Trainer says not to use weights until losing weight?
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Yes, because a body builder who goes through their "bulking" season will not lift any weights during their "cutting" phase. What could THEY possibly know about burning fat with weight lifting?
That trainer is a moron and needs to read a few weightlifting articles. Maybe even a book. I recommend a science book.0 -
He's an idiot, plain and simple.
You should definitely be using weights while losing weight. It will help you maintain more of your muscle, meaning you look more toned when you reach your goal. What would you (or your sister in this case) rather, lose 10lbs fat, or 10lbs fat and muscle?? I know which one I'd rather have!
ETA: I've always used weights while losing weight. Biggest weight loss was 21lbs, never felt that I've looked "boxy" because of it.
I totally agree, I always cringe when I see him walking my way. He's just annoying. Good for you losing 21 pounds the right way!
Can't you put earphones in and pretend you cannot hear what he is saying to you?0 -
I haven't done cardio in 3 weeks and have only lifted 4 to 5 days a week. I have lost 4 lbs in that time. So I think the trainer is wrong!0
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Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. Good luck to you and your friend!0
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Wow. Things like this make me wonder what it actually takes to become a trainer :huh:0
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Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. There is a video that you can watch at www.uncommonwebshop.com. Just click on the weight loss link. (I do not want you to by anything), my website receives over 1,500 visitor's a day, so im good. All I ask is if you find the sitehelpful to you, please tell a friend. The first video is an inspirational video. Hope I helped, Good luck to you and your friend!
Oh my heavens NO!0 -
Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. There is a video that you can watch at www.uncommonwebshop.com. Just click on the weight loss link. (I do not want you to by anything), my website receives over 1,500 visitor's a day, so im good. All I ask is if you find the sitehelpful to you, please tell a friend. The first video is an inspirational video. Hope I helped, Good luck to you and your friend!
How...just how...does adipose tissue turn into muscle tissue?
Go ahead. I'll wait.0 -
Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. Good luck to you and your friend!
Fat never turns into muscle and for the record, muscle never turns into fat.
Where did you hear that from and think it was so?0 -
He's an idiot, plain and simple.
You should definitely be using weights while losing weight. It will help you maintain more of your muscle, meaning you look more toned when you reach your goal. What would you (or your sister in this case) rather, lose 10lbs fat, or 10lbs fat and muscle?? I know which one I'd rather have!
ETA: I've always used weights while losing weight. Biggest weight loss was 21lbs, never felt that I've looked "boxy" because of it.
I totally agree, I always cringe when I see him walking my way. He's just annoying. Good for you losing 21 pounds the right way!
Can't you put earphones in and pretend you cannot hear what he is saying to you?
LOL this is what I normally do, but when I work out with someone else I don't use it so we can communicate easier.0 -
Lol, THIS must be the trainer.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. Good luck to you and your friend!
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He's full of it. The best way to lose weight is to incorporate strength training to increase lean muscle, lower body fat percentage, and overall improve your body composition. My only regret in my weight loss was not to do strength more in the very beginning and not just cardio all the time.
^^^this..
I started losing weight by circuit training with weights.. He's a certified ding ding.0 -
I have no words....
Run the other way.
Edit: Actually, send him my way so I can set him straight lol. Lost 50 pounds with only weight training, and only after ditching the hours of cardio I did.0 -
Lol, THIS must be the trainer.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Hi, I'm Oneal, and I hate to say it, but the jerk youre talking about is right. If you start strength training at a bulky state, instead of losing the bulkiness, you will turn it into muscle. You don't want extra fat turning into muscle because it will freeze the body in it's present state. For losing weight you shouldn't start out with any weights until close to the weight you desire. Good luck to you and your friend!
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Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
OMG! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
I have no words....
Run the other way.
Edit: Actually, send him my way so I can set him straight lol. Lost 50 pounds with only weight training, and only after ditching the hours of cardio I did.
From your avatar you look freaking amazing! You would set him real straight!0 -
This! It really needs to be brought to management's attention because he is not helping- actually harming people- by giving incorrect advice. Good for you for standing up to him.Does the gym actually pay this person? Members need to let management know how bad he is.0 -
You have good things to say.
Cheers mate.
I think the issue also revolves around "traditional" or "conventional" advice which was based more on subjective opinion and anecdotal evidence from the gym floor- "this is the way we've always done it and it's worked so why change?"
Clearly there has been a move away from that to more evidence based fitness in recent times but you can explain the science until you are blue in the face but the traditional view is so entrenched that convincing people otherwise is a hard job. Half the time it comes down to them simply having faith that what you are saying is correct in the absence of learning methods for themselves.
Fitness - it's always been a tribal religion
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Fixed itAsk this fool does he even lift BRO?!?!0 -
The problem is this: In the world of today it is WAY too easy for anyone to get a trainer certification. This is why reputable gyms are placing a higher emphasis on college background now more than ever.0
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Every now & then my sister will come to the gym with me. She isn't really over weight, but she is on the thicker side & would probably like to lose 10-15 pounds. Anyway she did the elliptical & then came to do abs with me & she was using one of the weighted ab machines. Anyway, one of the trainers came over & told her she shouldn't be using any weights until she loses weight because it will make her look boxy. I told him all the research I have ever done has told me that you should be doing & weights & cardio together even when trying to lose weight. He says I'm wrong, I think he is a jerk. But that's besides the point. I feel you should be toning your body while losing weight. What are your opinions?
I'd find another gym that didn't have such idiotic trainers
Very true. Luckily I don't let what he says influence me, he is always coming over & giving unwanted advice & I let it go in through one ear & out the other.
Unsolicited advice is THE WORST. Especially when the person has no idea wtf they are talking about. He is the reason why sometimes people get frustrated and quit. Ignore him!0 -
THIS. At my Wellness Center, not only do they need at least a degree in either physiology, kinesiology, biokinetics, etc., but they are required to complete 16 classes (attend and engage) from different classes available, observe and note 3 different trainers, teach a group class, design and instruct a class, complete 30 assessments before they can have a client.The problem is this: In the world of today it is WAY too easy for anyone to get a trainer certification. This is why reputable gyms are placing a higher emphasis on college background now more than ever.
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