Fitness myth pet peeves...
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Not a myth, but I'll give my #1 current pet peeve.
"I'd like to start running. How do I do this?"
It's running. Like, similar to walking but faster. My kids learned to walk and then started running about 3 months later. Children do it in the park all day every day but grown *kitten* adults have to post a forum topic to be ask how to buy shoes, run (similar to walking, but faster) and don't overdo it?
oh, and don't forget to buy your hrm first because if you don't your heart might explode! yes, so many exploded hearts on the running trail by my house.
I love this ^^^ :laugh:
It's kind of like the "fat and muscle weigh the same thing" argument. I'm sure I ran all the time as a three year old. However, as an adult, I needed a little guidance into being able to run for more than a minute without losing a lung. We get very confused and think that running is about being able to go fast. I needed some training in running SLOW. No, even slower than that, for the first three months.
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Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.0 -
What about women who can't figure out where the spontaneous monthly weight gain comes from?0
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Not really a myth....but a pet peeve is definitely when those of us who are new to working out or healthy living in general get reprimanded or treated like idiots for *honestly* not being aware that some of these things are myths. (I get the whole, stop posting questions on things that have already been answered - I pretty much NEVER have to post questions because I search and they've already been answered). But I don't get why everyone thinks that all of this is SUCH common knowledge and of course they've known about all of these things since birth.
And I'm really not getting why saying "I want to tone up" is such a big deal? Please explain because I definitely would like to be toned. Call me blonde, ignorant, or just plain dumb....but these things honestly discourage me from asking ANY questions and even being around fit people who clearly know it all.
Oh and pet peeve #2: People who USED to be fat and ignorant and forget where they came from and what it felt like.
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"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out.
What?!? Please direct me to this information.0 -
Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.
I can understand people being bored with it. It's not for everyone.
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"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out.
According to my registered dietitian, she thinks this to be true. I inwardly winced when I heard her say this when I say her Monday morning. Le sigh.0 -
Yes but the first law is about conservation of energy within a closed system. What goes in and out and what you're measuring on the scale is mass in the form of molecules. You don't gain and lose pounds of sunlight, you gain and lose (and convert) molecules. Energy in the form of heat can be transferred into the body without eating, those would be 'calories in' if we were talking about energy.
I'll happily admit that my point is a rather pedantic one, but IMO claiming thermodynamics applies to food in the human body is also pedantic so I think it's only fair game. :laugh:The first law of thermodynamics applies to humans but not in the way people want it to. It does not state that all caloric content of swallowed food is absorbed by the body nor does it state that macronutrients must be burned or 'do work' before leaving the body.
Correct! It states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. ERGO: Calories in = calories out
Excess calories in are stored as fat. When calories out > calories in, fat stores are tapped.
One can have protein or glucose in their urine, or exhale alcohol for example. Those are calories out without 'burning' them and violate the "equation." The energy in this context is stored in the bonds of molecules, and there's no law that says the molecules cannot leave the body in the same state as they entered it. Also you can say the same with calories in, not everybody absorbs everything they've eaten.
However it is consistent with an individual, at least consistent enough that counting calories (and calories in/out) still does work very effectively and IMO is the best weight loss strategy. But the first law of thermodynamics isn't about molecules entering or leaving a body.
It doesn't matter if they are "burned" or "expelled," or whatever the process. They still go out. :laugh:
What goes in has to go out, or get stored.
It would be like applying the first law to scooping sand into and out of a bucket. Yes, the amount of sand in the bucket is a function of how much is put in and taken out. That isn't the first law of thermodynamics, that is the principle of conservation of mass.0 -
Not a myth, but I'll give my #1 current pet peeve.
"I'd like to start running. How do I do this?"
It's running. Like, similar to walking but faster. My kids learned to walk and then started running about 3 months later. Children do it in the park all day every day but grown *kitten* adults have to post a forum topic to be ask how to buy shoes, run (similar to walking, but faster) and don't overdo it?
oh, and don't forget to buy your hrm first because if you don't your heart might explode! yes, so many exploded hearts on the running trail by my house.
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Not everybody has ideal conformation. There isn't a single answer that's true for everyone.Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.0 -
Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
If it's not fun the don't do it.......simple.0 -
Not everybody has ideal conformation. There isn't a single answer that's true for everyone.Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.
I know that. However, it's the repetitive motion over the wrong planes - whether it's from genetics or old sports injuries - that is probably the underlying problem with running in this instance. I really hope that my example here isn't being used for sports medicine advice.
I usually tell people who give me the "bad knees" answer "that's why God make bicycles." Then they roll their eyes and walk away.0 -
My biggest pet peeve is that people say exercise is good for you.*
Have me running the 800m and I'll show you a man ready to keel over and die.
*Disclaimer - one should not take everything I say as Gospel, always consume a pinch of salt with it all.0 -
Do we need to log the salt?0
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Really?? a 6 month old thread?
The best part is that she resurrected a 5 month old thread only to later delete her comment in favor of <i>"Edit: forget it, who cares"</i>
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No but that's the point, for some the only way to avoid "repetitive motion over the wrong planes" is to not run.
Not everybody has ideal conformation. There isn't a single answer that's true for everyone.Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.
I know that. However, it's the repetitive motion over the wrong planes - whether it's from genetics or old sports injuries - that is probably the underlying problem with running in this instance. I really hope that my example here isn't being used for sports medicine advice.
I usually tell people who give me the "bad knees" answer "that's why God make bicycles." Then they roll their eyes and walk away.
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No but that's the point, for some the only way to avoid "repetitive motion over the wrong planes" is to not run.
Not everybody has ideal conformation. There isn't a single answer that's true for everyone.Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.
Running isn't what's killing your joints. Repetitive motion over the wrong planes is killing your joints, Throw that sucker in a brace or learn better form - you're in good alignment and the pain goes away.
I know that. However, it's the repetitive motion over the wrong planes - whether it's from genetics or old sports injuries - that is probably the underlying problem with running in this instance. I really hope that my example here isn't being used for sports medicine advice.
I usually tell people who give me the "bad knees" answer "that's why God make bicycles." Then they roll their eyes and walk away.
Point taken. However, it's not running that wrecked the knees here.0 -
"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
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"Yoga doesn't really count as strength training"
- obviously posted some time back by someone who had never tried Yoga properly and perpetuated by people who have similarly little or no personal experience.0 -
You need to have at least 8 glasses of water every day. Hrumph. No one even knows where that came from. Most everyone agrees you need to stay well hydrated, but there is no simple 8 glass minimum.0
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I always see people running to nowhere on the treadmill at the gym.. I wonder if they are running away from weakness or running away from us people who just walk... Was there a memo passed that stated that you have to run like a cheetah in order to have a good workout or something?
Some people could be training for something. I run on the treadmill and outside because I am training for a fun run in December. And I also WALK.0 -
That knowing your height automatically means you know what is a "healthy" weight for you. I had a complex for YEARS about the fact that although I'm rather short, I weigh a lot more than most people "think" I should (or that I do!) and I'm really only starting to get over it; hydrostatic body testing has helped me come a long way to seeing through the lies and understanding MY BODY. Those "magic numbers" are everywhere - in the media, on blogs, and ESPECIALLY on MFP forums. Even my (RN) mother fell into that trap while we were talking about my fitness goals a few months ago....:ohwell:0
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Person A: "Gold is more expensive than silver."People who don't think muscle weighs more than fat. It does in fact weigh more. If you take 1 cc of muscle and 1 cc of fat the muscle will weigh more thus per volume muscle does weigh more. If you do not realize this is what people mean then you are the one who doesnt get it.
Person B: "Nuh uh! One hundred dollars worth of gold is just as expensive as one hundred dollars worth of silver!"
This. And the loose/lose thing. Exactly.0 -
"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
We all know a pound is a pound is a pound.
But you hit the nail on the head, Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so by definition, a cubic foot of muscle weighs more than a cubic foot of fat, just like a cubic foot of dirt weighs more than a cubic foot of feathers.
THANK YOU. Whenever anyone says that muscle weighs more than fat, I give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are talking about volume. The same volume of muscle weighs more than the same volume of fat. That is true.
My pet peeve? Women seeking "longer" muscles. Ummm... unless you plan on attaching yourself to a stretching machine, the distance between your joints is going to remain the same (may even shrink with age!), so your muscles are never actually going to get longer no matter what exercises you do.0 -
"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out.
I really didn't know this one. So is this not possible?0 -
OMG I'm never going to make my 1000 calorie limit today... I can't possibly eat that much!
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You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time (this made me sad when I found out)
I thought I had. I lost a few pounds and quite a few inches. Using the Navy Circumference method, in a month I gained about 4 or 5 lb of LBM and lost 7 or 8 pounds (I don't remember what it was--I'm too sick {and therefore lazy} to look it up right now. But even if that's not totally accurate, I know I gained muscle while I lost pounds. But then, I had just started, and I understand that those who start strength training do typically gain a little muscle at the beginning, even while eating at a deficit. I don't expect to gain more LBM until I quit eating at a deficit.
Or maybe it's because I am not strict and only eat at a deficit most days. At least once a week I probably eat at maintenance. Maybe that explains it. Maybe not. But either way, I'm happy with what I'm doing.0
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