Exclusionary clothing stores.

Don't get me started on the petite thing. Gah. I see so many women around my height who clearly wear a 14 or a 16, yet "petite " stops at 12 or even 10 in most stores. It's not that I have a problem with just shopping in stores that carry my size, it's that they are limited to JC Penney and.... JC Penney. Not the most exciting clothes, either. Also the makers of petite clothing sometimes don't believe that short girls have shoulders. I can get buy shopping for non-petites in dresses and shirts and @%%# capri pants, but I'm sick of them.

I once ordered a dress from LL Bean in a size 16 petite, and the costumer service guy kept repeating "I don't believe we have any in that large size, m'am." My husband and I still laugh about this whenever I go shopping.

I can't wait to be a size 12 again, when I will officially exist to most clothing manufacturers.

Being a petite 5'2" (short arms, legs, & torso), 90% of all stores are exclusionary to me.

It's one reason why I'm starting to sew my own clothes. The other reason being I can't stand to wear polyester & other man-made fabrics. More and more the only clothes I can manage to find in a petite size are made of that dreaded man-made crap.

I am totally there with you... on all fronts (I am also 5'2")... I just want some cute flattering clothes... I need to make time to learn how to sew as well... It has been on my to do list for a few years now.

A lot of clothes I can't wear, because I don't have the waist for it... at all.

*lol* Or they think we are all squares! I HATE shopping for clothes (even at Petite Sophisticate which just screams middle aged woman) because they all make me look shorter and wider.... as if I needed THAT to happen. Every once in a while I can luck out and find a fitted shirt (which flatters me the best because it "creates" a waist).

Don't get me started on the petite thing. Gah. I see so many women around my height who clearly wear a 14 or a 16, yet "petite " stops at 12 or even 10 in most stores. It's not that I have a problem with just shopping in stores that carry my size, it's that they are limited to JC Penney and.... JC Penney. Not the most exciting clothes, either. Also the makers of petite clothing sometimes don't believe that short girls have shoulders. I can get buy shopping for non-petites in dresses and shirts and @%%# capri pants, but I'm sick of them.

I once ordered a dress from LL Bean in a size 16 petite, and the costumer service guy kept repeating "I don't believe we have any in that large size, m'am." My husband and I still laugh about this whenever I go shopping.

I can't wait to be a size 12 again, when I will officially exist to most clothing manufacturers.

Being a petite 5'2" (short arms, legs, & torso), 90% of all stores are exclusionary to me.

It's one reason why I'm starting to sew my own clothes. The other reason being I can't stand to wear polyester & other man-made fabrics. More and more the only clothes I can manage to find in a petite size are made of that dreaded man-made crap.

I am totally there with you... on all fronts (I am also 5'2")... I just want some cute flattering clothes... I need to make time to learn how to sew as well... It has been on my to do list for a few years now.

A lot of clothes I can't wear, because I don't have the waist for it... at all.

*lol* Or they think we are all squares! I HATE shopping for clothes (even at Petite Sophisticate which just screams middle aged woman) because they all make me look shorter and wider.... as if I needed THAT to happen. Every once in a while I can luck out and find a fitted shirt (which flatters me the best because it "creates" a waist).

I went into a boutique just to basically "window shop" (I was waiting for a friend who was shopping), I had no intention of buying anything. One of the workers noticed me admiring a dress and told me that the dress wouldn't fit me because the biggest size they carried was a size 4. I lost 40 pounds and I'm a size 6. I am at my smallest and I feel great, then to hear that, made me angry. I didn't care that they didn't carriy my size, but I thought it was rude for her to make a comment the way she did.

This all went different ways!

As a person highly interested in marketing; there's no way that all of the stores could make all of the sizes "needed". For as much as I think Abercrombie "dude" is a ****, it is good practice to cater to certain markets. Actually, the fundamentals of business marketing is identifying your target market for your product. Junior stores sell junior clothing. For those who didnt like the Chinese and Mexican food reference - think of another store - The Children's Place? Carter's? Baby Gap? I doubt ANY of us are shopping there. I would hardly consider it "exclusionary" because they don't have my size (XL). It's a specialty store, NOT a department store. Therefore they only cater to children, just like Rue, Forever 21, Abercrombie, and so forth cater to HS and college age. Production costs would be through the roof if you made a larger range of sizes for everyone. The reasoning behind Abercrombie is a little off-color, but as for the others, there's plenty of selection, variety and sizes that cater to a larger mass of 15-25 year olds.

On another note: I'm super excited to shop at target in their junior section for dresses and such. Last time I bough anything it was an XXL top in maternity (I was pregnant but 11 mo after my second kid - I'm just now getting back to some sense of normal)!

I think the real issue is the girl who probably just needs more training in customer service. She shouldn't have offered up that the sizing was small unless you asked. She may have thought she was saving you time, too. Maybe she didnt realize. And it's only one person, not the company that said that to you (which also makes her ignorant to the fact that she's the immediate face of the company and should be smiles and helpful. And basically only ask the questions that are asked.) but I think you should maybe reevaluate the situation and maybe give it a second chance. If she really is rude to customers, then she probably won't be there for you to go all Julia Roberts pretty woman on her bum anyway!

I do, but then I have a toddler, so I am sure I'm not who you were referencing there...


edited, because I forgot to put a comment in.

I went into Torrid (a plus sized clothing store) a few weeks ago in hopes of finding a bathing suit. There was this girl at the front and she immediately approached me as I was looking through the racks. This girl was triple my size and she said "sweetie just wanna let you know that our sizes run really small, so you will probably have to go up a size or two." LOL. She gave me a dirty look and walked off. I didn't even bother looking. I gave her a "who do you think you are" kinda look, smiled, and then I walked right out of that store. It was kinda hurtful but then I laughed about it at the end. I try the best I can to laugh at ignorant people.

Their sizes run very small. Sorry you got such a stupid attitude though. I hate people like that how do they know you werent in there shopping for a present or looking at the earrings. Well I can believe Torrid will never get a dime from you guess they dont value your money.

Would someone not have to buy something a size larger even for a friend or will they magically fit someone at their posted size? Also, a good salesperson would probably be able to tell that someone was not looking at the earrings when they approached a customer looking through the racks. Some people just seem to seek something to get offended by.....

Huh? have you ever shopped with a woman even if they arent buying anything they are shuffling the racks. She has every right to be offended by a snarky comment and rude customer service. What happened to, "Hi Welcome to Torrid, I'm Beck, let me know if you need any help and I'll be more than happy to assist you (big smile!)" *see this is why I kicked booty in sales. I'd let the manager know you arent happy though or send a corporate email. Her money her time.

Yeah, I'm not sure that any woman seeks being offended.....if that's what you were trying to say. I didn't go to the bathing suit rack to be told that I can't wear their clothes unless I go up a size. I went because I wanted something to wear to the beach. In any case, she didn't even give me a chance to actually try on the swim suit. It's not like I was in the changing room and asked for her opinion. I was just standing there and the lady came up to me. In any case, the point I was trying to make is that there are rude workers everywhere. And if someone is rude, I will walk right out of the door or talk to a manager.

I don't understand this one at allllllll :huh: All women are aware that sizes differ depending on the brand/store and this goes for shirts and pants and dresses and SHOES. I like to try everything on first but sometimes you don't have time and I would love it if an associate told me hey the sizes run really small so make sure you get the right size for you. That isn't calling me fat or skinny or big-footed or tall...that's just being helpful so I don't have to come back to the store and return it later. RIght?! :flowerforyou:

I went into Torrid (a plus sized clothing store) a few weeks ago in hopes of finding a bathing suit. There was this girl at the front and she immediately approached me as I was looking through the racks. This girl was triple my size and she said "sweetie just wanna let you know that our sizes run really small, so you will probably have to go up a size or two." LOL. She gave me a dirty look and walked off. I didn't even bother looking. I gave her a "who do you think you are" kinda look, smiled, and then I walked right out of that store. It was kinda hurtful but then I laughed about it at the end. I try the best I can to laugh at ignorant people.

Anyone ever have a similar experience at a clothing store?

I keep hearing how Victoria's Secret has the cutest and softest pjs but I went in there and they didn't have a thing I could wear. I finally got the attention of one of the clerks and asked her "Where's the section with clothes for me?". She just looked at me and said "We only sell clothes to women here." Pffft!

I'm so tired of being excluded because of my gender. Didn't we settle all this sexist exclusionary stuff years ago? Apparently not. Just to show her she wasn't the boss of me I grabbed a black thong and when she rung up the sale I quietly told her "I'm wearing this tonight." Ha ha! Who's laughing now lady?

I went into Torrid (a plus sized clothing store) a few weeks ago in hopes of finding a bathing suit. There was this girl at the front and she immediately approached me as I was looking through the racks. This girl was triple my size and she said "sweetie just wanna let you know that our sizes run really small, so you will probably have to go up a size or two." LOL. She gave me a dirty look and walked off. I didn't even bother looking. I gave her a "who do you think you are" kinda look, smiled, and then I walked right out of that store. It was kinda hurtful but then I laughed about it at the end. I try the best I can to laugh at ignorant people.

Their sizes run very small. Sorry you got such a stupid attitude though. I hate people like that how do they know you werent in there shopping for a present or looking at the earrings. Well I can believe Torrid will never get a dime from you guess they dont value your money.

Would someone not have to buy something a size larger even for a friend or will they magically fit someone at their posted size? Also, a good salesperson would probably be able to tell that someone was not looking at the earrings when they approached a customer looking through the racks. Some people just seem to seek something to get offended by.....

Huh? have you ever shopped with a woman even if they arent buying anything they are shuffling the racks. She has every right to be offended by a snarky comment and rude customer service. What happened to, "Hi Welcome to Torrid, I'm Beck, let me know if you need any help and I'll be more than happy to assist you (big smile!)" *see this is why I kicked booty in sales. I'd let the manager know you arent happy though or send a corporate email. Her money her time.

Yeah, I'm not sure that any woman seeks being offended.....if that's what you were trying to say. I didn't go to the bathing suit rack to be told that I can't wear their clothes unless I go up a size. I went because I wanted something to wear to the beach. In any case, she didn't even give me a chance to actually try on the swim suit. It's not like I was in the changing room and asked for her opinion. I was just standing there and the lady came up to me. In any case, the point I was trying to make is that there are rude workers everywhere. And if someone is rude, I will walk right out of the door or talk to a manager.

I don't understand this one at allllllll :huh: All women are aware that sizes differ depending on the brand/store and this goes for shirts and pants and dresses and SHOES. I like to try everything on first but sometimes you don't have time and I would love it if an associate told me hey the sizes run really small so make sure you get the right size for you. That isn't calling me fat or skinny or big-footed or tall...that's just being helpful so I don't have to come back to the store and return it later. RIght?! :flowerforyou:

I went into a boutique just to basically "window shop" (I was waiting for a friend who was shopping), I had no intention of buying anything. One of the workers noticed me admiring a dress and told me that the dress wouldn't fit me because the biggest size they carried was a size 4. I lost 40 pounds and I'm a size 6. I am at my smallest and I feel great, then to hear that, made me angry. I didn't care that they didn't carriy my size, but I thought it was rude for her to make a comment the way she did.

You thought it was rude that she could tell your size and told you something wouldn't fit before you wasted your time looking for your size?
That was actually helpful - if you had been thinking about buying.

I think you kind of missed the point here (though I like your "its all in how you look at it" attitude ) She was not even thinking of trying it on she was just admiring the dress. She was already looking at it kind of longingly I think KWIM? If she had been searching for her size and then asked for assistance when she could not find it...the comment may have been appropriate. If she had attempted to try on the size four...maybe even then. But to seek her out to tell her she was clearly too big for the dress she was only admiring...kind of screams bad intent to me.

That being said...I do have brands that I love that I will just never fit. The cut of them are made for women that are just built up differently than I am. It doesn't bother me, there are enough brands and styles I love that do fit to feed my need for fashion. Same thing with the stores that carry those brands. No sweat off my back. Just don't be rude to me or anyone else I know. My best friend was once stopped in FRONT of a regular sized store and told "we don't sell plus sized clothes". She let the person know that she knew that...but was coming for earrings as she had been buying accessories there for years...then she turned around and left. She's lost 40 pounds and she's never gone back.

My only issue is with the exclusionary sales staff. It's fine if you don't sell my size, just don't judge me because of it.