Question for self professed "sugar addicts"
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Are people with gambling addictions making it up?
I've already posted this;
Gambling is another thing I personally can't compare.
Gambling = an outcome of possible winnings.
Eating too much food = outcome of turning into a whale.
Nothing good comes from the latter.0 -
It is in the biochemistry. Seek and you will find.http://www.treating-cancer-alternatively.com/Sugar.html
The natural sugar found in fresh organic foods is different than the chemically processed sugar used in food production.
The natural organic sugar found in fresh fruits, vegetables, as well as the sugar from raw sugar cane and sap from different trees can easily be digested by our immune system and is necessary.
This raw, unprocessed sugar is created in direct relationship to all the other vitamins, minerals, and supplements of that particular organic food product. The body uses this sugar entirely different than the chemically processed refined sugar used in packaged foods.
When sugar is extracted from a food and tested separately it does not have the same enzymatic reactions as when it is consumed as a whole raw organic product.
Our bodies need a wide variety of raw, unprocessed sugar from organic fruits and vegetables and sugar sources such as organic raw honey, sugar cane and other forms of sugar.
There is a major difference between organic raw sugar and chemically processed sugar used in manufacturing of packaged foods. Processed sugar causes nutritional deficiencies in our immune system.
Treating cancer alternatively gives our bodies the natural organic raw foods that build our immune systems thereby destroying cancer cells and healing our bodies of many debilitating diseases.
Chemically processed sugar
Chemically processed sugar causes irritation and weakening of the immune system, mucous membranes of the body and robs teeth, bones and blood of a great percentage of their minerals.
Inflammatory diseases of the breathing and digestive organs result from the use of white and brown chemically processed sugar. Diseases of the throat, nose, chest, and of the skin are frequently due to the use of white and brown sugar.
When the human body is overloaded with such sugar and sugar mixtures, both in solid and in liquid form, nutritional deficiencies causes the vitality of the body cells to be afflicted and the may cause swellings and mucous discharges.
Inflammatory diseases are intensified in direct proportion to the amount of sugar used.
Cancer and diabetes have been traced to the excessive use of sugar, as so has poliomyelitis, and inflammation of the grey matter of the spinal cord, which causes painful crippling of the body.
One of the biggest contributors to the cancer epidemic is the mass amounts of sugar being consumed regularly by the average individual.
For most people, this is in the form of white, refined sugar. The sugar industry might try to tell you that sugar is simply a harmless source of carbohydrates. This is not true!
What they don't tell you is that refined sugar:
•
disrupts your blood sugar,
•
signals your body to store (and hold on to) fat,
•
depletes your body of important minerals,
•
induces dramatic mood swings,
•
makes you tired and irritable, and
•
is very "addicting."
When you eat a large quantity of sugar, your pancreas is forced to pump out a large amount of insulin to utilize the sugar as fuel.
However, while consuming a small amount of carbohydrates is normal, and healthy, the large amount that many of us consume generates a huge insulin response that ends up signaling the body to store all incoming carbohydrates as fat. Now, while this does not directly cause cancer, the state of being overweight with high blood sugar can definitely set the stage for this deadly illness.
Sugar turns your body into a nice, suitable breeding ground for cancer by devastating your immune system.0 -
^ citation needed please.0
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I'm confused. How come hardly anyone has answered OP's question? I, too, am a little concerned as to how someone with a so-called addiction to sugar can eat fruit. Fructose and glucose bonded make sucrose (table sugar). Last I checked, fruit naturally has fructose AND glucose. So...... please someone explain the difference and do not revert to a "clean eating" argument?
Before anyone misinterprets what I'm saying, I'm not saying fruit is inherently bad. I'm just asking why, if someone is addicted to the actual ingredient (sugar), are they able to eat... well, sugar, but in fruit?
You are, in fact, completely unconcerned with this matter, and looking to stir up some **** on the internets (like the OP).
On these very boards you will see people say they cannot do sugar in moderation whatsoever and that they are an addict, yet when looking at their diary they eat all manners of sugars in moderation and admittedly are not going zero carb. See a contradiction there?0 -
I'm confused. How come hardly anyone has answered OP's question? I, too, am a little concerned as to how someone with a so-called addiction to sugar can eat fruit. Fructose and glucose bonded make sucrose (table sugar). Last I checked, fruit naturally has fructose AND glucose. So...... please someone explain the difference and do not revert to a "clean eating" argument?
Before anyone misinterprets what I'm saying, I'm not saying fruit is inherently bad. I'm just asking why, if someone is addicted to the actual ingredient (sugar), are they able to eat... well, sugar, but in fruit?
It must be a psychological thing? I know a guy that's an alcoholic and he could drink 24 beers in one night. If we were out to dinner he wouldn't touch the wine... so is he REALLY an alocoholic? He's capable from abstaining from the types of alcohol he doesn't like, so maybe in some way shape or form ALL addictions have a psychological element?
Yes, exactly. Heroin users are not automatically addicted to crystal meth. There is a huge psychological component to addiction. However, with proven addictive substances (drugs, alcohol), there is also a huge physical factor.
My argument is that if someone was truly addicted to sugar, the actual chemical compound, they would not be able to eat fruit and practice control. Just as with your friend, he stays away from the wine, but what happens when he has a glass? Does he stop at one glass or does he have 12 (or, instead, after the glass of wine, have 24 beers)?
Maybe taste is THAT big of a determining factor. So, it's not really the "sugar" that they're addicted to, but the taste. In the case of an alcoholic only by one type of liquor, would it be a combination of the taste AND the substance? I'm asking because I genuinely don't know, and am confounded by the whole "sugar addiction" argument in general.0 -
It is in the biochemistry. Seek and you will find.http://www.treating-cancer-alternatively.com/Sugar.html
The natural sugar found in fresh organic foods is different than the chemically processed sugar used in food production.
The natural organic sugar found in fresh fruits, vegetables, as well as the sugar from raw sugar cane and sap from different trees can easily be digested by our immune system and is necessary.
This raw, unprocessed sugar is created in direct relationship to all the other vitamins, minerals, and supplements of that particular organic food product. The body uses this sugar entirely different than the chemically processed refined sugar used in packaged foods.
When sugar is extracted from a food and tested separately it does not have the same enzymatic reactions as when it is consumed as a whole raw organic product.
Our bodies need a wide variety of raw, unprocessed sugar from organic fruits and vegetables and sugar sources such as organic raw honey, sugar cane and other forms of sugar.
There is a major difference between organic raw sugar and chemically processed sugar used in manufacturing of packaged foods. Processed sugar causes nutritional deficiencies in our immune system.
Treating cancer alternatively gives our bodies the natural organic raw foods that build our immune systems thereby destroying cancer cells and healing our bodies of many debilitating diseases.
Chemically processed sugar
Chemically processed sugar causes irritation and weakening of the immune system, mucous membranes of the body and robs teeth, bones and blood of a great percentage of their minerals.
Inflammatory diseases of the breathing and digestive organs result from the use of white and brown chemically processed sugar. Diseases of the throat, nose, chest, and of the skin are frequently due to the use of white and brown sugar.
When the human body is overloaded with such sugar and sugar mixtures, both in solid and in liquid form, nutritional deficiencies causes the vitality of the body cells to be afflicted and the may cause swellings and mucous discharges.
Inflammatory diseases are intensified in direct proportion to the amount of sugar used.
Cancer and diabetes have been traced to the excessive use of sugar, as so has poliomyelitis, and inflammation of the grey matter of the spinal cord, which causes painful crippling of the body.
One of the biggest contributors to the cancer epidemic is the mass amounts of sugar being consumed regularly by the average individual.
For most people, this is in the form of white, refined sugar. The sugar industry might try to tell you that sugar is simply a harmless source of carbohydrates. This is not true!
What they don't tell you is that refined sugar:
•
disrupts your blood sugar,
•
signals your body to store (and hold on to) fat,
•
depletes your body of important minerals,
•
induces dramatic mood swings,
•
makes you tired and irritable, and
•
is very "addicting."
When you eat a large quantity of sugar, your pancreas is forced to pump out a large amount of insulin to utilize the sugar as fuel.
However, while consuming a small amount of carbohydrates is normal, and healthy, the large amount that many of us consume generates a huge insulin response that ends up signaling the body to store all incoming carbohydrates as fat. Now, while this does not directly cause cancer, the state of being overweight with high blood sugar can definitely set the stage for this deadly illness.
Sugar turns your body into a nice, suitable breeding ground for cancer by devastating your immune system.
Is this sucrose model from a packet of table sugar or natural sucrose from an apple
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The bottom line here is, behavioral addictions are real. Any behavior that results in a sensation of pleasure causes changes in brain chemistry that can lead to addiction. Gambling, pornography, video games, internet use, checking your cell phone, even sex - all of these things can trigger compulsive behavior or addiction.
It's not a physiological addiction like nicotine, it is a behavioral addiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_addiction
If you don't believe that pleasurable stimuli can cause behavioral addiction, I don't know what to tell you other than to do some reading up on it.0 -
Are people with gambling addictions making it up?
I've already posted this;
Gambling is another thing I personally can't compare.
Gambling = an outcome of possible winnings.
Eating too much food = outcome of turning into a whale.
Nothing good comes from the latter.
Both of those behaviours have + and - possible outcomes.
Gambling: You might win, you might end up with no family and get a free pair of cement boots
Eating: Food is delicious and it feels good to eat food you love, you might end up a lardass.
There are benefits and risks to both of those behaviours. I don't think it's fair to compare only the positive side of gambling with only the negative side of overeating.0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".0 -
I've already posted this;
Gambling is another thing I personally can't compare.
Gambling = an outcome of possible winnings.
Eating too much food = outcome of turning into a whale.
Nothing good comes from the latter.
But you didn't answer the question.
Do you think that people with gambling addictions are making it up?0 -
Are people with gambling addictions making it up?
I've already posted this;
Gambling is another thing I personally can't compare.
Gambling = an outcome of possible winnings.
Eating too much food = outcome of turning into a whale.
Nothing good comes from the latter.
Both of those behaviours have + and - possible outcomes.
Gambling: You might win, you might end up with no family and get a free pair of cement boots
Eating: Food is delicious and it feels good to eat food you love, you might end up a lardass.
There are benefits and risks to both of those behaviours. I don't think it's fair to compare only the positive side of gambling with only the negative side of overeating.
I get that, but regardless - Food is delicious and it feels good to eat food you love, but there is nothing GOOD to come from it, as in.. you will get fat if you keep consuming.
Gambling: Win lots of money, Lose lots of money.
Win = Feel great
Lose = Feel sad
Food: Eat food and claim addiction
eat it = get fat
don't eat it = dont get fat0 -
I've already posted this;
Gambling is another thing I personally can't compare.
Gambling = an outcome of possible winnings.
Eating too much food = outcome of turning into a whale.
Nothing good comes from the latter.
But you didn't answer the question.
Do you think that people with gambling addictions are making it up?
It's not comparable to a food addiction, so its irrelevant?0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)0 -
On these very boards you will see people say they cannot do sugar in moderation whatsoever and that they are an addict, yet when looking at their diary they eat all manners of sugars in moderation and admittedly are not going zero carb. See a contradiction there?
I'd guess it's more of a definitional problem. They have trigger foods that presumably are high in sugar (if they say they have a sugar addiction). Then other foods that are not trigger foods for them, which may contain sugar (as many, many foods do).
There are some similarities to some alcoholics, in that types of alcohol are more likely to trigger binges, but it's not particularly worth delving into, when the answer isn't actually dependent on the chemical compositions.
If people need to avoid certain foods/drinks to avoid binging, they should do so. Doesn't really matter why a slice of cheesecake or a handful of Oreos isn't enough. Doesn't matter why someone will over-consume tequila and not white wine. Recognizing and adapting to the situation is the critical element.0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)
Exactly. It is not "irrelevant to anything". What you eat is irrelevant to anything other than you.0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)
Exactly. It is not "irrelevant to anything". What you eat is irrelevant to anything other than you.
If she states she has a medical issue, I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, she did not - so it is, infact, irrelevant to her.
AMIRITE? ofcourse i'm right0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)
Exactly. It is not "irrelevant to anything". What you eat is irrelevant to anything other than you.
What's irrelevant to this THREAD is arguments over semantics. It is easily inferred what he meant, that sugar content is irrelevant to weight loss barring medical conditions.0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)
Exactly. It is not "irrelevant to anything". What you eat is irrelevant to anything other than you.
If she states she has a medical issue, I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, she did not - so it is, infact, irrelevant to her.
AMIRITE? ofcourse i'm right
Yes, of course you are. We all know medical issues don't exist unless we tell ritchiebulk about them.
But then you didn't say sugar was irrelevant to her. AMIRITE? ofcourse i'm right0 -
Abs.
LMAO
Amirite or Amirite?
YES YES YES0 -
I'm not really a sugar addict BUT my sugar content is always very high because I eat a lot of fruit. I just don't know enough healthy meals yet to take them out. THey are fine eating plain and all ... veggies i eat plain too but i don't really know many recipes yet lol
Doesn't matter if your sugar content is high, its irrelevant to anything. Don't need to remove it from your diet if you like it.
Nonsense
Ok, tell me why that is non-sense, give it your best shot!
Sugar content matters for blood glucose levels. Blood glucose levels matter as much as any other blood levels. It's utter and complete nonsense to say sugar content is "irrelevant to anything".
Ok, sure if you have medical issues.
She didn't state medical issues.
I eat 150g of sugar a day, maybe more, it's irrelevant whether it be 10g of sugar or 150g of sugar, (providing no medical issues)
Exactly. It is not "irrelevant to anything". What you eat is irrelevant to anything other than you.
If she states she has a medical issue, I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, she did not - so it is, infact, irrelevant to her.
AMIRITE? ofcourse i'm right
Yes, of course you are. We all know medical issues don't exist unless we tell ritchiebulk about them.
But then you didn't say sugar was irrelevant to her. AMIRITE? ofcourse i'm right
I quoted her, and told her, it is irrelevant - so yes? Yes i did.
If you had kept your nose out, we wouldn't be having this conversation - it's because of threads like this people start to worry about their MEASLY 60g sugar content when they don't have to.0
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