diet soda dangers

Scientific literacy fail.

That article has nothing whatsoever to do with diet soda.

This is a cohort study and doesn't establish causation anyway.

I can't offer more criticism of the conclusions without access to the original article.

Exactly what I was thinking.

You'll live a much happier life if you just enjoy your food and concentrate on being happy and healthy. If you look at any food on the planet, including those on the whole foods list you will find problems with all of them if you look close enough.

The irony is that people analyse foods on their own. When really they are combined with the body, other foods, the environment and therefore it is impossible to know what a food will or won't do to the body because it will change in the body and whilst combined with other foods, chemicals cancel and nullify each other,the way foods are cooked alter their properties etc..

I'd rather spend the limited time I've got in life on something more than micromanaging my diet.

^^Well said! I totally agree!!

How about:
QUOTE
Artificial Sweeteners
Contrary to popular belief, studies have found that artificial sweeteners such as aspartame can stimulate your appetite, increase carbohydrate cravings, and stimulate fat storage and weight gain. In one of the most recent of such studies8, saccharin and aspartame were found to cause greater weight gain than sugar.
Aspartame is perhaps one of the most problematic. It is primarily made up of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. The phenylalanine has been synthetically modified to carry a methyl group, which provides the majority of the sweetness. That phenylalanine methyl bond, called a methyl ester, is very weak, which allows the methyl group on the phenylalanine to easily break off and form methanol.
You may have heard the claim that aspartame is harmless because methanol is also found in fruits and vegetables. However, in fruits and vegetables, the methanol is firmly bonded to pectin, allowing it to be safely passed through your digestive tract. Not so with the methanol created by aspartame; there it’s not bonded to anything that can help eliminate it from your body.
Methanol acts as a Trojan horse; it's carried into susceptible tissues in your body, like your brain and bone marrow, where the alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) enzyme converts it into formaldehyde, which wreaks havoc with sensitive proteins and DNA. All animals EXCEPT HUMANS have a protective mechanism that allows methanol to be broken down into harmless formic acid. This is why toxicology testing on animals is a flawed model. It doesn't fully apply to people.
UNQUOTE ( http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/10/9-unhealthy-foods.aspx )

How about:
QUOTE
Artificial Sweeteners
Contrary to popular belief, studies have found that artificial sweeteners such as aspartame can stimulate your appetite, increase carbohydrate cravings, and stimulate fat storage and weight gain. In one of the most recent of such studies8, saccharin and aspartame were found to cause greater weight gain than sugar.
Aspartame is perhaps one of the most problematic. It is primarily made up of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. The phenylalanine has been synthetically modified to carry a methyl group, which provides the majority of the sweetness. That phenylalanine methyl bond, called a methyl ester, is very weak, which allows the methyl group on the phenylalanine to easily break off and form methanol.
You may have heard the claim that aspartame is harmless because methanol is also found in fruits and vegetables. However, in fruits and vegetables, the methanol is firmly bonded to pectin, allowing it to be safely passed through your digestive tract. Not so with the methanol created by aspartame; there it’s not bonded to anything that can help eliminate it from your body.
Methanol acts as a Trojan horse; it's carried into susceptible tissues in your body, like your brain and bone marrow, where the alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) enzyme converts it into formaldehyde, which wreaks havoc with sensitive proteins and DNA. All animals EXCEPT HUMANS have a protective mechanism that allows methanol to be broken down into harmless formic acid. This is why toxicology testing on animals is a flawed model. It doesn't fully apply to people.
UNQUOTE ( http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/10/9-unhealthy-foods.aspx )

Mercola also believes that microwaves are very dangerous and other quackery and I would greatly discourage anyone from citing him or believing him as anything remotely reliable.

http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/joe-mercola-quackery-pays/
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/02/01/joe-mercola-proof-positive-that-quackery/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/joseph-mercola-misinformation-and-fear-mongering-about-vaccines/

How about:
QUOTE
Artificial Sweeteners
Contrary to popular belief, studies have found that artificial sweeteners such as aspartame can stimulate your appetite, increase carbohydrate cravings, and stimulate fat storage and weight gain. In one of the most recent of such studies8, saccharin and aspartame were found to cause greater weight gain than sugar.
Aspartame is perhaps one of the most problematic. It is primarily made up of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. The phenylalanine has been synthetically modified to carry a methyl group, which provides the majority of the sweetness. That phenylalanine methyl bond, called a methyl ester, is very weak, which allows the methyl group on the phenylalanine to easily break off and form methanol.
You may have heard the claim that aspartame is harmless because methanol is also found in fruits and vegetables. However, in fruits and vegetables, the methanol is firmly bonded to pectin, allowing it to be safely passed through your digestive tract. Not so with the methanol created by aspartame; there it’s not bonded to anything that can help eliminate it from your body.
Methanol acts as a Trojan horse; it's carried into susceptible tissues in your body, like your brain and bone marrow, where the alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) enzyme converts it into formaldehyde, which wreaks havoc with sensitive proteins and DNA. All animals EXCEPT HUMANS have a protective mechanism that allows methanol to be broken down into harmless formic acid. This is why toxicology testing on animals is a flawed model. It doesn't fully apply to people.
UNQUOTE ( http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/10/9-unhealthy-foods.aspx )

Wow, that's crazy!

Oh, wait....... the article is completely unsourced. And the good doctor sells a whole line of products whose marketing relies on scaring people away from certain types of foods.


"A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial criticized Mercola's marketing practices as "relying on slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[3] The Better Business Bureau gave his business a failing grade for not honoring its money-back guarantees.[4] In 2005, 2006, and 2011 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company to stop making illegal claims regarding his products' ability to detect, prevent and treat disease.[5] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims and clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations [and making] many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."[5]"

More excerpts from Wikipedia:


Mercola's website has called microwave ovens dangerous,

Mercola has questioned whether HIV is the cause of AIDS. He has argued instead that the manifestations of AIDS (including opportunistic infections and death) may be the result of "psychological stress" brought on by the belief that HIV is harmful.

Mercola opposes the use of most prescription drugs and immunizations

Mercola has also claimed that the use of many commercial brands of sunscreen increases, not decreases, the likelihood of contracting skin cancer with high UV exposure. He advocates the use of "natural" sunscreens, some of which he markets on his website.

I'm sure that it's not great for you, but I drink a Diet Coke every day, and I'm happy, healthy, have none of those problems, and am in great shape...aerobics, weight training, and Zumba every week...AND I'm 72 years old!

What about:

QUOTE (Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis)

"When study participants drank sucralose, their blood sugar peaked at a higher level than when they drank only water before consuming glucose," Pepino explained. "Insulin levels also rose about 20 percent higher. So the artificial sweetener was related to an enhanced blood insulin and glucose response."

UNQUOTE ( http://www.news-medical.net/news/20130530/Popular-artificial-sweetener-can-modify-how-the-body-handles-sugar-find-researchers.aspx )

Darn it, I'm late to the popcorn party.

I found I cant breathe with it as I'm allergic to preservatives in diet and non diet sodas and many other things. Taste discussing when you don't have it for years. I guess just like a non smoker doesn't like the smell of cig smoke.

Anyway some other info for you.
http://www.infowars.com/food-the-ultimate-secret-exposed/

I love it when I go to a thread with a known trigger subject and the first post says, "You are ignoring this user." I have excellent skills.

This.

What about:

QUOTE (Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis)

"When study participants drank sucralose, their blood sugar peaked at a higher level than when they drank only water before consuming glucose," Pepino explained. "Insulin levels also rose about 20 percent higher. So the artificial sweetener was related to an enhanced blood insulin and glucose response."

UNQUOTE ( http://www.news-medical.net/news/20130530/Popular-artificial-sweetener-can-modify-how-the-body-handles-sugar-find-researchers.aspx )

What you didn't mention is that the study participants were all extremely obese (BMI > 42).

The result was that when these morbidly obese people drank sucralose before glucose, blood sugar rose a little higher than when they drank water and then glucose.

Oh noes.

What about:

QUOTE (Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis)

"When study participants drank sucralose, their blood sugar peaked at a higher level than when they drank only water before consuming glucose," Pepino explained. "Insulin levels also rose about 20 percent higher. So the artificial sweetener was related to an enhanced blood insulin and glucose response."

UNQUOTE ( http://www.news-medical.net/news/20130530/Popular-artificial-sweetener-can-modify-how-the-body-handles-sugar-find-researchers.aspx )

What you didn't mention is that the study participants were all extremely obese (BMI > 42).

The result was that when these morbidly obese people drank sucralose before glucose, blood sugar rose a little higher than when they drank water and then glucose.

Oh noes.

LOL... that information wasnt purposefully excluded... the link was provided... this is just one study... and your oneliner answer seems to misinterpret the info...

sounds legit

Actually diet soda is horrible for you. I didn't realize this was still a debatable thing. O.o I would be happy to give sources if they are requested. I am currently not on my home computer so will later. Although I hesitate because people tend to go lalala to things they don't want to hear. Also if it is laziness then I don't wish to support that either so.... It is better to do your own research and not just assume everything you hear on tv ads and read in magazines is true. Especially since those sources come from the companies trying to sell the stuff to you. I'll try and remember to get on later and link some good things along with some good books if I can find some.

They used to say smoking wasn't bad also. Are people still denying that? Or is it ok since at least one person mentioned pretty much everything has cancer causing chemicals now? Sadly this is true but if you eat whole foods, especially responsibly organic local food (there are farmer's markets everywhere now) you can avoid most of this. Just because it is hidden in a lot doesn't mean I am gonna say screw it and start chugging things I know are horrible for me.

yes please