Sugar addiction....

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  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
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    what kind of "addictive " qualities of you referring to?


    There's a chemical that companies put in processed sugar to keep us hooked. Science.

    What these jabs are really pointing out is that there is no physiological addiction going on. Obviously if fruit has sugar and twinkies have sugar but you only jones about twinkies, it's not a physiological addiction to sugar going on here.

    It's not about the chemical being consumed, it's about the pleasure being derived from the eating.

    Find me a piece of fruit that's as good to eat as a bowl of ice cream and I guarantee you'll see the same kind of behavioral addictions to it that you see to ice cream.

    It may be the same sugar in them but the ice cream tastes ****ing awesome whereas the fruit is just "good" at best.
    And OP, if you really have an "addiction", then you should be checking yourself into rehab or getting professional psychological help.

    I often wonder if the people who keep throwing that word around have ever known people who suffer from an actual addiction, because if they did, they'd realize just how serious an addiction (physical and mental) is and would be seeking help for their issues....not trying to go do some fad detox diet whatever. Seriously sad how we belittle actual issues by using the phrase or word to describe little and simple problems...like learning to moderate what we eat, in this case.

    Behavioral addictions are real. They are now in the DSM-V, including binge eating. It doesn't really help matters to say that one suffering isn't quite the same as another.
    For myself personally, the "everything in moderation" approach doesn't work with some things. At this point I really do need to completely cut them out. I don't have the best willpower, admittedly. I can will myself to work out, but I can't will myself to keep one bowl of granola from turning into 4. It happens. If I allow myself something in moderation, I tend to keep having it "in moderation" until the box is empty. I realize this. It's not the deprivation that leads to the binge, it's the mentality that "just one won't hurt". It really IS comparable to a drug addiction in that way, because I find myself craving that feeling, that mental/emotional boost that the sugar gives me, I think.

    Yup, classic behavioral addiction. You know it's bad for you, but you can't help yourself. For me, my attitude was not that "just one won't hurt", it was that once I had permitted myself to eat a spoonful or two of ice cream, what the hell, in for a penny in for a pound. If you're gonna sin, baby SIN! :) If you're gonna pay for indulgence, might as well indulge! :)

    There are just a lot of people here who don't believe that you can be behaviorally addicted to something, or that in order to be addicted you have to be resorting to prostitution. There are plenty of internet, pornography, gambling, and other behavioral addicts who know the truth.
  • scottaworley
    scottaworley Posts: 871 Member
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    Yes, I read the article.

    I know it's behavioral. But eating sugar stimulates those feel good receptors in the brain. And SOME people can become "addicted" to it that brain response.

    Just because it's not happening to you, doesn't mean it's not happening for others.

    I have to regulate my carbohydrate intake very carefully. If I eat too many carbs, or too many of the WRONG carbs, my body reacts.

    Do you have a medical diagnosis?
  • AprilMae1975
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    Guess I should have titled this post "Need ideas for cutting down on my love of sweet treats"
    A sense of humor is a must around here. lol

    Agreed :) I knew it would be bad at some point after i posted it lol.
  • AprilMae1975
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    Guess I should have titled this post "Need ideas for cutting down on my love of sweet treats"

    as long as you are under your calorie goal, who cares? I personally do not eat a lot of sweet treats but that is just me...

    Let's just say I would eat only sweets if I could get away with it. I don't think 1400 calories of sweets per day would be good lol. My love for these things is that strong!!
  • carofenice1
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    I have type 2 diabetes and just reducing it didnt seem to help. I have cut out all added sugar, processed foods and cut right back on carbs. I had to cut it out completely for quite a while and allow my body to get used to a new diet. It does work but you have really bite the bullet and de-tox from it . Good luck
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
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    "When analyzing the addiction to food for example, a published study in 2009 from The Scripps Research Institute have shown for the first time that the same molecular mechanisms that drive people into drug addiction are behind the compulsion to overeat, pushing people into obesity. In this study, scientists focused on a particular receptor in the brain known to play an important role in vulnerability to drug addiction—the dopamine D2 receptor. The D2 receptor responds to dopamine, a neurotransmitter that is released in the brain by pleasurable experiences like food or sex or drugs like cocaine.[13]"

    - Johnson, Paul M; Kenny, Paul J (2010). "Dopamine D2 receptors in addiction-like reward dysfunction and compulsive eating in obese rats". Nature Neuroscience 13 (5): 635–41. doi:10.1038/nn.2519. PMC 2947358. PMID 20348917. Lay summary – ScienceDaily (March 29, 2010).
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    Convenience
  • MailiLim
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    Eat dates. Middle-eastern people eat these as a dessert. They're extremely sweet, but much better for you than candy or soda and definitely help wean you off the refined sugars that can cause addiction. It's a good transition food if you're looking to cut down on sweets altogether, which does promotes feelings of overall well-being.
  • JoyeII
    JoyeII Posts: 240 Member
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    I do. A few actually :) Prediabetes, insulin resistance, and PCOS.

    My doctor is open minded about allowing me to "treat" myself by regulating my diet. He said he'd give me 6 months and if there was no improvement from doing it "my way," then he would like me to try "his way." His way is with pills.

    I'm 3 months in, down 33 lbs, fasting glucose is now normal and A1C showed a marked improvement in my most recent labwork.

    He's been impressed thus far with my progress.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    Convenience

    personal preference....I would rather eat some strawberries, chocolate protein powder, and peanut butter blended together..tastes better than a candy bar IMO...
  • AprilMae1975
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    I love chocolate covered strawberries, covers both good and bad sugars!!
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    Convenience

    Was just thinking that lol... I never walked into a gas station and found strawberries but I always walked out with a couple Reese's peanut butter cups and a King Size Snickers.....
  • AprilMae1975
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    Convenience

    personal preference....I would rather eat some strawberries, chocolate protein powder, and peanut butter blended together..tastes better than a candy bar IMO...

    Now that sounds yummy!!!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    Guess I should have titled this post "Need ideas for cutting down on my love of sweet treats"

    as long as you are under your calorie goal, who cares? I personally do not eat a lot of sweet treats but that is just me...

    Let's just say I would eat only sweets if I could get away with it. I don't think 1400 calories of sweets per day would be good lol. My love for these things is that strong!!

    from an overall health perspective it would probably not be that great..but if 1400 was a 500 cal deficit for you then yes, you would lose weight..
  • scottaworley
    scottaworley Posts: 871 Member
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    I do. A few actually :) Prediabetes, insulin resistance, and PCOS.

    My doctor is open minded about allowing me to "treat" myself by regulating my diet. He said he'd give me 6 months and if there was no improvement from doing it "my way," then he would like me to try "his way." His way is with pills.

    I'm 3 months in, down 33 lbs, fasting glucose is now normal and A1C showed a marked improvement in my most recent labwork.

    He's been impressed thus far with my progress.
    This is the only reason anyone should restrict sugars.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    A lot of people are being flippant about this post, but sugar CAN be addictive. There are several studies to back that up. I have personally added to that pool of research when I did a study with rats using cocaine or cookie dough to study reward processing. Sugar can be as rewarding as cocaine if you eat it often enough, and in large quantities.

    I recommend taking the sugar out of your house, away from your work space, anywhere you usually see it. I find that turning on catchy music and singing/dancing around for a little while will distract me long enough to forget about how much I feel like bingeing on cookies. The less you eat, the less you'll crave. Good luck!
    Which studies? Are any on humans or all on rats?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    sugar is sugar...doesn't matter if it comes from a candy bar or a strawberry...

    And yet for many people candy bars are far more tempting to eat than strawberries. Why?

    Convenience

    Was just thinking that lol... I never walked into a gas station and found strawberries but I always walked out with a couple Reese's peanut butter cups and a King Size Snickers.....

    LOL I do not see too many gas stations with a produce section ....
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Eat dates. Middle-eastern people eat these as a dessert. They're extremely sweet, but much better for you than candy or soda and definitely help wean you off the refined sugars that can cause addiction. It's a good transition food if you're looking to cut down on sweets altogether, which does promotes feelings of overall well-being.

    1 date has 16g of sugar...
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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