PLS POST SUCCESS WITH BARIATRIC SURGERY
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If she's getting the surgery in two weeks, she's gone through all the testing and counseling and there are no other options for her.
Good luck, OP. Sorry, but I don't have any experience or advice.
I meant no disrespect to the op. But I disagree with you, there are always other options outside of an evasive surgery. I started at nearly 380 and I know others who were bigger than I am that did it the hard way with diet and exercise. I considered surgery but then realized it was a huge cop out. YES maybe if she has other issues it felt like the ONLY option but like the person said right above me, at what cost? I know a girl who had LOST A TON of weight with surgery 10 years ago, today she has more than half that weight back and has constant health issues and vitamin issues within her body to where she has a constant picc line at home for vitamin shots. I only asked because if surgery isn't a MUST, then I strongly urge her to explore other options. Thats all.
A huge "cop out" huh? How about a huge "life changing event that forces one to make healthy decisions." Cop out my @$$. This was the hardest thing I have ever gone through. And it's people like you that talk about stuff that you have NEVER experienced, that would turn someone off to it....and it might be the only thing that saves their life. Who the hell do you think you are? I fought for 25+ years to lose weight. And all I did was gain. I was dperessed several times to the point where I had a shotgun in my mouth. I tried to drink myself to death. Everytime I would lose 5 pounds I would gain 10. Who the hell do you think you are? a "Cop out"????? You should be ashamed.
For the first time I can ever remeber, I wake up, refreshed, I have slept all night. No back pain. And I am HAPPY. And it was because I had surgery that forced me to change the way I eat. It's not a magic wand and it doesn't make you skinny overnight. And I still bust my *kitten* in the gym every chance I get. So before you go judging people....take a second....and think.
This!!!! AMEN!!!! I get so sick of people who think it is a "cop out" or an "easy way out" - IT IS HARD - IT IS THE HARDEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE - Surgery IS ONLY A TOOL - you still have to eat right and exercise!!!!!
No surgery is NOT for everyone, but IT IS FOR SOME - SO STOP JUDGING OTHERS!!!!!!!!0 -
Hello. I had my surgery about the same time that you will, July 3, 2003. Wow it is hard to believe that it has been 10 years! My pre surgery weight was 350lbs. (I actually have photos posted on my profile. I believe it was VERY successful because I am still here. I had high blood pressure, sleep apnea, diabetes, and all kinds of joint issues. I'm sure I dont have to tell you because you are two weeks away, that it was a very hard decision to make, but I had tried everything to no avail. My surgeon set my goal weight at 160lbs, never reached it. I got down to 185 in the first year. So we are talking 165lbs gone! However when I did get to the 185 I looked really sickly, felt good, but looked really bad. Your new life after surgery is a lifestyle change in itself. I will not tell you it is all roses, but you are going to constantly learning. You will basically have a new body and will have to learn it all over again. I have so far gained 30 pounds back. I was told by my doctor that this is a normal thing, but of course there were things that I know I had no business doing that contributed. Now I am here to to just get to a healthy BMI. Losing is icing on the cake! So YES my surgery was very successful. I am here with my Husband and 2 sons, healthy, no more medication, and happy. I will always have to work and watch my nutrition but for me it was worth it!.
Oh someone mentioned Obesity.com. The site was a Godsend for me. So much information and motivation from others that know what we now have to do forever! Friend me and keep me posted on your journey and if you have any general questions or concerns don't hesitate to call me!!! Relax, keep positive thoughts! You are already successful!0 -
Hey I just noticed that this is an old post!!!! How are you? What's going on? How's your journey?0
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lol I'm doing good. Im 3 months post op. I am just trying to eat real healthy and work out and do it right.0
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Congrats on doing well!0
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I had an RNY done in December 2008 and lost close to 200 lbs during that year. I recommend connecting with the people on ObesityHelp.com also. They have great support groups. I lost a lot of weight the first yelar. I never reached my goal, but I made significant health strides. Diabetes went away. COPD went away. High blood pressure went away. I think better. I was very very big. I maintained for four years, and then this last year/14 months, I started grazing and gained 40 lbs. YIKES.
So, I am backtracking and have started monitoring myself here. I've lost 18 lbs so far.
So about bariatric surgery...
The first year, you cannot eat. You do not want to eat. Eating hurts. You will have no appetite. And yes, the surgery hurts. Don't be afraid to take your pain meds. You may suffer a bit of depression.
If you eat the wrong foods, you will want to die. Trust me, you will test it, and you will feel it. Don't beat yourself up about it. Everyone pushes the envelope, and everyone suffers for it.
Dumping is not fun. You will never ever ever vomit again like a normal person. It comes back up the same way it went down. Your stomach no longer has bile in it (you digest in your intestines). Ever see a cat hock up a hair ball. That is what you will do. Basically, it is like pooping out of your mouth. You want to avoid this. It is not pleasant. Also, you can get what I refer to as the slimes especially if you eat something wet. You will hock up mouthfuls of slime. Just spit it out. It's beyond gross. You wanted honesty. But on the bright side, you will never heave or vomit nasty bile vomit again.
Things I suggest. Of course do what your doctor says and your nutritionist.
Do not ever drink with meals. It pushes the food through the stoma and can stretch your pouch. If you go to a restaurant and they push you to order a drink, just let them bring water.
Always eat protein first and eat little tiny bites. Remember you are digesting in your intestines now so do as much digesting in your mouth as you can. Otherwise you might find yourself doubled over with pain. Also, be forewarned you will have the nastiest gas you can imagine. Warn your significant other. Definitely get incense for the bathroom.
Eat vegetables after protein.
Avoid carbs if possible.
Do not drink any liquids with calories including juices, Avoid drinks with fake sweeteners in them. Get used to drinking beverages with no sugar. The sweeteners just makes the farting worse.
Do not drink any carbonated beverages -- can do awful things to your pouch. Seriously. DO NOT DRINK CARBONATED DRINKS.
Sugary foods will make your dump which is very unpleasant. Carbs can make you dump. The sickest I ever got was eating spaghetti. Thought I would die. Hoped I would die.
Be prepared to totally reinvent yourself -- that might mean changing jobs, changing friends, moving ... do what you have to do. One of the hardest things I had to learn was that people who loved me had a lot invested in me being fat. your feelings may be hurt. Also, people still act like schmucks when you are thin. The fallacy that people don't like you because you are fat is a fallacy. If they aren't going to like you, they aren't going to like you whether you are fat or a supermodel.
Also, because you will lose weight so fast your self image doesn't always catch up to the reality. Your body may become thin, but your brain may still process that you are fat. This is especially true when buying clothes. You will automatically try to buy clothes that are too big. Wierdest thing for me was when I could buy clothes in a regular store. I still have trouble with that and find myself walking around The Avenue or Lane Bryant. It's wierd. Also, as you get smaller you might feel vulnerable.
If you go out to eat -- ask the waitstaff for a takeout box immediately and dump half of it in the takeout box. It will probably be lunch and dinner the next day.
Do not drink alcohol. You won't have the tolerance you had with a full sized stomach and you will get stupid drunk very very quick. I made a complete *kitten* of myself at age 50 on a cruise around Manhattan dancing with a bunch of gay guys. Fortunately, they were drunk too, but the pictures my daughter took are embarassing. Just remember, you will officially be a cheap date from now on because it will be easy to get you drunk and you won't be able to eat much (that's a joke). Oh, and when you lose weight, those guys really are hitting on you -- they aren't just being friendly.
Always sip your drinks.
Your hair will fall out -- but that stops after a while and your hair will eventually be normal again.
Your skin will be dry -- same as hair. it will even out.
You will find you have SO much more money because you aren't eating. Go buy yourself new clothes and treat yourself. Learn to treat yourself with other things other than food. Be adventurous. Do things you never did before (just don't go on cruises around Manhattan, get drunk, and dry hump gay boys half your age -- or if you do, don't let anyone take pictures).
Do not graze (which was my downfall). I got a sedentary job and would munch on crackers all day. Weight came back with a vengeance.
One thing I have noticed that apart from the grazing, I am really not all that interested in food. I always tell people after the surgery, I eat what I want -- I just want to eat different things than I did before. I was always a sugar fiend -- now I like crackers and salty crunchy things.
So, there we go. I am sure I could think of more. Feel free to write back if you have any questions or need a shoulder. Mostly don't stress. Enjoy life. :-)
and this post just cured me of ever wanting any kind of weight loss surgery .... thank you for that )0 -
Your an inspiration to us all. God bless and keep posting. I love positive comments and really hate the negative busy bodies I've read on this thread.0
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Who is the ignorant prick who blasted this girl and caused her to inactivate her account? Is this the kind of treatment people receive on my fitness pal? Is there a moderator on this board?0
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Oh, I get it...Your the ignorant prick that caused the emotional damage to this girl that caused her to deactivate her account. If i were the a moderator here I would ban you. You had no business ranting your opinions at her. You should be banned.0
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In reply to Kakes80:
I am sorry. I mean no disrespect for you either, but apparently your are not in the same situation. If other options have worked for you, that is great, but not every situation is the same. Besides, it seems like you are thinking that she is taking an easy way out, but that is not correct. Getting a vertical sleeve or any other bariatric surgery just gives you a tool to help you lose weight. You still have to work very hard to reach your goal by watching what you eat and exercising.0 -
HOW EXCITING FOR YOU!!! My wife is having hers done late in March and I will possibly have mine done late in June. If you have a Facebook account, you may want to consider the "Bariactri Friendly" site.0
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In reply to Kakes80:
I am sorry. I mean no disrespect for you either, but apparently your are not in the same situation. If other options have worked for you, that is great, but not every situation is the same. Besides, it seems like you are thinking that she is taking an easy way out, but that is not correct. Getting a vertical sleeve or any other bariatric surgery just gives you a tool to help you lose weight. You still have to work very hard to reach your goal by watching what you eat and exercising.
I keep reading this but I don't get it. If you are capable of watching what you eat and exersizing from now and for the rest of your life, than why do you need someone to cut into your organs to physically restrain you from eating?0 -
I was not capable of making sure my portion size was what it needed to be for the rest of my life. Now my reduced stoamch size does that for me I just make sure what I out in is as food as possible. At my biggest walking caused me pain and damage, now I can run in comfort and I enjoy it. Now I can do all the things and take care of myself where I couldn't before. I was being swallwed up in fat.
Oh and a few numbers. I was medically supervised to lose weight before my op. I reduced my calories every 2 weeks by a 100 cals starting at 1500. I did not start losing weight until I reached the 1200 and below mark.
I now eat around 1000/1100 cals a day. I walk 5 miles every day and run 3 times a week. I never eat back my excercise calories and now I am maintaining at these numbers. Yes it would have been better for me to be able to do this without the op but that would have required a doc ready to refer for professional dietry advice and monitoring over a long period of time to train my thinking as well as reduce my body size. Couselling to deal with the food issues that I had etc. I am grateful for this chance I have to lead a normal life just with a small stomach. I will do all I can to make sure this works for me.0 -
Thank you I could not of said it better myself. I am less than a year out from RNY surgery and have lost 138 pounds I still have a long way to go but I will get there.0
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I am about 8 years post op gastric bypass. This is the most honest andscarily accurate account I have ever read. I was 304lbs pright before my surgery. I lost approximately 126lbs in the first year. I never did reach my goal and I have started to gain weight again becasue I have fallen into bad habits. Your post reminds me what it was like in the beginning and is inspiring me to get back to where I should be.0
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I read through the thread because I go back and forth a LOT with WLS. I am in a weird place because my BMI doesn't qualify me on its own for the surgery - it's not high enough. I actually don't have the kinds of comorbidities that would qualify me for surgery at my BMI (for real, I have been to two different bariatric surgeons for a consult. One doctor wouldn't do the surgery and told me to try harder to lose weight without it; one submitted to my insurance and the insurance denied coverage).
I have PCOS and hypothyroidism and have been trying to lose weight since I was 6. I had an eating disorder in high school, and still never got below a size 10. So I definitely get the appeal of surgery. Big time.
The thing is, the people I know who have had surgery, it didn't fix their life, even if they did lose weight. One became an alcoholic and is still relatively small, but she drinks way more than is healthy for her. One person gained all the weight back and then some. One person kept the weight off but ended up getting divorced, moving to a different town, finding a completely new job, etc. I like my life the way it is and don't want to have to "reinvent myself," as someone said, to lose weight or keep weight off.
I do know two people who had the surgery, lost the weight, kept it off, and say it was the best thing that ever happened to them.
For me, the big sticking point are the "nevers," with WLS. You can NEVER have a carbonated beverage again. You can NEVER drink with your meals. You can NEVER have more than two drinks without getting sloppy drunk. You can NEVER eat corn or celery again. In the aggregate, I realize those are small things, but I have trouble with NEVER. (I have problems with people telling me "YOU CAN'T, also, if you hadn't figured that out.
I actually appreciate all points made in this thread as I think it is important to talk about both sides of the story. I don't think WLS is a cop-out, from what I have seen. It takes a lot of work. But I don't think it's for me, either.0
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