What is a sport?
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Hurling
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Simple way to tell if a sport is a sport
Do you need special footwear to do it
If yes its a sport, if no, sorry it just aint0 -
Simple way to tell if a sport is a sport
Do you need special footwear to do it
If yes its a sport, if no, sorry it just aint
Some people need special footwear for life.
Is their life a sport?0 -
Is curling a sport? That one confuses me. It's objective, but stupid.
I'm pretty sure an additional criteria for sporthood should be "not stupid".
The Americans are going to have to come up with some new stuff to play then if they want anything to call a sport
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Everything is a sport...
...except baseball.0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.0 -
I suppose that is an appropriate application but if it is an aposiopesis it wouldn't be a simple omission. As I understand it that would mean you were either unwilling or unable to proceed. I have been out of college for years so it might have a more broad definition than that.
Dangit. Beat me to the punch. Sorry for using four periods.... I kind of just put my finger on the period key......
Using an ellipsis as an aposiopesis is a perfectly valid application. It still shouldn't have four points though.I do think that you should not be using four periods in an ellipsis. You should also only use an ellipsis to indicate an omission. Since you are not quoting nobody has any way of knowing what you are omitting. So I guess you are just trying to tell us that you had more to say but chose not to. Or it could be you just don't know what an ellipsis is.0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
I would argue that American football is the epitome of sport. Well, that and boxing and MMA.
At least there's far less cuddling then one sees in rugby.0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
I would argue that American football is the epitome of sport. Well, that and boxing and MMA.
At least there's far less cuddling then one sees in rugby.
WSJ did a study and found the ball was actually in play during an American football match for about 11 minutes. How can anything that can last up to three hours from the start of a game to the end of a game where the game is only actually being played for 11 minutes be classed as the epitome of sport? It's about as valid a claim as saying that running to the end of your street, standing there for an hour and running back home makes you a distance runner. A rugby game has a clock time of 80 minutes. At the last world cup the ball was in play for 47 minutes in each match. And I don't care for rugby, I never watch it, but it has a lot more claim to being a 'sport'.0 -
Hurling
The game of Legends
Hurling is the epitome of sport.
If you're not from Ireland, or if you're not part of it's cult following worldwide (I play it in the States), Google it.0 -
I pretty much agree here. There are "sports" out there considered sports with NO ATHLETIC ability whatsoever. Good examples are: Curling, bowling, golf, bodybuilding, and dare I say it, NASCAR. These are competitive events with "gifted" skilled people, but not necessarily athletic in their endeavor.I've had this debate many times and one of my friends and I came up with what I think is a pretty good definition. Something is a sport if and only if the action is decided by the players/officials on the field (i.e. football, basketball, volleyball, tennis, track and field, weight lifting, golf, etc). If the outcome is decided by a judge (diving, cheerleading, gymnastics, etc), then it is an athletic competition but NOT a sport.
Let me fight off all the indignation from the get go. I absolutely recognize that cheerleaders and gymnasts and divers are athletes. They have talent, they have ability and they work hard at their craft. I am not, in any way, attempting to minimize their efforts or accomplishments. But their chosen event does not, in my opinion, qualify as a sport because the outcome is beyond their ultimate control.
Thoughts?
As mentioned, I think that gymnasts, cheerleaders, and even ballroom dancers, have much better athletic abilities than those I've mentioned above.
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If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
I would argue that American football is the epitome of sport. Well, that and boxing and MMA.
At least there's far less cuddling then one sees in rugby.
WSJ did a study and found the ball was actually in play during an American football match for about 11 minutes. How can anything that can last up to three hours from the start of a game to the end of a game where the game is only actually being played for 11 minutes be classed as the epitome of sport? It's about as valid a claim as saying that running to the end of your street, standing there for an hour and running back home makes you a distance runner. A rugby game has a clock time of 80 minutes. At the last world cup the ball was in play for 47 minutes in each match. And I don't care for rugby, I never watch it, but it has a lot more claim to being a 'sport'.
they can run around more because they aren't getting hit as hard. padding allows players to launch themselves at a much higher velocity and hit their opponent with more force. think of punching someone. how many times can you punch someone without a glove? not many...you will break your hand. now how many times can you punch someone with a glove? you can punch until your arms get tired.
with the injuries in the NFL today some people want to decrease the pads and eliminate the helmet so that they wont hit each other as hard.0 -
Unless there's a KO. Boxing/MMA or any "fighting" venue is usually subjective to even the crowds on who won unless there's a KO.Pretty sure track & field as well as weight lifting use "judging" as well. As a matter of fact all officiating is essentially "judging" if you want to get right down to it. An official can absolutely have an effect on the outcome of a game based on their good or bad judgement call on a play, move, etc.....
That's why I said players/officials on the field. Track & field is based on times or distance. That's not subjective. Weight lifting is based on weight. Also not subjective.
Boxing is an interesting example because yes, it is a sport, but can come down to a judge's decision. Hmmmmm.......
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I pretty much agree here. There are "sports" out there considered sports with NO ATHLETIC ability whatsoever. Good examples are: Curling, bowling, golf, bodybuilding, and dare I say it, NASCAR. These are competitive events with "gifted" skilled people, but not necessarily athletic in their endeavor.
As mentioned, I think that gymnasts, cheerleaders, and even ballroom dancers, have much better athletic abilities than those I've mentioned above.
I can't speak for NASCAR (I'm guessing it's far less important, what with nowhere near the downforce levels or braking speeds), but F1 drivers routinely get hit with G-forces of 5+ and whilst it might not seem like an athletically demanding 'sport', they have to be in phenomenally good shape and very athletic to be able to do it. I know many of them are triathletes to maintain the fitness required.0 -
Blasphemy on American football NOT being a sport. The athletes on there are usually much faster, quicker, agile than counter parts of the same size and weight and ability. I hear all the time that "but they take 40 second breaks between plays". Do me a favor..........carry or push your own weight for about 15 seconds, then tell me 40 seconds is too long to recover.If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
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One could go on extreme roller coasters (there are some up to 6 G's) all day. There are some who have successfully attempted it, but I would by no means put them in an athletic category.I pretty much agree here. There are "sports" out there considered sports with NO ATHLETIC ability whatsoever. Good examples are: Curling, bowling, golf, bodybuilding, and dare I say it, NASCAR. These are competitive events with "gifted" skilled people, but not necessarily athletic in their endeavor.
As mentioned, I think that gymnasts, cheerleaders, and even ballroom dancers, have much better athletic abilities than those I've mentioned above.
I can't speak for NASCAR (I'm guessing it's far less important, what with nowhere near the downforce levels or braking speeds), but F1 drivers routinely get hit with G-forces of 5+ and whilst it might not seem like an athletically demanding 'sport', they have to be in phenomenally good shape and very athletic to be able to do it. I know many of them are triathletes to maintain the fitness required.
Anybody doing ANYTHING in life will probably do it better if they are in shape physically.
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One could go on extreme roller coasters (there are some up to 6 G's) all day. There are some who have successfully attempted it, but I would by no means put them in an athletic category.
Anybody doing ANYTHING in life will probably do it better if they are in shape physically.
that comment shows you know nothing about racing. for your comment to be valid F1 racers would have to sit in their cars and not participate in piloting it at all. what they actually do is fight against those G forces with steering and breaking.
at least you are correct about football.
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If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
I would argue that American football is the epitome of sport. Well, that and boxing and MMA.
At least there's far less cuddling then one sees in rugby.
WSJ did a study and found the ball was actually in play during an American football match for about 11 minutes. How can anything that can last up to three hours from the start of a game to the end of a game where the game is only actually being played for 11 minutes be classed as the epitome of sport? It's about as valid a claim as saying that running to the end of your street, standing there for an hour and running back home makes you a distance runner. A rugby game has a clock time of 80 minutes. At the last world cup the ball was in play for 47 minutes in each match. And I don't care for rugby, I never watch it, but it has a lot more claim to being a 'sport'.
they can run around more because they aren't getting hit as hard. padding allows players to launch themselves at a much higher velocity and hit their opponent with more force. think of punching someone. how many times can you punch someone without a glove? not many...you will break your hand. now how many times can you punch someone with a glove? you can punch until your arms get tired.
with the injuries in the NFL today some people want to decrease the pads and eliminate the helmet so that they wont hit each other as hard.
Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that very little actual game happens. If association football was changed to allow players to wear helmets and kick each other in the face, and consequently the games went from being 10 minutes in play instead of 60, it wouldn't make the participants better athletes, and it would make the sport tediously dull. If there is more advert time than ball-in-play time then it stops being a spectator sport and becomes a marketing vehicle.0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
Each of the sports you mentioned (even softball) are more interesting than soccer.
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Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that very little actual game happens. If association football was changed to allow players to wear helmets and kick each other in the face, and consequently the games went from being 10 minutes in play instead of 60, it wouldn't make the participants better athletes, and it would make the sport tediously dull. If there is more advert time than ball-in-play time then it stops being a spectator sport and becomes a marketing vehicle.
they are completely different sports. what about cricket and baseball? are they sports? lots of down time there too.
and for soccer you have players that when the ball is in play have very little to do with the action. of course they may be moving a little for position.
in football when the ball is in play ever single player is very important. so i wonder if we took time that the ball is in play and couple it with how engaged each player is i wonder if football would come out ahead? not that it matters though really. both sports are great. 0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
Each of the sports you mentioned (even softball) are more interesting than soccer.
Yawn.
softball is probably the 2nd worst sport on the planet. with number one being women's basketball. a sport that is meant to played above the rim isnt good for people who can barely touch it.
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Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that very little actual game happens. If association football was changed to allow players to wear helmets and kick each other in the face, and consequently the games went from being 10 minutes in play instead of 60, it wouldn't make the participants better athletes, and it would make the sport tediously dull. If there is more advert time than ball-in-play time then it stops being a spectator sport and becomes a marketing vehicle.
they are completely different sports. what about cricket and baseball? are they sports? lots of down time there too.
and for soccer you have players that when the ball is in play have very little to do with the action. of course they may be moving a little for position.
in football when the ball is in play ever single player is very important. so i wonder if we took time that the ball is in play and couple it with how engaged each player is i wonder if football would come out ahead? not that it matters though really. both sports are great.
It depends on many things, and again, how you're defining 'sport'. Cricket and baseball have next to no running. Cricket games last for days with players taking a break for a meal, coming straight back on and resuming playing. If you believe that you should never play sport on a full stomach then cricket ain't a sport
In soccer there are certainly differet demands depending on where you play and the style of the team, but a wide midfielder can run around 9 miles in a 90 minute game, whereas even the main runners in US football rarely break 1.25 miles.
http://gizmodo.com/5992583/how-far-do-you-run-in-different-sports
But as ever, each to their own. I enjoy watching and playing tennis which is very stop-start, as long as it flows well. Sometimes it gets tedious if it's taking too long between points. I like things to be happening!0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
Each of the sports you mentioned (even softball) are more interesting than soccer.
Yawn.
softball is probably the 2nd worst sport on the planet. with number one being women's basketball. a sport that is meant to played above the rim isnt good for people who can barely touch it.
Come on man, softball IS baseball, on a smaller field. Which means it's faster paced.
Women's basketball is basketball played by women. Not quite as exciting, but watch some women's hoops. It's more team-oriented (since one person's not dunking the ball every possession), and you can learn a lot about strategy - setting up those high percentage plays.
Worst sport in the world? I know it's a world-renowned sport, so my answer won't be popular with some, but CRICKET.
It's an all-day affair. You go into a match having no idea when it will end: it's TORTURE! In baseball, runs are exciting. In cricket, outs are exciting. I think that's because outs means the match is going to end sooner.0 -
Come on man, softball IS baseball, on a smaller field. Which means it's faster paced.
Women's basketball is basketball played by women. Not quite as exciting, but watch some women's hoops. It's more team-oriented (since one person's not dunking the ball every possession), and you can learn a lot about strategy - setting up those high percentage plays.
Worst sport in the world? I know it's a world-renowned sport, so my answer won't be popular with some, but CRICKET.
It's an all-day affair. You go into a match having no idea when it will end: it's TORTURE! In baseball, runs are exciting. In cricket, outs are exciting. I think that's because outs means the match is going to end sooner.
women's basketball compared to men's is like flag football compared to regular football. its an extremely watered down version of the sport.
they need to find the open person because they lack the athleticism to drive to the hoop.0 -
If it's a ball game and from the start to the end of the game the ball is not in play for at least a third of that duration, it's not a sport, it's a lot of standing around and every now and then doing something for a few seconds, and generally a waste of everyone's time. So yeah, baseball, cricket, American football and softball aren't sports.
And the likes of snooker and darts are games, not sports.
Each of the sports you mentioned (even softball) are more interesting than soccer.
Yawn.
softball is probably the 2nd worst sport on the planet. with number one being women's basketball. a sport that is meant to played above the rim isnt good for people who can barely touch it.
Come on man, softball IS baseball, on a smaller field. Which means it's faster paced.
Women's basketball is basketball played by women. Not quite as exciting, but watch some women's hoops. It's more team-oriented (since one person's not dunking the ball every possession), and you can learn a lot about strategy - setting up those high percentage plays.
Worst sport in the world? I know it's a world-renowned sport, so my answer won't be popular with some, but CRICKET.
It's an all-day affair. You go into a match having no idea when it will end: it's TORTURE! In baseball, runs are exciting. In cricket, outs are exciting. I think that's because outs means the match is going to end sooner.
That's softball players sign million dollar contracts.0 -
it makes me laugh when people consider bowling, darts, golf and fishing as sports :laugh:
they're all hobbies and if you can do something with a drink in your hand or actually be drunk, its not a sport :drinker: also, golfers ride carts everywhere, thus eliminating all exercise from the hobby :huh:0 -
it makes me laugh when people consider bowling, darts, golf and fishing as sports :laugh:
they're all hobbies and if you can do something with a drink in your hand or actually be drunk, its not a sport :drinker: also, golfers ride carts everywhere, thus eliminating all exercise from the hobby :huh:
Have you ever even seen a PGA championship?0 -
Yes I didn't factor that in, but I was directing the "physical" endurance of G forces on the body to saying that one doesn't have to be in excellent physical shape to endure them. No doubt the amount of steering a car at high speeds and turns involves some great physical conditioning on the arms, shoulders and back.One could go on extreme roller coasters (there are some up to 6 G's) all day. There are some who have successfully attempted it, but I would by no means put them in an athletic category.
Anybody doing ANYTHING in life will probably do it better if they are in shape physically.
that comment shows you know nothing about racing. for your comment to be valid F1 racers would have to sit in their cars and not participate in piloting it at all. what they actually do is fight against those G forces with steering and breaking.
at least you are correct about football.
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it makes me laugh when people consider bowling, darts, golf and fishing as sports :laugh:
they're all hobbies and if you can do something with a drink in your hand or actually be drunk, its not a sport :drinker: also, golfers ride carts everywhere, thus eliminating all exercise from the hobby :huh:
Have you ever even seen a PGA championship?
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If you consider "walking" a physical sport................................swinging the club isn't about physicality, it's about precision.it makes me laugh when people consider bowling, darts, golf and fishing as sports :laugh:
they're all hobbies and if you can do something with a drink in your hand or actually be drunk, its not a sport :drinker: also, golfers ride carts everywhere, thus eliminating all exercise from the hobby :huh:
Have you ever even seen a PGA championship?
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