Has anyone tried those juice diet detoxes?

I like to detox, but don't like to do it for more than one and a half days at the most, usually one day only. When I do, I will drink juice drinks for breakfast and lunch, plus eat grapes, then have a regular light dinner (like steamed fish and vegetables). Or I do the leek soup fast, eating leek soup broth and leeks all day, plus a light dinner. You need to drink a lot of water too.

What it is is light food that doesn't take much to digest and that are slightly diuretic (grapes and leeks), then the water to flush stuff through.

I personally would never do this for more than a short stint once in awhile as I don't eat that bad. But if I wanted to do it longer, it would only be under the care of a doctor.

But......what exactly are you detoxing?

Honestly, probably nothing. They just call it detox. Really I'm just giving my system a rest from heavy digestion and a lot of extra water to flush stuff through. I feel very energized after, although if I did it for longer, I think the energetic effects would be depleted.

I'm not trying to be mean here or anything but what exactly are you eating that you think your digestive system needs a rest from? If your body needs a rest from digesting food which is a basic function then something is very wrong with either your body or what you're eating...

Hey now, if I want to eat this way (and there is nothing wrong with drinking healthy juice drinks for breakfast and lunch and having a light dinner) whether you call it 'detox' or what you ate that day. But if I like to do that even once a month, it's really none of your business. And, it's none of your business what I'm eating! I'm answering an inquiry by the op, not you.

I'm really surprised by these boards and how rude and aggressive some people are. I'm really getting sick of it.

This thread is tame compared to the hundreds of others about detox. Nobody is being rude and aggressive, but simply trying to clarify that the body does a great job all by itself and is a darn good machine. Most of the time, it is the ones accusing others of being rude and aggressive that end up throwing the first punch. Your response was a prime example. :flowerforyou:

If my finding your response to me, which I did, rude and agressive, was me 'throwing the first punch', you are entitled to your opinion.

I personally don't feel comfortable with the way people respond here. Like you said, if this was 'tame', I'm done with posting. People are simply entitled to have different opinions. And I really didn't say anything to be attacked for or to ask me 'what are you eating' that needs help with digestion. Quite frankly, I'm not here to help you figure out that there can be ways to improve digestion, or that some things take longer to digest, or anything else.

I get that there is a difference of opinion on issues, but what irks me is the attitude of forcing an opinion on someone else. I would no more tell someone else they should detox than I would expect them to make fun of my light days of, yes I call it 'detox' when it makes me feel good and brings me energy.

I did find your response rude and agressive. There was no reason to make fun of my choices or ask me what I eat.

...oh yea, or tell me something is wrong with my body.

1. You were not attacked.
2. I never asked for help on how to improve digestion.
3. Nobody was giving you attitude.
4. Nobody was forcing an opinion on you.
5. Nobody was making fun of you.
6. Since you feel so strongly that people were being rude and aggressive, than yes, it may be a good idea to stay off public internet forums.

If you want to tell me you didn't mean to make me feel that way, that is one thing. It is quite another to tell me I cannot feel I was attacked, or made fun, or felt like you were being rude and aggressive. I did feel that way, and your invalidating it telling me I should not feel that way does not change it. And your number six is over the top.

Thanks for your opinions.

Okey dokey. Have a nice day. :flowerforyou:

This thread is tame compared to the hundreds of others about detox. Nobody is being rude and aggressive, but simply trying to clarify that the body does a great job all by itself and is a darn good machine. Most of the time, it is the ones accusing others of being rude and aggressive that end up throwing the first punch. Your response was a prime example. :flowerforyou:

I quite enjoy how a lot of people confuse a difference of opinion with being rude or aggressive. Lol

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Zackly.

I detox after eating a lot of Mexican food. Hot sauce, burrito. That will clean you out. you can follow it up with a few juice boxes too. Not really sure about anything else, but my colon is cleaned.

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I see what you did there

I think this is a good thread to put this in. Also, it should be noted that most times this is learned from dysfunctional family backgrounds.

**Invalidation is to reject, ignore, mock, tease, judge, or diminish someone's feelings. It is an attempt to control how they feel and for how long they feel it.**

Constant invalidation may be one of the most significant reasons a person with high innate emotional intelligence suffers from unmet emotional needs later in life.  A sensitive child who is repeatedly invalidated becomes confused and begins to distrust his own emotions. He fails to develop confidence in and healthy use of his emotional brain-- one of nature's most basic survival tools. To adapt to this unhealthy and dysfunctional environment, the working relationship between his thoughts and feelings becomes twisted. His emotional responses, emotional management, and emotional development will likely be seriously, and perhaps permanently, impaired. The emotional processes which worked for him as a child may begin to work against him as an adult. In fact, one definition of the so-called "borderline personality disorder" is "the normal response of a sensitive person to an invalidating environment".

Psychiatrist R.D. Laing said that when we invalidate people or deny their perceptions and personal experiences, we make mental invalids of them. He found that when one's feelings are denied a person can be made to feel crazy even they are perfectly mentally healthy.

Recent research by Thomas R. Lynch, Ph.D. of Duke University supports the idea that invalidation leads to mental health problems. He writes "...a history of emotion invalidation (i.e., a history of childhood psychological abuse and parental punishment, minimization, and distress in response to negative emotion) was significantly associated with emotion inhibition (i.e., ambivalence over emotional expression, thought suppression, and avoidant stress responses). Further, emotion inhibition significantly predicted psychological distress, including depression and anxiety symptoms.)

Invalidation goes beyond mere rejection by implying not only that our feelings are disapproved of, but that we are fundamentally abnormal.  This implies that there is something wrong with us because we aren't like everyone else; we are strange; we are different; we are weird.

None of this feels good, and all of it damages us. The more different from the mass norm a person is, for example, more intelligent or more sensitive, the more he is likely to be invalidated. When we are invalidated by having our feelings repudiated, we are attacked at the deepest level possible, since our feelings are the innermost expression of our individual identities.

Psychological invalidation is one of the most lethal forms of emotional abuse. It kills confidence, creativity and individuality.

Telling a person she shouldn't feel the way she does feel is akin to telling water it shouldn't be wet, grass it shouldn't be green, or rocks they shouldn't be hard. Each person's feelings are real. Whether we like or understand someone's feelings, they are still real. Rejecting feelings is rejecting reality; it is to fight nature and may be called a crime against nature, "psychological murder", or "soul murder." Considering that trying to fight feelings, rather than accept them, is trying to fight all of nature, you can see why it is so frustrating, draining and futile.

A good guideline is:  First accept the feelings, then address the behavior.

One the great leaders in education, Haim Ginott, said this:  Primum non nocere- First do no harm. Do not deny your teenager's perception. Do not argue with his experience. Do not disown his feelings.

We regularly invalidate others because we ourselves were, and are often invalidated, so it has become habitual. Below are a few of the many ways we are invalidated:

We are told we shouldn't feel the way we feel
We are dictated not to feel the way we feel
We are told we are too sensitive, too "dramatic"
We are ignored
We are judged
We are led to believe there is something wrong with us for feeling how we feel

You Can't Heal an Emotional Wound with Logic

People with high IQ and low EQ tend to use logic to address emotional issues. They may say, "You are not being rational. There is no reason for you to feel the way you do. Let's look at the facts." Businesses, for example, and "professionals" are traditionally out of balance towards logic at the expense of emotions. This tends to alienate people and diminish their potential.

Actually, all emotions do have a basis in reality, and feelings are facts, fleeting though they may be.  But trying to dress an emotional wound, with logic tends to either confuse, sadden or infuriate a person. Or it may eventually isolate them from their feelings, with a resulting loss of major part of their natural intelligence.

Remember:

You can't solve an emotional problem, or heal an emotional wound, with logic alone.

There are many forms of invalidation. Most of them are so insidious that we don't even know what is happening. We know that something doesn't feel good, but we sometimes can't put our finger on it. We have been conditioned to think that invalidation is "normal." Indeed, it is extremely common, but it is certainly not healthy.

I have heard parents and teachers call children:  dramatic, crybabies, whiners, whingers, too sensitive, worry warts, drama queens.  I have also heard them say things like: "He cries at the drop of a hat." One teacher said "When she starts to cry, I just ignore her and eventually she stops." Another said, "When one kid's crying is disrupting the lesson, I tell them to go cry in the hall till they can pull themselves back together again."  All these labels and statements are invalidating and do emotional harm to children and sensitive teens and adults.

Our world will be a safer place when we learn to stop invalidating one another.

Source:  http://eqi.org/invalid.htm

Ah, a detox thread. I'll just leave this here.

I think this is a good thread to put this in. Also, it should be noted that most times this is learned from dysfunctional family backgrounds.

**Invalidation is to reject, ignore, mock, tease, judge, or diminish someone's feelings. It is an attempt to control how they feel and for how long they feel it.**

Constant invalidation may be one of the most significant reasons a person with high innate emotional intelligence suffers from unmet emotional needs later in life.  A sensitive child who is repeatedly invalidated becomes confused and begins to distrust his own emotions. He fails to develop confidence in and healthy use of his emotional brain-- one of nature's most basic survival tools. To adapt to this unhealthy and dysfunctional environment, the working relationship between his thoughts and feelings becomes twisted. His emotional responses, emotional management, and emotional development will likely be seriously, and perhaps permanently, impaired. The emotional processes which worked for him as a child may begin to work against him as an adult. In fact, one definition of the so-called "borderline personality disorder" is "the normal response of a sensitive person to an invalidating environment".

Psychiatrist R.D. Laing said that when we invalidate people or deny their perceptions and personal experiences, we make mental invalids of them. He found that when one's feelings are denied a person can be made to feel crazy even they are perfectly mentally healthy.

Recent research by Thomas R. Lynch, Ph.D. of Duke University supports the idea that invalidation leads to mental health problems. He writes "...a history of emotion invalidation (i.e., a history of childhood psychological abuse and parental punishment, minimization, and distress in response to negative emotion) was significantly associated with emotion inhibition (i.e., ambivalence over emotional expression, thought suppression, and avoidant stress responses). Further, emotion inhibition significantly predicted psychological distress, including depression and anxiety symptoms.)

Invalidation goes beyond mere rejection by implying not only that our feelings are disapproved of, but that we are fundamentally abnormal.  This implies that there is something wrong with us because we aren't like everyone else; we are strange; we are different; we are weird.

None of this feels good, and all of it damages us. The more different from the mass norm a person is, for example, more intelligent or more sensitive, the more he is likely to be invalidated. When we are invalidated by having our feelings repudiated, we are attacked at the deepest level possible, since our feelings are the innermost expression of our individual identities.

Psychological invalidation is one of the most lethal forms of emotional abuse. It kills confidence, creativity and individuality.

Telling a person she shouldn't feel the way she does feel is akin to telling water it shouldn't be wet, grass it shouldn't be green, or rocks they shouldn't be hard. Each person's feelings are real. Whether we like or understand someone's feelings, they are still real. Rejecting feelings is rejecting reality; it is to fight nature and may be called a crime against nature, "psychological murder", or "soul murder." Considering that trying to fight feelings, rather than accept them, is trying to fight all of nature, you can see why it is so frustrating, draining and futile.

A good guideline is:  First accept the feelings, then address the behavior.

One the great leaders in education, Haim Ginott, said this:  Primum non nocere- First do no harm. Do not deny your teenager's perception. Do not argue with his experience. Do not disown his feelings.

We regularly invalidate others because we ourselves were, and are often invalidated, so it has become habitual. Below are a few of the many ways we are invalidated:

We are told we shouldn't feel the way we feel
We are dictated not to feel the way we feel
We are told we are too sensitive, too "dramatic"
We are ignored
We are judged
We are led to believe there is something wrong with us for feeling how we feel

You Can't Heal an Emotional Wound with Logic

People with high IQ and low EQ tend to use logic to address emotional issues. They may say, "You are not being rational. There is no reason for you to feel the way you do. Let's look at the facts." Businesses, for example, and "professionals" are traditionally out of balance towards logic at the expense of emotions. This tends to alienate people and diminish their potential.

Actually, all emotions do have a basis in reality, and feelings are facts, fleeting though they may be.  But trying to dress an emotional wound, with logic tends to either confuse, sadden or infuriate a person. Or it may eventually isolate them from their feelings, with a resulting loss of major part of their natural intelligence.

Remember:

You can't solve an emotional problem, or heal an emotional wound, with logic alone.

There are many forms of invalidation. Most of them are so insidious that we don't even know what is happening. We know that something doesn't feel good, but we sometimes can't put our finger on it. We have been conditioned to think that invalidation is "normal." Indeed, it is extremely common, but it is certainly not healthy.

I have heard parents and teachers call children:  dramatic, crybabies, whiners, whingers, too sensitive, worry warts, drama queens.  I have also heard them say things like: "He cries at the drop of a hat." One teacher said "When she starts to cry, I just ignore her and eventually she stops." Another said, "When one kid's crying is disrupting the lesson, I tell them to go cry in the hall till they can pull themselves back together again."  All these labels and statements are invalidating and do emotional harm to children and sensitive teens and adults.

Our world will be a safer place when we learn to stop invalidating one another.

Source:  http://eqi.org/invalid.htm

So you're just feeling invalidated? Sorry to hear that.

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This is just weird how the thread turned out. No one in any way attacks anyone but someone gets uber defensive at the slightest question. I think maybe that someone needs to step away from the internet for a bit. First of all, it's hard to read tone in text. Second, if you took that one question as an insult...then in truth, you are the one being overly defensive for whatever personal issues you have.

Perhaps I'm beating a dead horse, but I really need to understand this.

But......what exactly are you detoxing?

What was rude and aggressive about these seemingly ubiquitous six words?

Perhaps I'm beating a dead horse, but I really need to understand this.

But......what exactly are you detoxing?

What was rude and aggressive about these seemingly ubiquitous six words?

If you are adressing me, I wrote exactly what I thought was offensive above, and it had nothing to do with those six words.

Perhaps I'm beating a dead horse, but I really need to understand this.

But......what exactly are you detoxing?

What was rude and aggressive about these seemingly ubiquitous six words?

If you are adressing me, I wrote exactly what I thought was offensive above, and it had nothing to do with those six words.

So you weren't offended by the question?

Perhaps I'm beating a dead horse, but I really need to understand this.

But......what exactly are you detoxing?

What was rude and aggressive about these seemingly ubiquitous six words?

If you are adressing me, I wrote exactly what I thought was offensive above, and it had nothing to do with those six words.

So you weren't offended by the question?

No. It's a legitimate question given the thread.