? If it's this then they are netting 1000 not 0 as it appears to be in the way the post is written.
If you look at her diary, she does tend to eat the exact same amount that she logs as exercise and no more than that.
Thursday for example
Logged intake: 1017
Logged exercise: 1009
Remaining calories : 13720 -
...I just checked your diary, you aren't eating back your exercise calories. You're supposed to. That's how the system is designed.
The MFP numbers and TDEE - 20% aren't that different if you do it right.
This!
Not this...people are confusing two completely different methods. Yes, they should be similar when it's all said and done, but you do NOT eat back exercise calories with TDEE method...exercise is included in your activity estimation.
MFP is a NEAT method calculator...thus exercise is NOT included in your activity level and is extra activity that needs fueling...thus you DO eat back exercise calories with the MFP (NEAT) method.
As an example...
TDEE - 20% = 2150
MFP goal = 1,850 + exercise (300 per day on avg) = 2,150 calories0 -
...I just checked your diary, you aren't eating back your exercise calories. You're supposed to. That's how the system is designed.
The MFP numbers and TDEE - 20% aren't that different if you do it right.
This!
Not this...people are confusing two completely different methods. Yes, they should be similar when it's all said and done, but you do NOT eat back exercise calories with TDEE method...exercise is included in your activity estimation.
MFP is a NEAT method calculator...thus exercise is NOT included in your activity level and is extra activity that needs fueling...thus you DO eat back exercise calories with the MFP (NEAT) method.
As an example...
TDEE - 20% = 2150
MFP goal = 1,850 + exercise (300 per day on avg) = 2,150 calories
You just explained the same thing the posts you quoted were saying...(although granted your post did a better job of explaining it). The *end results* of the two methods are very similar (and, assuming consistent daily exercise, would be entirely identical).
Edit: because randomly wrong words aardvark bad.0 -
I weight the same
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...I just checked your diary, you aren't eating back your exercise calories. You're supposed to. That's how the system is designed.
The MFP numbers and TDEE - 20% aren't that different if you do it right.
This!
Not this...people are confusing two completely different methods. Yes, they should be similar when it's all said and done, but you do NOT eat back exercise calories with TDEE method...exercise is included in your activity estimation.
MFP is a NEAT method calculator...thus exercise is NOT included in your activity level and is extra activity that needs fueling...thus you DO eat back exercise calories with the MFP (NEAT) method.
As an example...
TDEE - 20% = 2150
MFP goal = 1,850 + exercise (300 per day on avg) = 2,150 calories
You just explained the same thing the posts you quoted were saying...(although granted your post did a better job of explaining it). The *end results* of the two methods are very similar (and, assuming consistent daily exercise, would be entirely identical).
Edit: because randomly wrong words aardvark bad.
No kiddin. MFP (whatever it gives you + exercise calories eaten back) = (TDEE-20%)
Nowhere did I say anything about eating back cals on the TDEE method. Whichever way you go, the numbers are effectively the same, one is just less math.
....cause I hate math.
ETA: Also, I put the responsibility of actually reading about the TDEE method to the poster. If they quote that something isn't working for them, it's on them to have done the research to find that TDEE doesn't involve eating ex. calories back. If they use words, I expect them to know what they mean.0 -
I'm confused... seems like my TDEE on other sites where you plug in the information is way higher than here on MFP.
Female
36
195.4 (cause apparently I gained 2.5 lbs over the weekend, for no apparent reason)
5'1"
5 morning workouts for 30 minutes each, plus the gym tu & thu
My base calories on here are 1300 plus my burned calories (about 235 calories m-f not counting the gym) but when I go to other sites my TDEE is about 2407 (depending on the site) so less 20% is 2006. So what is it, apprx 1525 or 2006?
My weekly average for last week was just about 1100 net, so maybe that's why I gained, cause I didn't eat enough???... but still how many calories am I supposed to eat, what MFP says (with all my workout calories, just some of my work out calories) or my TDEE -20%?0 -
I'm confused... seems like my TDEE on other sites where you plug in the information is way higher than here on MFP.
Female
36
195.4 (cause apparently I gained 2.5 lbs over the weekend, for no apparent reason)
5'1"
5 morning workouts for 30 minutes each, plus the gym tu & thu
My base calories on here are 1300 plus my burned calories (about 235 calories m-f not counting the gym) but when I go to other sites my TDEE is about 2407 (depending on the site) so less 20% is 2006. So what is it, apprx 1525 or 2006?
My weekly average for last week was just about 1100 net, so maybe that's why I gained, cause I didn't eat enough???... but still how many calories am I supposed to eat, what MFP says (with all my workout calories, just some of my work out calories) or my TDEE -20%?
When you did your goals on MFP, did you tell it that you wanted to lose 2lb/week?0 -
1.5 lbs per week.0
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1.5 lbs per week.
Try 1lb or .5lb, and I bet with your exercise calories you'll be closer to your TDEE numbers.0
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