road ethics
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Honest question here,... Why don't you "travel in the exit lane to avoid traffic, then get back into lane right at the end"?
Why does doing that make somebody a jerk?
why? Because you are the cause of the delay and not the only one trying to make work on time, genius!
People have the legal option to drive in the exit lane as long as it's still a lane with a dashed line. If it's a more efficient way to get where you're going then what's the problem? I still don't understand why you would sit at the back of the line being angry when you have the option to drive past the whole mess.
I can't help but wonder if you're angry because you're jealous that other people are getting ahead and you're not. You have that option you know. You can do it too. Are you afraid nobody will let you in?
Merging causes delay and that's an inescapable fact. You can complain all day long about how traffic should be but that wont change what it is. So in the scenario you described you have two options. You can be angry at the back of the line, or you can get there first. Why do you choose anger?0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.0 -
Honest question here,... Why don't you "travel in the exit lane to avoid traffic, then get back into lane right at the end"?
Why does doing that make somebody a jerk?
why? Because you are the cause of the delay and not the only one trying to make work on time, genius!
People have the legal option to drive in the exit lane as long as it's still a lane with a dashed line. If it's a more efficient way to get where you're going then what's the problem? I still don't understand why you would sit at the back of the line being angry when you have the option to drive past the whole mess.
I can't help but wonder if you're angry because you're jealous that other people are getting ahead and you're not. You have that option you know. You can do it too. Are you afraid nobody will let you in?
Merging causes delay and that's an inescapable fact. You can complain all day long about how traffic should be but that wont change what it is. So in the scenario you described you have two options. You can be angry at the back of the line, or you can get there first. Why do you choose anger?
it's actually illegal to pass on the right0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?0 -
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You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?
Yes, passing on the right from exit lane is more dangerous than going 5-10 over speed limit.
I still hate it though when I'm going the speed limit (or 5 miles over) and someone gets on my rear end and I'm not breaking any laws.
Cars have improved safety (crumple zones, airbags etc.) but can't deny laws of physics in regards to stopping distance and increased impact when colliding at high speeds.
My husband seems to think there's a rule about "keeping with the flow of traffic" but has yet to show that to me in writing.0 -
i explained that the conditions of my city make the left lane not a passing lane, by overwhelming consensus and convention. also, i don't live in a state.
#1 You asked:
#2 I assume you live in D.C. It also has a Slower Traffic Keep Right Law.Supposed to move over? According to which law?
Sorry was unclear - but, thank you, yes, I did ask for a law, & neglected to offer a context re location, my bad - I meant, what law permits tailgating as an appropriate form of inter-driver communication?
The left lane is the passing lane in most places, of course, and technically (but in no way realistically) in mine too
Not in DC, not in the US
Oh, well that whole back and forth was pointless. It's comparing apples and oranges, we don't know how people drive in your country.
Passing lane is not a technical thing, it's a very real in our country because it is big and we can afford those lanes except during rush hours in major metropolitan areas.
What? It's 'very real' on the books here too - it's just unenforceable, because there is literally no space for all the freaking cars. NOSPACE
and we can afford it, we just have an ashhat for a mayor. other cities don't have this problem.
(we drive the same)
"very real" I mean it is not just on the books and is enforced, hence it is very real with everyday implications.
By "afford" I was metaphorically referring to space/land and not money. If you don't have enough space to use left lanes for passing then you aren't really experiencing the same issue we are talking about.
i have not ONLY driven around the city i live in. i'm in north america. and a reasonable physical infrastructure is not necessarily constrained by square area.
I've driven for a year in London doesn't mean I really qualify to shimmy in as an expert. I flew a plane for 20 minutes before doesn't mean I can walk to a pilot's lounge and tell them how the 767 jet is not that great to pilot.
And if you are in North America and not the US, you are not qualified for this conversation if you are Canadian, they are simply to nice as a group. If you are Mexican then I'm not qualified to give and take with you, cause I saw people drive normally after a shooting took place on the highway, and that is a whole other level on expert road rage.0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?
Yes, passing on the right from exit lane is more dangerous than going 5-10 over speed limit.
I still hate it though when I'm going the speed limit (or 5 miles over) and someone gets on my rear end and I'm not breaking any laws.
Cars have improved safety (crumple zones, airbags etc.) but can't deny laws of physics in regards to stopping distance and increased impact when colliding at high speeds.
My husband seems to think there's a rule about "keeping with the flow of traffic" but has yet to show that to me in writing.
To hell with common courtesy then right? Like I said before, if someone decides they think 10-15 mph over the limit is what they want to travel, then move over. Why? Because YOU want the guy that's in the left lane traveling at the speed limit to move over wen you approach them0 -
Right 4 long into right 2 tightens
I'm not sure he knows that car is RWD.0 -
Or people who see the Right lane ends 1 mile sign and stays in the right line right up until it ends and then expects someone to let them in....
People who think like this do not know how to drive, and should go immediately back to drivers' ed.to learn ALL of the rules of the road, not just the ones they happen to like. The proper, and fair, way to merge two lanes is *at* the point where they merge. Leaving a lane completely open for a mile just causes traffic jams farther back, and makes merging a goat **** of idiocy. The exception would be if it is an exit only lane. In that case, merge early, and leave the exit only lane for those exiting. I hope you use your turn signals for every turn and lane change, smile at others, and wave 'thank you' when merging/driving. Let he who is without driving sin cast the first stone--probably best to focus on your own driving and drive better and friendlier. Also, maybe that guy who zipped down the shoulder had a dying kid in his back seat....0 -
I have lived in a lot of different places, and while the road laws in different states are mostly the same, the design of the highways/freeways and streets really affects how you should drive them.
California highways are madness where you need to get to the far left often long before your exit and the middle lane is the fast lane. This is also true of some congested three-lane cities.
For most other places, the best policy is to be on the right unless you are passing. So what if you are moving faster than most of the traffic? Odds are there will be some maniac going faster than you, and you want to be on the right side when you see them coming.
The current thing that bothers me is that most of the lights in the city I live have no dedicated left turn, so everyone waiting for a left turn takes it at the end of a yellow or start of a red. I have almost had an accident a couple of times because of this.0 -
My latest driving pet peeves:
2. People who take their sweet time cruising up to an intersection until the light changes from green to yellow and then floor it, leaving you to catch the red light.
^^^ This!
Especially when you see they're looking at their phone and paying NO attention whatsoever!0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?
Yes, passing on the right from exit lane is more dangerous than going 5-10 over speed limit.
I still hate it though when I'm going the speed limit (or 5 miles over) and someone gets on my rear end and I'm not breaking any laws.
Cars have improved safety (crumple zones, airbags etc.) but can't deny laws of physics in regards to stopping distance and increased impact when colliding at high speeds.
My husband seems to think there's a rule about "keeping with the flow of traffic" but has yet to show that to me in writing.
To hell with common courtesy then right? Like I said before, if someone decides they think 10-15 mph over the limit is what they want to travel, then move over. Why? Because YOU want the guy that's in the left lane traveling at the speed limit to move over wen you approach them
I think there are two situations here:
One is the scenario where there are two lanes. I am in the left lane already going 5+ miles over the speed limit with the right lane completely clear, and another car comes up on my butt. Whether I am already going over the speed limit or not, yes, I should get over if the right lane is clear. Even if the guy is being a douchecanoe, if he wants to go faster than me, I get over and let him pass me in the left lane...as I glare at him while he passes for generally being a jerk. Not sure how him pushing me over is any more courteous than me getting out of the way for him, which is what you seem to be implying???
The second scenario is the one I mentioned a few pages before. If I am in the left lane going 5+ miles over the speed limit and CONSISTENTLY PASSING CARS IN THE RIGHT LANE, then the douchecanoe whose headlights I can't even see in my rearview mirror because he's so close should be patient and get off my toosh. In this situation, be prepared for me to tap my breaks.
Common courtesy goes both ways.0 -
3rd scenario. Move over, he goes by, life goes on.
No need to make some TV show dramatic situation out of it.0 -
3rd scenario. Move over, he goes by, life goes on.
No need to make some TV show dramatic situation out of it.
And how exactly do you expect me to move over safely while speeding and consistently passing vehicles on the right that are going much slower than me with little to no space to do so?
Would you like for me to go even faster so that I can get out of your way quicker and get in front of the line on the right?
Or maybe slam on my brakes so that I can get into the back of the line on the right?
Again, common courtesy goes both ways. If you would like for me to be courteous to you and get out of your way, then show me the same courtesy by respecting that I am also on the road, probably with my children in the car, and will gladly move over for faster cars as soon as I am done safely passing the cars on my right.0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
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You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?
Yes, passing on the right from exit lane is more dangerous than going 5-10 over speed limit.
I still hate it though when I'm going the speed limit (or 5 miles over) and someone gets on my rear end and I'm not breaking any laws.
Cars have improved safety (crumple zones, airbags etc.) but can't deny laws of physics in regards to stopping distance and increased impact when colliding at high speeds.
My husband seems to think there's a rule about "keeping with the flow of traffic" but has yet to show that to me in writing.
To hell with common courtesy then right? Like I said before, if someone decides they think 10-15 mph over the limit is what they want to travel, then move over. Why? Because YOU want the guy that's in the left lane traveling at the speed limit to move over wen you approach them
If it is just you travelling in a vacuum; no other cars on the road and no kids in your car and no pedestrians on the road I don't care how fast you are going.
Speed limits are posted for a reason; safety for the community at large which IMO supercedes what you think is common courtesy. Not sure why you think if you want to drive faster than the legal limit than others should accommodate you.
If I get behind someone going a little slower than I am, as long as they are going the speed limit, I do not feel I have the right to ride their bumper, flash my lights etc.0 -
Again, much drama, less common sense.
If you can't move over than obviously you cannot.
But then again you point was that since you were going 10-15 mph over than that should be good enough for anyone else.
Who said they are necessarily constantly riding your bumper, constantly flashing their lights? A quick hi beam is the common indicator for "please move over when safe"
If you want to go the indicated speed limit, fine. Please do it in the far RIGHT lane where all the other slower drivers drive.0 -
Or people who see the Right lane ends 1 mile sign and stays in the right line right up until it ends and then expects someone to let them in....
you're supposed to do this ^^
If the lane was ending and did not yet for however far/long, why should I get over and allow that pavement go unused? Getting over too soon only creates a longer traffic jam. Travel to the merge point, then merge together...like a zipper.0 -
You want to know why? Because passing on the RIGHT is frowned upon. I don't like passing on the right. slower traffic keep right applies no matter how fast you are going.
But going 100+ is perfectly fine? Fine logic you have there, lol.
What in the hell are you talking about? I'll repeat. Slow traffic keep right. Just remember that and you'll be fine. No one likes the self imposed speed police.
I beleive it is illegal to drive over the posted speed (self appointed speed police or not). And yes I know, that people go over the limit but if you read highway laws I don't think that you'd be covered if you are caught.
But then in another post you said that passing on the right is illegal.
So, you think people should follow some laws but shouldn't be held back by other laws?
Not trying to start an arguement, but I hear this all the time and not sure how you (and others) decided which laws can/should be broken and others not, and that everyone should follow your version of complying to laws.
edit for typos
You're right. Nice catch. I advocate slower traffic to keep right. But I can't advocate using the exit lane to pass on the right Yourself?
Yes, passing on the right from exit lane is more dangerous than going 5-10 over speed limit.
I still hate it though when I'm going the speed limit (or 5 miles over) and someone gets on my rear end and I'm not breaking any laws.
Cars have improved safety (crumple zones, airbags etc.) but can't deny laws of physics in regards to stopping distance and increased impact when colliding at high speeds.
My husband seems to think there's a rule about "keeping with the flow of traffic" but has yet to show that to me in writing.
To hell with common courtesy then right? Like I said before, if someone decides they think 10-15 mph over the limit is what they want to travel, then move over. Why? Because YOU want the guy that's in the left lane traveling at the speed limit to move over wen you approach them
If it is just you travelling in a vacuum; no other cars on the road and no kids in your car and no pedestrians on the road I don't care how fast you are going.
Speed limits are posted for a reason; safety for the community at large which IMO supercedes what you think is common courtesy. Not sure why you think if you want to drive faster than the legal limit than others should accommodate you.
If I get behind someone going a little slower than I am, as long as they are going the speed limit, I do not feel I have the right to ride their bumper, flash my lights etc.
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http://fairtrafficlaws.com/Speed_and_Driving_Safely.html
LIMITATIONS ON THE APPLICATION OF SPEED LIMIT SIGNS
Unfortunately, it turns out that the idea that speed limits are a useful tool for controlling traffic speed may be a regrettable myth. Nonetheless, the speed limit can serve an important purpose when its use is restricted to the following important functions:
1.Provide a legal basis for prosecution of those who drive dangerously fast,
2.Notify motorists of locations where hazards exist that are not immediately apparent, such as school zones, and
3.Inform motorists of the safest speed to travel in normal traffic under favorable conditions.
The scientific method for setting speed limits that achieve these objectives is described on the page titled, "Setting Fair, Legal, Speed Limits".0 -
Again, much drama, less common sense.
If you can't move over than obviously you cannot.
But then again you point was that since you were going 10-15 mph over than that should be good enough for anyone else.
Who said they are necessarily constantly riding your bumper, constantly flashing their lights? A quick hi beam is the common indicator for "please move over when safe"
If you want to go the indicated speed limit, fine. Please do it in the far RIGHT lane where all the other slower drivers drive.
YOUR point was that I should be the one to be courteous and get over, even though I'm already breaking the law by speeding AND passing vehicles that, if you were behind me, would also be passing.
Why shouldn't YOU be the one to be courteous and stop riding my bumper and back off until I can safely get over? Not doing so simply makes you a jerk.
No drama. Manners.0 -
THIS too. but DO NOT get out of the lane you're in to take advantage of the open lane. If you're already there, fine... but not if you're sitting stopped in traffic then change lanes to jump ahead. It also seems to matter if traffic is stopped or moving when the lane ends... same for on ramps... go to merge point..Or people who see the Right lane ends 1 mile sign and stays in the right line right up until it ends and then expects someone to let them in....
you're supposed to do this ^^
If the lane was ending and did not yet for however far/long, why should I get over and allow that pavement go unused? Getting over too soon only creates a longer traffic jam. Travel to the merge point, then merge together...like a zipper.0 -
Again, much drama, less common sense.
If you can't move over than obviously you cannot.
But then again you point was that since you were going 10-15 mph over than that should be good enough for anyone else.
Who said they are necessarily constantly riding your bumper, constantly flashing their lights? A quick hi beam is the common indicator for "please move over when safe"
If you want to go the indicated speed limit, fine. Please do it in the far RIGHT lane where all the other slower drivers drive.
YOUR point was that I should be the one to be courteous and get over, even though I'm already breaking the law by speeding AND passing vehicles that, if you were behind me, would also be passing.
Why shouldn't YOU be the one to be courteous and stop riding my bumper and back off until I can safely get over? Not doing so simply makes you a jerk.
No drama. Manners.
Why do you assume I don't to EXACTLY that? Point to where I said I'd ride you like an amusement park attraction until you moved over?
BTW. Technically, if you were as good as a driver as you THINK you are, you'd see me coming up behind you and I would have never been able to tailgate you because you would have moved over. I do this when possible.
And since your entire argument is about breaking the law, staying in the left lane while not passing, is illegal when posted. Slow traffic keep right. And yes, since you aren't breaking the law, you'd have to be going no faster than the speed limit. If you are in the left lane doing the speed limit, you are definately not passing anyone0 -
LoL. "...ride you like an amusement park attraction..." made me laugh.Why do you assume I don't to EXACTLY that? Point to where I said I'd ride you like an amusement park attraction until you moved over?
Anyhow, it was actually ME who started this particular topic within the thread, I believe. My personal pet peeve is when someone, as you say, "rides me like an amusement park attraction" when I'm in the left lane, going over the speed limit, and passing vehicles in the right lane.
Maybe you didn't come right out and say that you do that, but I made that assumption based on your comments - that if someone wants to go faster than you, they have every right to tailgate you, flash lights, beep horns, etc. I believe you said, "...riding your bumper is a way to tell you that I want to pass you." And you also mentioned that flashing lights is the universal signal to let someone in front of you know you need them to get over. While that might be true and completely necessary in emergency situations, it is typically rude to do so in every day traffic situations.BTW. Technically, if you were as good as a driver as you THINK you are, you'd see me coming up behind you and I would have never been able to tailgate you because you would have moved over. I do this when possible.
Never claimed to be an awesome driver, and not sure where you got I think that as we are talking about ONE situation out of thousands. But...yeah...now that you mention it, I don't think I'm a BAD driver, and I absolutely would do this if I saw you coming and had the ability to get over.And since your entire argument is about breaking the law, staying in the left lane while not passing, is illegal when posted. Slow traffic keep right. And yes, since you aren't breaking the law, you'd have to be going no faster than the speed limit. If you are in the left lane doing the speed limit, you are definately not passing anyone
My entire argument is not about breaking the law. I break the law every time I drive because I go at least 5+ miles over the speed limit (I thought I stated that?). That's not my issue. My entire argument is about jerks who think they are the only ones on the road and have more right to the left lane than I do when I'm going plenty fast enough and passing vehicles.
I 100% agree with you. Slow traffic keep right, and get out of the left lane if you aren't passing. I'm not slow traffic. However, I do get out of the left lane if I'm not passing anybody and/or there's someone coming up behind me who is going faster.
Are we on the same page yet? :flowerforyou:0 -
get out of the left lane unless you are passing...0
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I see your point but riding your bumper is a way to tell you that I want to pass you.
You could also use your signal? And then wait for a gap?
Could. Or flash the bights once. but if that person is in the left lane, that person is supposed to move over to the right so I can pass on the left. Passing on the right is not recommended.
Supposed to move over? According to which law?
There is no way I'm doing anything different just because someone tailgates me, and especially not if s/he does any of those things.
If I'm going with the flow of traffic, say 10-15 mph over the limit (a guess, I think in km), unless it's an ambulance behind me, that person can suck it and wait.
I love it when theyve been riding your *kitten* and you havent been able to get over and then when you do move right for them to pass, they either pullin behind you and continue to ride your *kitten*, or drive right beside you...
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I am appalled at the lack of road ethics shown by people. For example, people would travel in the exit lane to avoid traffic, then get back into lane right at the end. I hate these people. There is something wrong with them. We all justify our stupid actions but it really is a reflection of our character. Stop being a jerk!
Do you live in Utah?! Man, am I sick of Utah drivers. No signaling, left turns 3 cars after the light turns red, squeezing in at the end of a lane merge, getting stuck behind a car who is cruise controlling 5 below the speed limit, passing someone going slower than you only to have them speed up when they see you trying to pass them. Morons everywhere.0 -
Yup. It's all good
LoL. "...ride you like an amusement park attraction..." made me laugh.Why do you assume I don't to EXACTLY that? Point to where I said I'd ride you like an amusement park attraction until you moved over?
Anyhow, it was actually ME who started this particular topic within the thread, I believe. My personal pet peeve is when someone, as you say, "rides me like an amusement park attraction" when I'm in the left lane, going over the speed limit, and passing vehicles in the right lane.
Maybe you didn't come right out and say that you do that, but I made that assumption based on your comments - that if someone wants to go faster than you, they have every right to tailgate you, flash lights, beep horns, etc. I believe you said, "...riding your bumper is a way to tell you that I want to pass you." And you also mentioned that flashing lights is the universal signal to let someone in front of you know you need them to get over. While that might be true and completely necessary in emergency situations, it is typically rude to do so in every day traffic situations.BTW. Technically, if you were as good as a driver as you THINK you are, you'd see me coming up behind you and I would have never been able to tailgate you because you would have moved over. I do this when possible.
Never claimed to be an awesome driver, and not sure where you got I think that as we are talking about ONE situation out of thousands. But...yeah...now that you mention it, I don't think I'm a BAD driver, and I absolutely would do this if I saw you coming and had the ability to get over.And since your entire argument is about breaking the law, staying in the left lane while not passing, is illegal when posted. Slow traffic keep right. And yes, since you aren't breaking the law, you'd have to be going no faster than the speed limit. If you are in the left lane doing the speed limit, you are definately not passing anyone
My entire argument is not about breaking the law. I break the law every time I drive because I go at least 5+ miles over the speed limit (I thought I stated that?). That's not my issue. My entire argument is about jerks who think they are the only ones on the road and have more right to the left lane than I do when I'm going plenty fast enough and passing vehicles.
I 100% agree with you. Slow traffic keep right, and get out of the left lane if you aren't passing. I'm not slow traffic. However, I do get out of the left lane if I'm not passing anybody and/or there's someone coming up behind me who is going faster.
Are we on the same page yet? :flowerforyou:
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