I ATE PIZZA AND ICE CREAM BED, WOKE UP LESS FAT

Funny to see a newbie talked about "noobs". Talk to me when you under 20% BF at the minimum. Or when you sustained your weight loss for over 6 months.

Great job logging, BTW.

Its called using a notebook and inputting at the end of the day:

12 OZ chicken (or nutritional equiv)
2 Packs of Steamers
2 TBL of Mayo / Siracha
80 pieces of almonds each day

Total = 1600 calories + PWO.

Then again I must be doing something wrong:

http://i.imgur.com/XKKY7mk.jpg

Please stop trolling people who need help with this bad advice thread.

what about nutrition?

Although it is good to eat in moderation, in order to become a healthier being, some foods are better for you than others. Many foods, such as baby carrots, have fat more vitamins and other good nutrients than ice cream, pizza, and burgers do - weight loss and becoming healthy isn't only about calories.

Funny to see a newbie talked about "noobs". Talk to me when you under 20% BF at the minimum. Or when you sustained your weight loss for over 6 months.

Great job logging, BTW.

Its called using a notebook and inputting at the end of the day:

12 OZ chicken (or nutritional equiv)
2 Packs of Steamers
2 TBL of Mayo / Siracha
80 pieces of almonds each day

Total = 1600 calories + PWO.

Then again I must be doing something wrong:

http://i.imgur.com/XKKY7mk.jpg

Please stop trolling people who need help with this bad advice thread.

I don't think it's trolling, and I don't think it's bad advice. All he is saying is that you don't need to eat clean to lose weight. Yes, it's a topic that is repeated over and over again. But if you think he is trolling, you don't know what that word means. And if you think it's bad advice, well to each their own.

As he said in his misplaced reply to me: "To help people not fall off the wagon because they ate an ice cream cone". That there is incredibly good advice.

...or this is why you're down 11 pounds and not down 13.


you look at it as "victory i didn't gain weight"

i look at it as lost progress.

Negative, people fail with diets cause of one two things.

1) They set their deficit so low that their BMR shoots way down. When they resume a "normal" diet, their body has trouble adjusting and their weight shoots right back to where they were.

How to Solve: CKD, which boosts leptin levels sufficiently to keep your motor high. Do a small deficit at around 10-20% max. Anymore your setting yourself for failure when recomping.

2) They can't control their cravings and "bing out". Their diet feels like a "trap".

How to Solve: Go on Keto. Cut out the carbs / sugars. It will stave off hunger since you have a stable blood sugar. A good diet is a diet you love without having those cravings.

BTW: Why do you think people recommend vegetables? Because it FILLS YOU UP. 2 huge containers of green giant steamed brocolli has the same amount of calories as one MCDS HAMBURGER. You physically cannot be hungry if you chow down on your veggies all day, cause your stomach is filled to max. Another nice Body Hack.

Also a lot of clueless people tend to fill their "Healthy Salad" with real crappy salad dressing that just negates the whole point of eating a salad (to put filler space on your stomach).

Salt and Pepper + Steamed Veggies. Then use that excess for delicious meat / fat prodcts.


Unfortunately, the world isn't so black and white. People fail at diets for many reasons, you named 2 of many. Physical health, mental health and realtionship with food, among other things, can't be solved by "CKD" or just going "Keto". Also, a good diet isn't a diet you love without the cravings. A good diet is a diet that can be sustained over your lifetime. A good diet is a diet where you can satisfy your cravings, while not sabotaging your goals. What the OP is getting at is that there is more than one way to achieve your lifestyle goals. You don't have to eat 100% "clean" foods to see results. To each his/her own, but there are many ways to live a "healthy" lifestyle.

Also, while eating a bunch of vegetables might make you feel full, that is not the reason to eat them. Satisfying micro-nutrient goals, overall health and well being are more important that "feeling full". And while you might not be hungry after "chowing down" on vegetables all day, I personally need loads of protein and carbs to feel "full". But that's just me. It doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

Lastly, you mention body fat %, almost as if somone's views or beliefs aren't valid unless they are sub 20%? Where did you arrive at this magical number? So someone under 20% knows more than someone over 20%? What is your bf% Looking at your pics, I think I am much lower than you. Does that mean I should totally disregard your post?

...or this is why you're down 11 pounds and not down 13.


you look at it as "victory i didn't gain weight"

i look at it as lost progress.

He was under his calorie target. For pure weight loss, he stayed on track. So no lost progress.

That's just a philosophy for lazy people. Eat correctly and you will get better results. Rationalizing it in this manner doesn't contribute to a lifestyle change.

Rushing to eat a pizza and ice cream when you're so tired that you can fall asleep in 15 minutes. That's not even hunger, that's just being mentally weak. Boasting about it makes me certain you won't even succeed.

Why on earth would you eat such garbage food when you've admitted you need to lose weight. It'd be like buying a $2000 tv when you're severely in debt, why needlessly add to it?

Why be content at 11lbs lost and then eat pizza/ice cream when you could have had a salad or something light and be at 12/13lbs lost.