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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.
    He wrote The Hobbit as a bedtime story for his very young children.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.

    what? DEFRIENDED! ...oh wait. nevermind. :noway:

    LOTR has long had more than a cult following. it was big in the 60's and 70's and was the inspiration for D&D (geek reference if ever there was one). i wrote a history paper in high school circa 1983/1984 on how and why the LOTR books were an allegory to WWII.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    So the Author said it wasn't about that.... yet you think it is.... wat

    A lot of people who grew up with it try to ascribe a hidden deeper meaning to it. What it was is fifty shades of grey, for kids, without the dirtiness.

    It is no Lord of the Rings.

    I was 22 when the first book was published and didn't read them until two years ago.

    I won't even address the other comment. It's ridiculous on its face.

    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    its a "young adult" book series that was written so that kids could "grow up" with the characters each year. That is why the book get more "adult" as you get to the end of the series. Word usage and type of words used get more adult as the series goes on. Which in its aspect alone is unique and neat. But it was in fact written for a younger crowd when it started and "matured" with the characters as it went along.

    You know something else Rowling said? She said she DID NOT have an audience in mind when she wrote it and she DID NOT intend it to be for children specifically.

    So if we're taking the author at face value because that's what she said, then you're wrong. :-)
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.
    He wrote The Hobbit as a bedtime story for his very young children.

    I know... I read LOTR when I was 12. That's probably about the age of the readers that read the first Harry Potter books.

    What I'm saying is that both series, LOTR and Harry Potter, have become social icons. One might have an opinion about which is better, but both will continue to be relevant in the decades to come.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    I'm saying Harry Potter is not "50 Shades of Grey for kids."
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    At least HP got kids reading.

    The Beatles- some I can't stand, some I love.

    I can't stand the Rolling Stones. Barf.
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    That's what I like to hear. But I got a word of warning for all you would-be warriors. When you join my command, you take on debt. A debt you owe me personally. Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y'all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis. Or you will die tryin'.

    ^^This.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.
    He wrote The Hobbit as a bedtime story for his very young children.

    I know... I read LOTR when I was 12. That's probably about the age of the readers that read the first Harry Potter books.

    What I'm saying is that both series, LOTR and Harry Potter, have become social icons. One might have an opinion about which is better, but both will continue to be relevant in the decades to come.
    Sorry. I was agreeing with you and just adding a little to your point.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.
    He wrote The Hobbit as a bedtime story for his very young children.

    but not the Lord of the Rings....

    he said "“I find that many children become interested, even engrossed, in /The Lord of the Rings/, from about 10 onwards. I think it rather a pity, really. It was not written for them. But then I am a very ‘unvoracious’ reader, and since I can seldom bring myself to read a work twice I think of the many things that I read – too soon! Nothing, not even a (possible) deeper appreciation, for me replaces the bloom on a book, the freshness of the unread. Still what we read and when goes, like the people we meet, by ‘fate.’”
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.

    what? DEFRIENDED! ...oh wait. nevermind. :noway:

    LOTR has long had more than a cult following. it was big in the 60's and 70's and was the inspiration for D&D (geek reference if ever there was one). i wrote a history paper in high school circa 1983/1984 on how and why the LOTR books were an allegory to WWII.

    Well I grew up in a different generation. I read LOTR (in the early 90's) because I was bored, and grew up with the Hobbit, and decided to read something else by the same author. No one told me about it or suggested it to me. My friends didn't read it. My teachers never talked about it. I had no knowledge of it whatsoever prior to picking the book up.

    Of course, I loved it! But I did not hear mentioned again until the 2000's when Peter Jackson began filming. That is why I say no one really cared about it. But that is just my experience. Others might see it differently.

    *PS - I'm still not sure why we aren't friends anymore. You should FR me so you can de-friend me properly for when I share such controversial opinions. :tongue:
  • NinjadURbacon
    NinjadURbacon Posts: 395 Member
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    wait are you trying to say Potter is equal or better than Lord of the Rings? i really, really hope not.

    Potter fans really want it to be equated with the better works of fiction. thats why they try to shoehorn theories into it.

    they should just accept it for what it is...its fantastic young adult, kids, juvenile...whatever fiction and thats it. nothing wrong with that.

    I'm pretty sure people were saying the same thing about LOTR back in the 1930's. LOTR classified as young adult fantasy fiction. Personally, I don't think the two are comparable. But no one really gave a flying crap about LOTR until Peter Jackson came along. Both have carved out their place in the history of literature and pop culture.
    He wrote The Hobbit as a bedtime story for his very young children.

    not exactly. it was written as a childrens book that he did not want to be published. He had only read it to friends and his children. He was quoted saying that "scholars do not write childrens books" that was why he did want it published.

    his influence to write the book came from a sentence that popped into his head that he wrote on a blank piece of paper, "in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit"
  • mamacita721
    mamacita721 Posts: 194 Member
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    Back to the original topic....

    I see nothing on your list OP that inspires hatred personally. My list would be more like

    Taylor Swift
    One Direction fans
    Pickles
    It's a Wonderful Life
    New York Yankees
    Pickles
    Nickleback
    and PICKLES
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    Back to the original topic....

    I see nothing on your list OP that inspires hatred personally. My list would be more like

    Taylor Swift
    One Direction fans
    Pickles
    It's a Wonderful Life
    New York Yankees
    Pickles
    Nickleback
    and PICKLES

    Do you mean Pickles as in the food? I will eat all your pickles!
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    Back to the original topic....

    I see nothing on your list OP that inspires hatred personally. My list would be more like

    ...
    Pickles
    ....
    Pickles
    ....
    and PICKLES

    :noway:
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    :noway:
  • MeganMcK11
    MeganMcK11 Posts: 117 Member
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    Hate the Shades of Grey series.

    And yes I read them all. I enjoy reading and wanted to see what the hype was about. They were poorly written books. I've seen better pornos
  • NinjadURbacon
    NinjadURbacon Posts: 395 Member
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    So the Author said it wasn't about that.... yet you think it is.... wat

    A lot of people who grew up with it try to ascribe a hidden deeper meaning to it. What it was is fifty shades of grey, for kids, without the dirtiness.

    It is no Lord of the Rings.

    I was 22 when the first book was published and didn't read them until two years ago.

    I won't even address the other comment. It's ridiculous on its face.

    Let me quote J.k. Rowlings for you:

    "When the books were originally released, the fans were able to grow up along with Harry," she said. "Although the story is fantasy, it is easily digestible by the reader. It isn't a heavy, dark fantasy. It is also the classic tale of good versus evil — everyone is rooting for Harry to win. It is a story that all teens can relate to."
  • mommabenefield
    mommabenefield Posts: 1,329 Member
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  • Factory_Reset
    Factory_Reset Posts: 1,651 Member
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    This thread is full of people that offer nothing to society....



    The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Star Wars and LOTR should have never been mentioned in a negative light, if god existed, SHE would strike you down....

    there, fixed it for ya

    :flowerforyou:
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    So the Author said it wasn't about that.... yet you think it is.... wat

    A lot of people who grew up with it try to ascribe a hidden deeper meaning to it. What it was is fifty shades of grey, for kids, without the dirtiness.

    It is no Lord of the Rings.

    I was 22 when the first book was published and didn't read them until two years ago.

    I won't even address the other comment. It's ridiculous on its face.

    Let me quote J.k. Rowlings for you:

    "When the books were originally released, the fans were able to grow up along with Harry," she said. "Although the story is fantasy, it is easily digestible by the reader. It isn't a heavy, dark fantasy. It is also the classic tale of good versus evil — everyone is rooting for Harry to win. It is a story that all teens can relate to."

    BOOM goes the dynamite.

    so lets stop with all the comparisons to WWII. its obvious it wasnt her intention.


    do you guys think she will ever visit that universe again and if so when? i 100% think we'll see a new book in the next decade.