I ATE PIZZA AND ICE CREAM BED, WOKE UP LESS FAT
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Topic was supposed to read "BEFORE BED." *facepalm*
I thought you just ate an entire bed full of of ice cream. Frankly I'm a little sad you didn't
That would give me a tummy ache :sick:
I'll stick withe ice cream sammie :bigsmile:0 -
He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth. Pizza, ice cream, iguana sticks, etc may not work for some people due to a medical condition such as diabetes. However, if you are free from disease (And most of you are. Your thyroid is fine.) then it's all about the caloric deficit.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight. Desperate people arrive on forums like this and are told that hamburgers are fattening and they should only eat pancakes once and a while , which sets them up for failure.
It sounds exhausting to care so much about what other people eat and think.0 -
To all of the people telling noobs they have to eat baby carrots and boca burgers to lose weight. To all of the people that think "fattening foods" exist. Stop. Just stop.
I got home late last night, ate a small frozen microwave pizza and an ice cream sandwich 15 minutes before I fell asleep in bed. Woke up down nearly a pound. AND I HAD TWO MCDOUBLES FOR LUNCH. Finished the day 50 calories under my goal (which is a 30% deficit).
Eat what you want. Just manage it and stay in a deficit.
Funny to see a newbie talked about "noobs". Talk to me when you under 20% BF at the minimum. Or when you sustained your weight loss for over 6 months.
If you do any research, you'll notice 1 lb "loss" is water weight. You don't magically lose a lb of fat after one night.
I "lost" 3 lb after the weekend going back on Keto. No it was just the water weight flushing out.
Btw I eat 3000 calories on Friday for my carb up every week and still lose weight. Ice Cream, Sushi, Fast Food, you name it. Then again, I eat Chicken, Shrimp, Fish, Nuts, and Broccoli 5 days a week.
Thank you, Doctor for backing my point.0 -
It's much, much easier to fit various foods into a target as the calorie objective rises. Just throwing that out there.
For a lot of people using MFP, one mcdouble+fries and 1 slice of pizza = you're done for the day and your macros are f'd.0 -
If you are in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. For every 500 calories a day you will lose a lb a week roughly.
I've lost 600-800 lbs over the past 20 years, 60lb one time on nothing but fast food. It's no big deal if you know what you're putting into your body you can lose weight by maintaining a deficit. Done. The real trick is ~keeping the weight off~ regardless of how you're changing your diet. You can get enormously fat eating very clean (I've done it).
All said and done for health reasons though, you should try to up your fresh veggies, non-steroid laden meats, and heart healthy fats... but you can be perfectly successful at losing weight eating nearly anything in moderation... and if you have a lot of weight to lose usually the benefits of becoming non-obese outweigh, at least for some time, the crappy stuff in cheap processed foods.
Long term though, I think eating a diet of foods that you plan on maintaining indefinitely is the best way to lose weight and keep it off.0 -
Love me some Popsicles and ice cream at the end of the day!!0
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I always wake up lighter than the night before, in fact normally 1 kg lighter than when I went to bed so I would imagine you could probably get away with eating quite a bit and you still would be lighter than the night before, albeit not much lighter.0
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If you do any research, you'll notice 1 lb "loss" is water weight. You don't magically lose a lb of fat after one night.
You are correct, Doctor. You also know that a pound of fat is roughly 3500 calories. A 30% deficit plus consistent exercise can reach that in a few days.
It's not magical. Neither is it rocket science.0 -
He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight.
It "doesn't affect you", and yet here you are. And that next quoted line contradicts yourself. If it didn't affect you, you wouldn't "take offense" to what some preach to others.0 -
sounds like you have the best of both worlds. I too think you can eat whatever you want as long as its in moderation. Drinking too. I haven't had a beer in two weeks and this weekend I'm having a beer!....or 5. Keep enjoying your pizza and ice cream as long as it's working for you
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Your Ice Cream bed hasnt got anything on my Hammock of Cake.0
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It's much, much easier to fit various foods into a target as the calorie objective rises. Just throwing that out there.
For a lot of people using MFP, one mcdouble+fries and 1 slice of pizza = you're done for the day and your macros are f'd.
My heart goes out to people eating only 1000 calories / day.0 -
Nutrient densed food helps fill you and leaves you less hungry as you're body is craving nutrition, vitamins. Sure you can eat junk, monitor it and come below your calorie goal butttt you're still get hungry. And it's not just about counting calories, just picture your arteries clogging and what else you are doing to your insides. I'm no food saint .. just my 2 cents.0
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You have no idea how relieved i am to read this thread. I had a chip roll, sweets and crisps over the weekend and i literally feel like it was the end of the world. I havent weighed myself because im doing that once a week (wednesday) so im being super careful right now and exercising (in this damn heat its almost impossible though!) and hopefully on wednesday i'll be down a bit, but im definitely NOT doing those bad things this week, but im sure i will slip up, and its nice to know its not the end of the world.
THANKS!!! xxxx0 -
what about nutrition?
That doesn't factor in with a lot of the people in the General Diet and Weight Loss Help and Food and Nutrition forums on mfp. If you eat garbage and lose weight you're doing it right, regardless of what havoc it may doing to other facets of your health. You will get flamed mercilessly for being concerned about your overall health vs. dropping a pound or two.0 -
Negative, people fail with diets cause of one two things.
1) They set their deficit so low that their BMR shoots way down. When they resume a "normal" diet, their body has trouble adjusting and their weight shoots right back to where they were.
How to Solve: CKD, which boosts leptin levels sufficiently to keep your motor high. Do a small deficit at around 10-20% max. Anymore your setting yourself for failure when recomping.
2) They can't control their cravings and "bing out". Their diet feels like a "trap".
How to Solve: Go on Keto. Cut out the carbs / sugars. It will stave off hunger since you have a stable blood sugar. A good diet is a diet you love without having those cravings.
BTW: Why do you think people recommend vegetables? Because it FILLS YOU UP. 2 huge containers of green giant steamed brocolli has the same amount of calories as one MCDS HAMBURGER. You physically cannot be hungry if you chow down on your veggies all day, cause your stomach is filled to max. Another nice Body Hack.
Also a lot of clueless people tend to fill their "Healthy Salad" with real crappy salad dressing that just negates the whole point of eating a salad (to put filler space on your stomach).
Salt and Pepper + Steamed Veggies. Then use that excess for delicious meat / fat prodcts.He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth. Pizza, ice cream, iguana sticks, etc may not work for some people due to a medical condition such as diabetes. However, if you are free from disease (And most of you are. Your thyroid is fine.) then it's all about the caloric deficit.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight. Desperate people arrive on forums like this and are told that hamburgers are fattening and they should only eat pancakes once and a while , which sets them up for failure.0 -
It's much, much easier to fit various foods into a target as the calorie objective rises. Just throwing that out there.
For a lot of people using MFP, one mcdouble+fries and 1 slice of pizza = you're done for the day and your macros are f'd.
My heart goes out to people eating only 1000 calories / day.
Yep. They're doing it wrong. But Mcdouble+fries+slice = ~1500 calories.0 -
He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight.
It "doesn't affect you", and yet here you are. And that next quoted line contradicts yourself. If it didn't affect you, you wouldn't "take offense" to what some preach to others.
You are correct. My statement was a logical incompatibility. Sorry about that. I stand by my second sentence.0 -
Omg you are soooooooo right. Sometimes when we spend so long on a restricted caloric diet our body needs a shake up with some non diet foods. It totally helps to confuse your body so it never really gets set on burning the same amount of calories. You have totally hit the nail on the head with this one:)0
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He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth. Pizza, ice cream, iguana sticks, etc may not work for some people due to a medical condition such as diabetes. However, if you are free from disease (And most of you are. Your thyroid is fine.) then it's all about the caloric deficit.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight. Desperate people arrive on forums like this and are told that hamburgers are fattening and they should only eat pancakes once and a while , which sets them up for failure.
My husband is 6'1" and weighs between 150-160 and he eats whatever he wants. He has a great metabolism. Does eating McDoubles, pizza or ice cream make him fat? NO. Does it make him healthy? NO. His most recent blood panel showed he had high cholesterol. He does not have diabetes, no hypothyroid (or hyper for that matter) and heart disease doesn't run in his family. He can run miles even if he hasn't exercised in months and he can pass every fitness test the military gives him. Does that make him healthy? Not according to his cholesterol levels. He needs to not eat McDoubles and pizza and ice cream in order to be healthy, NOT THIN. Please don't confuse the two.0 -
what about nutrition?
That doesn't factor in with a lot of the people in the General Diet and Weight Loss Help and Food and Nutrition forums on mfp. If you eat garbage and lose weight you're doing it right, regardless of what havoc it may doing to other facets of your health. You will get flamed mercilessly for being concerned about your overall health vs. dropping a pound or two.
QFT0 -
yep I went to a chinese buffet, had 3 plates of lemon chicken with noodles plus 2 pieces of cake and jelly plus chocolate marshmallows and who knows what else and still lost 1lb last week. Got another buffet and bbq end of this week so who knows! I was 10st 11lbs last week and today im 10st 9bs so who knows how lost 1.5-2lbs lol0
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But I do have a nice rack, thank you. Kind of seems like the points system from WW, where you "eat what you want" in moderation. Veggies don't hurt though (well, pineapple does if you don't take off the outer layer).0
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It's much, much easier to fit various foods into a target as the calorie objective rises. Just throwing that out there.
For a lot of people using MFP, one mcdouble+fries and 1 slice of pizza = you're done for the day and your macros are f'd.
My heart goes out to people eating only 1000 calories / day.
Yep. They're doing it wrong. But Mcdouble+fries+slice = ~1500 calories.
Mcdouble (390 cal) + Medium fries (380 cal) + Dominos small cheese pizza slice (190 cal) = 960 calories.0 -
You have no idea how relieved i am to read this thread. I had a chip roll, sweets and crisps over the weekend and i literally feel like it was the end of the world. I havent weighed myself because im doing that once a week (wednesday) so im being super careful right now and exercising (in this damn heat its almost impossible though!) and hopefully on wednesday i'll be down a bit, but im definitely NOT doing those bad things this week, but im sure i will slip up, and its nice to know its not the end of the world.
THANKS!!! xxxx
You're welcome! I sent you a PM with a MFP resource I think will help you a lot. Don't give up!0 -
I agree and disagree with you. I don't think that you have to be on a rigid diet, which you deprive yourself completely of foods that are high in fat, sugar or whatever. It is okay to eat pizza, ice cream or any single food BUT if you eat the carrots and other healthier options often the more happy and healthy your body will be. Weightloss is only one benefit from improving your eating habits. Eating a variety of food is endlessly beneficial. I do know, I get frustrated when people know that I'm losing weight and they see me eat something and ask, "Can you eat that?" Um, yes, I can eat anything I want....just not everything, lol.0
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lolBut I do have a nice rack, thank you. Kind of seems like the points system from WW, where you "eat what you want" in moderation. Veggies don't hurt though (well, pineapple does if you don't take off the outer layer).0 -
Negative, people fail with diets cause of one two things.
1) They set their deficit so low that their BMR shoots way down. When they resume a "normal" diet, their body has trouble adjusting and their weight shoots right back to where they were.
How to Solve: CKD, which boosts leptin levels sufficiently to keep your motor high. Do a small deficit at around 10-20% max. Anymore your setting yourself for failure when recomping.
2) They can't control their cravings and "bing out". Their diet feels like a "trap".
How to Solve: Go on Keto. Cut out the carbs / sugars. It will stave off hunger since you have a stable blood sugar. A good diet is a diet you love without having those cravings.
BTW: Why do you think people recommend vegetables? Because it FILLS YOU UP. 2 huge containers of green giant steamed brocolli has the same amount of calories as one MCDS HAMBURGER. You physically cannot be hungry if you chow down on your veggies all day, cause your stomach is filled to max. Another nice Body Hack.
Also a lot of clueless people tend to fill their "Healthy Salad" with real crappy salad dressing that just negates the whole point of eating a salad (to put filler space on your stomach).
Salt and Pepper + Steamed Veggies. Then use that excess for delicious meat / fat prodcts.
What you are saying is absolutely true, Doctor. The problem I've found personally with ketogenic diets is cycling off of them after major weight loss. Carb refeeds turned into falling off the bandwagon and eating the SAD (Which is everything WITHOUT MODERATION).
As far as eating 300+ calories of straight vegetables vs. a mcdouble, your average person doesn't want to eat that way exclusively. They want to know it's ok to eat a burger and still be able to maintain weight or lose weight. We've already seen someone chime in on this thread that they thought it was the end of the world because they ate what they thought was "poorly." That is the wrong message to send.0 -
Yep. They're doing it wrong. But Mcdouble+fries+slice = ~1500 calories.
McDouble: 390
Fries: 230/380/500
1 Lg (14") Slice of Meat Lovers Pizza from Pizza Hut: 380/400/470 (depending on crust) (and less if the pizza was medium/small.)
Range: 1000 - 1360.
I'd guess a regular value meal with a mcdouble if there was fries and that would put it at 1170 with a normal crust on the pizza... McDoubles aren't good, but it's not THAT bad. Now if you want a serious high calorie McDonalds meal check out the Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese, Large Fries, & McCafe 22oz Chocolate Shake... that's 2090 calories.0 -
what about nutrition?
That doesn't factor in with a lot of the people in the General Diet and Weight Loss Help and Food and Nutrition forums on mfp. If you eat garbage and lose weight you're doing it right, regardless of what havoc it may doing to other facets of your health. You will get flamed mercilessly for being concerned about your overall health vs. dropping a pound or two.
I notice this ^^ too.0
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