Neighbor wanting Autistic Child to be Euthanized...

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    In some of the comments "somone claims it was a "Mother who sent the mail"

    It is addressed to "the lady living at this address" and signed, "One pissed off mother!!!!
    Oh, I missed that.
  • TwinkieDong
    TwinkieDong Posts: 1,564 Member
    wow. not even sure what to say. Stories like this make my soul, heart, and my outlook on people as horrible. The tenets and laws that bound us is a security blanket from people like this. When all moral aptitude and the security of a normal life has been taken then it is outlaw justice and havoc. sad really....I had a point but I am at a loss for words....

    I just hope the author of the note never has grandchildren with learning and or physical limitations.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    hahaha you're just jealous that we got the warm part of the continent. :)

    Since when are Canadians not American? MANIFEST DESTINY 4EVA!! Actually, you can keep them all except for Cont and Canadian president Michael Bublé. Let's see how well they fare without their president!
    I want to keep Michael Buble. You can have the twerpy kid back, though.
  • No! Just... no. This is so wrong. Autism isn't any different from depression, or anything else that isn't 'normal' in the mind. Also, there is no such thing as normal. This is just horrible. I'm an aspie, so I'm especially sensitive to this, but I imagine ANYONE, even any neuro-typical person, would find this shocking and offensive.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    This letter is disgusting! If that was my child being attacked I would be pressing charges once they figure out who sent this letter. It makes me sad thinking that someone could be this nasty.

    Charged with what? They didn't actually threaten anyone.
  • MsPudding
    MsPudding Posts: 562 Member
    Of course it may be that nobody else wrote the letter but the person who sent it to the press.

    I know it sounds odd, but recently here in the UK we had a case of a girl hanging herself due to bullying on ask.fm, but website owners confirmed that many of the hate messages were sent by herself.

    There's nowt stranger than folk out there and people have certainly done some strange things to get 15 minutes of press fame.
  • Kany
    Kany Posts: 336
    Reading the letter last night brought tears to my eyes. i don't know how anybody could be so cruel to even think about killing another person, let alone a child. What a despicable person.
  • JLN1974
    JLN1974 Posts: 104 Member
    Very sad to read this - unfortunately despite all the lessons which should have been learned since WW2 and all the progress made in the modern world, there are still many people out there who are bigoted, intolerant and ignorant. Sadly that woman is probably not the only one to feel that way, just one that has been publicised. For someone to say such awful things about a child is beyond comprehension to me.
  • were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.
    Excuse me? ALL people, no matter their nationality are perfectly capable of hate and bigotry. You've just proven that yourself.

    Well said!
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    hahaha you're just jealous that we got the warm part of the continent. :)

    Since when are Canadians not American? MANIFEST DESTINY 4EVA!! Actually, you can keep them all except for Cont and Canadian president Michael Bublé. Let's see how well they fare without their president!
    I want to keep Michael Buble. You can have the twerpy kid back, though.

    Nope. They are all yours, now. We aren't taking any of them back.
  • navyrigger46
    navyrigger46 Posts: 1,301 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    If memory serves, Einstein was on the autism spectrum as well, many geniuses are on the spectrum. Typical autistics are highly evolved problem solvers, they think, a lot, they analyze everything, it's never ending. The cure for cancer will likely be the product of an autistic mind. This person needs to face facts, the world has far more use for autistic people than it does for her.

    Rigger
  • Beastette
    Beastette Posts: 1,497 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    hahaha you're just jealous that we got the warm part of the continent. :)

    Since when are Canadians not American? MANIFEST DESTINY 4EVA!! Actually, you can keep them all except for Cont and Canadian president Michael Bublé. Let's see how well they fare without their president!
    I want to keep Michael Buble. You can have the twerpy kid back, though.

    Nope. They are all yours, now. We aren't taking any of them back.

    Yes, that includes YOU! I'd even keep Dion for that trade.
  • jenifr818
    jenifr818 Posts: 805 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    If memory serves, Einstein was on the autism spectrum as well, many geniuses are on the spectrum. Typical autistics are highly evolved problem solvers, they think, a lot, they analyze everything, it's never ending. The cure for cancer will likely be the product of an autistic mind. This person needs to face facts, the world has far more use for autistic people than it does for her.

    Rigger

    On the left ... um, so are you insulting lefties? That's an insult to 1/10th of the country. Us southpaws can't help it if we're awesome, y'know
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    If memory serves, Einstein was on the autism spectrum as well, many geniuses are on the spectrum. Typical autistics are highly evolved problem solvers, they think, a lot, they analyze everything, it's never ending. The cure for cancer will likely be the product of an autistic mind. This person needs to face facts, the world has far more use for autistic people than it does for her.

    Rigger

    On the left ... um, so are you insulting lefties? That's an insult to 1/10th of the country. Us southpaws can't help it if we're awesome, y'know
    Pity the lefties. They die sooner.
  • tripledipped13
    tripledipped13 Posts: 78 Member
    This letter is disgusting! If that was my child being attacked I would be pressing charges once they figure out who sent this letter. It makes me sad thinking that someone could be this nasty.

    Charged with what? They didn't actually threaten anyone.

    How about a hate crime?? I don't know about Canada but I sure hope that if something like this were to happen in the US that the person responsible would be charged with no less than someone who sent a hate letter to someone in the gay community or someone who burned a cross in someone else's yard simply because they did not like the color of their skin.
  • ze_hombre
    ze_hombre Posts: 377 Member
    Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    That escalated quickly...
  • jenifr818
    jenifr818 Posts: 805 Member
    Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    That escalated quickly...

    I know, right? I think the writer of the letter was an @$$, personally, but I really don't see how you can associate it with political ideology. I feel like Fox News just flashed on my screen
  • smiley245
    smiley245 Posts: 420 Member
    This letter is disgusting! If that was my child being attacked I would be pressing charges once they figure out who sent this letter. It makes me sad thinking that someone could be this nasty.

    Charged with what? They didn't actually threaten anyone.

    How about a hate crime?? I don't know about Canada but I sure hope that if something like this were to happen in the US that the person responsible would be charged with no less than someone who sent a hate letter to someone in the gay community or someone who burned a cross in someone else's yard simply because they did not like the color of their skin.

    http://www.drps.ca/internet_explorer/whatsnew/whatsnew_view.asp?ID=26406

    "Despite the hateful language used, the Crown Attorney’s office has advised that the content of the letter falls below the threshold for a hate crime. However, there are other Criminal Code issues that are being considered. "
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    I'm glad that this went viral and that this disgusting human is, no doubt, reading about what a disgusting pig the world thinks she/he is. At first I thought it was a hoax because I can't fathom how a parent could possibly write something so heinous.
  • My older brother is autistic, and this letter makes me sick. When we were younger, my brother loved nothing more than to spend hours in the back yard. It relaxed him, made him happy, and yes, he would squeal and scream and hum and even, on occasion, throw dishes and toys over the fence into the neighbor's yard. Everyone on our street was very understanding of the situation, even when he once ran away and was found in a neighbor's swimming pool.

    It disappoints me more than I can say that there are people out there like this disgusting woman, who have no sympathy for other people's situations and problems, but the overwhelming support for the family and condemnation of the mother - if you can even call her that after what she's said - gives me enormous hope for this world.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    I don't think she should be charged, but a public shaming would be just as sweet, if not sweeter.
  • Whiskybelly
    Whiskybelly Posts: 197 Member
    It scares the hell out of my normal children!!!!!!!!!

    The letter goes on to state:

    Crying babies, music and even barking dogs are normal sounds in a residential neighbourhood!!!!! He is NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He is a nuisance to everyone and will always be that way!!!!!! Who the hell is going to care for him????????? No employer will hire him, no normal girl is going to marry/love him and you are not going to live forever!!

    T]hey should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate it to science. What the hell else good is he to anyone!!!!

    You had a retarded kid, deal with it... properly!!!!! What right do you have to do this to hard working people!!!!!!!!!

    What the hell is wrong with some people? If anyone had ever said this about one of my music students they would have had the entire town chasing after them! It's just sickening how evil some people can be.
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    Rigger

    See, this baffles me. I saw this sort of idea expressed several times yesterday in various comment boards too, and I can't understand it at ALL. I'm a very "left leaning" Canadian, and an atheist, and when I saw this letter I was beyond horrified. I don't understand why people would think "left leaning" people are more likely to say things like this? The whole point of being "left leaning", not to take over the conversation, is to be inclusive of everyone and understanding of the needs of other people regardless of who they are. This letter is exactly the opposite of what left-wing people represent. Where did that idea even come from??

    Also, in terms of hate laws in Canada vs. the US, to give you an idea of what it's like in Canada, the members of the Westboro Baptist Church aren't even allowed in Canada because of their hateful beliefs and actions. That's the kind of hate laws we have in Canada. We don't tolerate that kind of nonsense lol.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    This letter is disgusting! If that was my child being attacked I would be pressing charges once they figure out who sent this letter. It makes me sad thinking that someone could be this nasty.

    Charged with what? They didn't actually threaten anyone.

    How about a hate crime?? I don't know about Canada but I sure hope that if something like this were to happen in the US that the person responsible would be charged with no less than someone who sent a hate letter to someone in the gay community or someone who burned a cross in someone else's yard simply because they did not like the color of their skin.

    I don't disagree that this is technically a hate crime, but sending one letter about one person is not likely to result in charges. They didn't threaten anyone. If they discover who wrote the letter, she will probably get a stern warning to leave that family alone, but, unless the publicity affects the way the police will respond, it won't go any further. If she continues to bother them, I am sure there will be repercussions, but I suspect a mental assessment will be the first thing they will do.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't understand why people would think "left leaning" people are more likely to say things like this?

    Yeah ... that's an odd take.

    I don't think politics has anything to do with it. I think a bad person is a bad person and it wouldn't surprise me if this particular bad person is left leaning OR right leaning. The letter was not really political (apart from the not contributing to society, but in context I'm not even sure the LR even meant it politically, it was just another hurtful thing to say).
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    I totally agree with you, Geekygirl!!!....well said!!
  • madworld1
    madworld1 Posts: 524
    I read that this morning too. Horrible.

    I wonder if it was a person without children in disguise as a "mother."

    I get that there are neighborhood noises that are annoying. The guy's mower at 730 in the morning drives me nuts. But, it's a fact of life. I'm not going to send him an evil letter.

    We need more compassion in this world.
  • Whiskybelly
    Whiskybelly Posts: 197 Member
    I think if this supposed "mother" knew how difficult life must be for the family in that household, including the autistic child, she'd be less inclined to spewing this kind of hateful crap.
  • navyrigger46
    navyrigger46 Posts: 1,301 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    Rigger

    See, this baffles me. I saw this sort of idea expressed several times yesterday in various comment boards too, and I can't understand it at ALL. I'm a very "left leaning" Canadian, and an atheist, and when I saw this letter I was beyond horrified. I don't understand why people would think "left leaning" people are more likely to say things like this? The whole point of being "left leaning", not to take over the conversation, is to be inclusive of everyone and understanding of the needs of other people regardless of who they are. This letter is exactly the opposite of what left-wing people represent. Where did that idea even come from??

    Also, in terms of hate laws in Canada vs. the US, to give you an idea of what it's like in Canada, the members of the Westboro Baptist Church aren't even allowed in Canada because of their hateful beliefs and actions. That's the kind of hate laws we have in Canada. We don't tolerate that kind of nonsense lol.

    It came from history, Hitler was a man of the left, Margaret Sanger was a woman of the left, she was all about euthanizing people who she thought were undesirable. She was a darling and hero of the progressive movement of the early 20th century, which is where Hitler got many of his ideas. How about George Bernard Shaw? He was an early progressive, he thought people should have to justify their existence and benefit to society or be "humanely killed." I can go on with hundreds of examples both historical and current, but I think we're off topic at this point. If you are a liberal, I mean a real liberal of the Jeffersonian bent I applaud you, but if you're a liberal of the current definition, I feel sorry for you.

    Rigger
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    My oldest son is autistic, so this really pisses me off. Hitler held some of the same views as this person, it seems to be pretty prevalent on the left, so I'm not surprised when something like this happens in a left leaning country like Canada, it wouldn't surprise me coming from many parts of the US either.

    Rigger

    See, this baffles me. I saw this sort of idea expressed several times yesterday in various comment boards too, and I can't understand it at ALL. I'm a very "left leaning" Canadian, and an atheist, and when I saw this letter I was beyond horrified. I don't understand why people would think "left leaning" people are more likely to say things like this? The whole point of being "left leaning", not to take over the conversation, is to be inclusive of everyone and understanding of the needs of other people regardless of who they are. This letter is exactly the opposite of what left-wing people represent. Where did that idea even come from??

    Also, in terms of hate laws in Canada vs. the US, to give you an idea of what it's like in Canada, the members of the Westboro Baptist Church aren't even allowed in Canada because of their hateful beliefs and actions. That's the kind of hate laws we have in Canada. We don't tolerate that kind of nonsense lol.

    It came from history, Hitler was a man of the left, Margaret Sanger was a woman of the left, she was all about euthanizing people who she thought were undesirable. She was a darling and hero of the progressive movement of the early 20th century, which is where Hitler got many of his ideas. How about George Bernard Shaw? He was an early progressive, he thought people should have to justify their existence and benefit to society or be "humanely killed." I can go on with hundreds of examples both historical and current, but I think we're off topic at this point. If you are a liberal, I mean a real liberal of the Jeffersonian bent I applaud you, but if you're a liberal of the current definition, I feel sorry for you.

    Rigger

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