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    On a side note, I am pretty sure that I am having a hot flash right now.
  • Posts: 1,748 Member
    This thread has turned into a "whose **** is bigger" discussion, apparently. I'm out.
  • Posts: 1,748 Member
    On a side note, I am pretty sure that I am having a hot flash right now.

    I usually stick my head in the freezer when that happens. It helps.
  • Posts: 2,486 Member
    Too much testosterone up in here...I'm sceeeered and need hugs.

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    I know my HUGS post got lost in the sword fight.
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    I usually stick my head in the freezer when that happens. It helps.

    Good idea. The bonus is there is caramel ice cream in the freezer.
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    Good idea. The bonus is there is caramel ice cream in the freezer.

    Even better! Get two birds with one stone.
  • Posts: 429 Member
    My fav....which almost got me killed was a semi who couldn't wait a whole 5 seconds for me to reaccelerate after having to slow down for another semi that was turning and blew past me on the right hand shoulder at 60+ mph, lost control on the loose gravel and almost hit me with the trailer when he fishtailed right into the ditch.
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    pay attention next time you're in traffic and you're crying about the guy taking advantage of a wide open lane that goes on for 2 miles to get past you. if he is in fact heading down to the end of the lane and jumping back in to traffic without hesitation into the first available gap, he isn't distracted. if he's taking 3 weeks to merge back in, begging for someone let him in, then he's either asleep or on his cell phone.

    I'm not trolling, I commute an hour and a half each day. Want to know what I consider back road ethics?

    1. Creating a road block with the car next to you for miles on end
    2. Camping out in the left lane with someone coming up behind you. I don't care how fast you're going, if someone is coming up faster than you, you move. I'm not always the fastest down the highway, I move.
    3. Talking on your cellphone or texting, at any time except a solid red light up until the point the other light turns yellow
    4. Not having a clue what is going on around you
    5. Drifting into the opposing lane or not using your indicators
    6. Running red lights
    7. Leaving 3 car lengths in front of your car and not matching the rate of acceleration of the car ahead of you (real reason for highway congestion)
    8. Leaving 3 car lengths in front you and then tapping your brakes for absolutely no reason
    9. Dump trucks spilling gravel all over the road

    If every single driver on the road focused on getting to their destination as efficiently as possible, we wouldn't need to keep adding lane after lane to our highways. Instead, everybody is worried about their phone conversations, their book, and every other distraction that you can possibly imagine. So like I said, how about you focus on the road as a whole and stop worrying about being skipped

    Oh my god. You're one of those guys. I never thought I would have occasion to communicate with one of you, so, apologies if this is just a big dump, but:

    Who the hell do you think you are? So arrogant, so self-serving!

    How do you know your amazing spidey sense reaction times (DOUBTFUL) are faster than a heart attack someone could have on the road? Or a tire blowing out?

    There are older people on the road, and yeah, maybe, people on phones, distracted, what have you - so what? If you hit them, chances are both of you will wind up hurt or dead, no matter how right you think you are.

    And. Suppose you and I are unlucky enough to be on the same road. I'm supposed to trust YOUR instincts to prevent MY death?

    Maybe you're fine, you get your lane the way you want. MAYBE, someone behind you freaks out at your psychotic driving and causes harm to someone else.

    Ten years ago, a jerk like you caused the driver of a SEMI to rear-end my car. It was totalled. The insurance company said it was a miracle that my friend in the back seat didn't die.

    Man, I want your license number. Seriously. I bet you're a hazard in all kinds of ways.
  • Posts: 1,805 Member
    I bet you drive one of those big eff off trucks with massive wheels, too. Ugh.
  • Posts: 251 Member
    Fart in their general direction or point at them and scream "A pox upon you, you unethical road penishead."


    I got the Monty Python quote! Perfect!
  • Posts: 131 Member
    I don't expect you to trust me at all. I expect you to be a good enough driver to anticipate my moves and protect your own self. If you're not always anticipating what each and every driver around you is going to do, you're falling asleep at the wheel. That is what I've been advocating this whole time!!

    I want you to be able to assess the situation and react accordingly. I know when the driver ahead of me is going to switch lanes? How? Look for the cues such as drifting, looking over their shoulder, etc. You should be able to tell at any given moment the closing speed between each and every lane of traffic (are they moving slower or faster in relation to each other). Reading the road is the most important traffic skill, and so few people are adept at it. I'm not saying I"m a perfect driver, the difference is, I usually have a pretty good idea about when I f*** up.

    If someone slams their brakes when I switch into the lane in front of them because they didn't notice traffic on their left/right was moving faster and they were being an obstacle, and didn't notice me passing them, that is their own fault. Why should I care about those people?

    And as far as old people are concerned, it is my solid belief that every driver should be to pass a cognitive and skills based exam every couple of years. I've seen old people that hold their own, and way many more old people that should never be allowed to drive again, no pity. Too often, meekness and poor driving are championed in the name of safety and defensive driving.

    Who do I think I am? Who do YOU think you are? If you don't care about wasting away your life in a car, that's your problem. I'm going to get where I'm going with purpose. And to the OP, if you're too out of it to know the roads you travel on to minimize your travel time in every way possible, then you don't have the right to complain about perfectly legal maneuvers.
  • Posts: 1,805 Member
    I don't expect you to trust me at all. I expect you to be a good enough driver to anticipate my moves and protect your own self. If you're not always anticipating what each and every driver around you is going to do, you're falling asleep at the wheel. That is what I've been advocating this whole time!!

    I want you to be able to assess the situation and react accordingly. I know when the driver ahead of me is going to switch lanes? How? Look for the cues such as drifting, looking over their shoulder, etc. You should be able to tell at any given moment the closing speed between each and every lane of traffic (are they moving slower or faster in relation to each other). Reading the road is the most important traffic skill, and so few people are adept at it. I'm not saying I"m a perfect driver, the difference is, I usually have a pretty good idea about when I f*** up.

    If someone slams their brakes when I switch into the lane in front of them because they didn't notice traffic on their left/right was moving faster and they were being an obstacle, and didn't notice me passing them, that is their own fault. Why should I care about those people?

    And as far as old people are concerned, it is my solid belief that every driver should be to pass a cognitive and skills based exam every couple of years. I've seen old people that hold their own, and way many more old people that should never be allowed to drive again, no pity. Too often, meekness and poor driving are championed in the name of safety and defensive driving.

    Who do I think I am? Who do YOU think you are? If you don't care about wasting away your life in a car, that's your problem. I'm going to get where I'm going with purpose. And to the OP, if you're too out of it to know the roads you travel on to minimize your travel time in every way possible, then you don't have the right to complain about perfectly legal maneuvers.

    So according to you, and CONTRARY TO REALITY, every imperfect driver should be taken off the road. Also, you don't care if your amazing driving technique kills someone. Got it.

    Also: I didn't say, "someone slams on their brakes", I said "a tire gets blown out". Not everything happens because of people. You can't predict everything.
  • Posts: 131 Member
    Every distracted, unaware, complacent driver should absolutely be taken off the road. Since that's not happening, I'll continue to work my way around them, because it is unequivocally my belief that they are more of a menace on the road than I am.

    You know how many times I've been merged onto by someone on their cell phone? Like I said, I know my driving isn't perfect, nor is it amazing. But I bet you that at any given time I am more aware of what is going on around me on the road than you "defensive drivers."

    I don't have a death wish, and contrary to your belief, I'm not out to kill anyone. Now if someone gets themselves killed by their own incompetence (a.k.a. distracted, unaware, complacent, etc.) then that is their problem, because i guarantee you that it won't be because I hit them.
  • Posts: 1,805 Member
    I didn't say you were out to kill anyone. You are clearly indifferent to the idea of someone dying as a result of your driving, though. Like my friend almost did as a result of the driving of someone like you.
  • Posts: 131 Member
    i'm still not understanding how some jerk got a semi to rear end you? did you slam your brakes causing the semi to rear end you? were you the impervious one to the conditions around you?

    if there is a semi tailgating you, guess what, get out of the way!
  • Posts: 1,805 Member
    i'm still not understanding how some jerk got a semi to rear end you? did you slam your brakes causing the semi to rear end you? were you the impervious one to the conditions around you?

    if there is a semi tailgating you, guess what, get out of the way!

    I was in one of those long merging lanes, in stopped traffic. The merging lane was stopped, the highway was stopped, no one on the highway was letting anyone on. Total parking lot.

    Some guy in a truck zoomed down the side of the merging lane (not even on the road proper), and the semi driver swerved to avoid being hit by zoomey mczoomerson, which led the semi to hit us.

    (There was nowhere for me to go to, in this postulated getting out of the way I should have been doing)
  • Posts: 703 Member
    Go at least the speed limit. Drives me up a wall when some driver is 5-10 MPH under the speed limit.
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    I was in one of those long merging lanes, in stopped traffic. The merging lane was stopped, the highway was stopped, no one on the highway was letting anyone on. Total parking lot.

    Some guy in a truck zoomed down the side of the merging lane (not even on the road proper), and the semi driver swerved to avoid being hit by zoomey mczoomerson, which led the semi to hit us.

    alright, totally different thing. Never did I ever say anything about driving off road. If traffic is stopped, I still don't understand the situation with the semi, but ok, whatever.

    I do NOT condone reckless driving. I will not switch more than one lane of traffic at a time (I count to five before consecutive lane changes). There are some who you will group me in the same category as me who really do have no regard for anyone else on the road

    I stand by belief that the most dangerous drivers on the road are still those that have no clue what is going on around them. All I'm trying to do is get to where I'm going as quickly and efficiently as possible.
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    alright, totally different thing. Never did I ever say anything about driving off road. If traffic is stopped, I still don't understand the situation with the semi, but ok, whatever.

    I do NOT condone reckless driving. I will not switch more than one lane of traffic at a time (I count to five before consecutive lane changes). There are some who you will group me in the same category as me who really do have no regard for anyone else on the road

    I stand by belief that the most dangerous drivers on the road are still those that have no clue what is going on around them. All I'm trying to do is get to where I'm going as quickly and efficiently as possible.

    The road ahead of us was stopped - as I recall, there was some clear space behind us. The semi driver was going a little fast too, and probably not attending to his sight line.

    I'm not saying you're wrong that the old, the professional drivers who are worn out on their 48th hour, the ordinary commuters who are just kind of tired, whoever, can be dangerous. I am saying that *given* that fact, and the unpredictability of a range of other kinds of events, your style of driving increases the risk to others, indirectly*. And you are saying you don't care about that, if I understand you.

    *Because, this semi driver, or another one, could easily have freaked out if the guy were in an exit lane. I've seen people react in all kinds of ways to the aggressive driving you describe.
  • Posts: 1,018 Member
    Aggressive driving is as dangerous as driving under the influence. This driver is in every sense of the word impaired and should be punished the same.

    "Approximately 6,800,000 crashes occur in the United States each year; a substantial number are estimated to be caused by aggressive driving. " http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/aggressive/aggproplanner/page05.htm

    Aggressive drivers are ineffectual and have feelings of impotence.They lack the ability to cope. They cannot control their emotions; and the anonymity of being in a car gives these bully drivers a false sense of control and power that they lack outside the car.

    Consider what a car provides for this type of bully....anonymity, power, and a means to flee.

    The aggressive driver is nothing more than a hyena. He would never try to behave this way one on one, man to man.

    Anyone who bullies lacks self esteem and is a coward.
  • Posts: 756 Member
    I'm from Jersey, right outside of NYC, there are no road ethics and aggressive driving is the only way to get anywhere.

    And if you think anyone is going to be POLITE well then you should not be in Jersey.
  • Posts: 1,024 Member
    Or people who see the Right lane ends 1 mile sign and stays in the right line right up until it ends and then expects someone to let them in....
    OMG ths ^^^^^ makes me so :mad:
    I'm from Jersey, right outside of NYC, there are no road ethics and aggressive driving is the only way to get anywhere.

    And if you think anyone is going to be POLITE well then you should not be in Jersey.
    There IS a difference between being aggressive and being douche! If you are NOT aggressive here in the ATL you will get run over, if you're a douche here in the ATL, well, you will probably still get run over - deservidly so.
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    I'm from Jersey, right outside of NYC, there are no road ethics and aggressive driving is the only way to get anywhere.

    And if you think anyone is going to be POLITE well then you should not be in Jersey.

    I often drive in many cities; Newark, Trenton, Philly, DC, St. Louis, Tulsa, Chicago, Ok City, Boston, Atlanta, DFW and I often in Houston. In a city with congested turnpikes you must be assertive, but that is not the same as being aggressive.

    I get very frustrated with the inconsiderate and clueless drivers who park in the hammer lane. I really do prefer to drive among the assertive drivers cuz I know what to expect.

    Ive learned that a little consideration often goes a long way.
  • Posts: 59 Member
    road ethics? You mean etiquette?
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    I drive 45 minutes (on a good day ) to work and home on So Cal freeways. I just cant let sheet bother me. I just say eff it and keep driving. :glasses:
  • Posts: 869 Member
    Too much testosterone up in here...I'm sceeeered and need hugs.

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    (((Hugs)))) shush dont be skeered, it will be alright.. there there:flowerforyou:
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    I'm one of those guys. Not only do I NOT care what you think of my driving, I HATE the fact you drive like a scared little ... I don't even know. How about you worry about your own driving, improve your situational awareness on the road, and drive like you actually want to get wherever you're going. By the way, I only need 3 inches on either side to jump the gap between you and the car ahead of you (though you might be the type that leaves 3 football fields). It's not wreckless, it's knowing how to drive like you have a clue how to actually handle the 3k pound machine you've been entrusted with.

    You want road ethics, how about you don't add an extra half hour to my commute, mmmk?

    In this case, I'd think people just want people to actually obey the law. Most of what you describe is illegal
  • Posts: 771 Member
    I HATE people who ride my bumper if I am in the left lane, going OVER the speed limit and consistently passing cars in the right lane. I will get over and let anybody going faster than me pass, but not if I'm passing cars myself. You can just hold your horses, so get off my tail.

    HOWEVER, if you are in the left lane, going UNDER the speed limit and not passing anybody on your right, GET THE FRICK OVER or I will ride YOUR tail and push you out of the way! Mkay?
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