We trashed the sodas, chips, cookies
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The point is one of scarcity. If you have 20 bags of potato chips and you choose to throw them out, then that is 20 bags of potato chips that could have gone to someone that are now wasted. Even if you choose to donate $100 to a food back, that 20 bags of potato chips are still wasted, and $100 plus 20 bags of potato chips is still better than just $100. Food banks empty out all the time.
DO NOT WASTE FOOD
And yes, I know restaurants waste huge amounts of food, but that's another bone to pick . . . derp (so to speak) . . .
You realize, don't you, that that the DO NOT WASTE FOOD is quite likely why so many Americans are overweight? Plus, what would happen if people bought fewer potato chips? They would stop making so many.
No, American's are overweight because they consume too many calories and don't exercise enough. Don't buy the food if you're not going to eat it, save calories and money.
Sure, don't buy it in the first place, but that's not what I was replying to when I wrote what I wrote. When I read previous poster's mandate 'DON'T WASTE FOOD' I could just imagine him/her standing over their kids at the dinner table, hollering. I think one of the reasons I have don't have trouble with over eating on a grander scale is my parents never insisted we clean our plates. For exactly that reason. Food is never 'wasted' anyway. It goes right back into the molecules from whence it came and can be made into new food all over again.
Ah, well my apologies
In the grand scheme of things you are right, nothing is truly wasted. I simply feel rather strongly about this because I do know people who have grown up without enough food on the table so I've learnt to understand how precious food is to some people, even if it is just a bag of chips. 0 -
It was symbolic - the throwing away of the junk. A rite of passage, if you like.
I like to imagine them wearing ceremonial robes and burning incense as their cola chugged away into the drains. Then a procession down the path... the crisps and cookies held aloft a moment before being cast into the bins, like lumps of inedible dried-out fat. A murmered Latin chant raising to a crescendo...0 -
This is very true, but on the flip side, one or two people's worth of chips and cookies aren't going to feed the world either, so them throwing away the food, while admittedly maybe not the most selfless choice, is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things. (Pretty sure it wasn't 100 bags of potato chips is what I'm saying here). I personally wouldn't have thrown them away, (but I admittedly probably would have given them to my neighbor rather than a food bank) but the OP did, and he can't change that now. Repeatedly chastising him won't bring the food back.
It probably won't bring him back to MFP either, which is a shame for someone who seemed pretty excited and looking for support. It's kind of sad.
The only reason I personally commented on the choice not to donate to a food bank is because OP stated that it was considered and rejected because it was too junky. I encouraged OP, not chastised, to not let that stop him/her in the future (for the reasons I gave in the post you quoted.)
Sorry, that probably looked like I was singling you out as chastising him, which I didn't mean to do. I was more going to the point of it being a relatively small amount of food that wouldn't have made an overall difference in world hunger. I apologize. It was more a general statement for those that ARE chastising him, which you have to admit, are many on this thread.0 -
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They are really concerned about clean eating. Still think you should have thrown that stuff away?
Again with this? Seriously, do you think the Red Cross feeds malnourished children chips, cookies and soda?
Not only have I used food banks, but I have also worked with them as well. When they ask for donations, they request HEALTHY nutritious foods. You know - soup, cans of beans, cans of vegetables, milk, fresh fruit and vegetables. They don't want your expired stuff and/or empty calories.0 -
The point is one of scarcity. If you have 20 bags of potato chips and you choose to throw them out, then that is 20 bags of potato chips that could have gone to someone that are now wasted. Even if you choose to donate $100 to a food back, that 20 bags of potato chips are still wasted, and $100 plus 20 bags of potato chips is still better than just $100. Food banks empty out all the time.
DO NOT WASTE FOOD
And yes, I know restaurants waste huge amounts of food, but that's another bone to pick . . . derp (so to speak) . . .
You realize, don't you, that that the DO NOT WASTE FOOD is quite likely why so many Americans are overweight? Plus, what would happen if people bought fewer potato chips? They would stop making so many.
No, American's are overweight because they consume too many calories and don't exercise enough. Don't buy the food if you're not going to eat it, save calories and money.
Sure, don't buy it in the first place, but that's not what I was replying to when I wrote what I wrote. When I read previous poster's mandate 'DON'T WASTE FOOD' I could just imagine him/her standing over their kids at the dinner table, hollering. I think one of the reasons I have don't have trouble with over eating on a grander scale is my parents never insisted we clean our plates. For exactly that reason. Food is never 'wasted' anyway. It goes right back into the molecules from whence it came and can be made into new food all over again.
Whatever you imagine me doing IRL, however active your imagination may be, is not really relevant.
Again, wasting and overeating are not the same. Plates don't have to be filled to overflowing, or even slightly too much food. It is called "portion control" and it really isn't that complicated, your leaps of logic notwithstanding.0 -
You people must never have been anywhere near a food bank. They do not want cookies, chips, and soda. They do not take those items.
Where I live they do. Sure they prefer things like breakfast cereals, tinned foods, and other non-perishables, but they don't turn any donations away.0 -
It is called "portion control" and it really isn't that complicated, your leaps of logic notwithstanding.
Not that complicated, but also not that easy. If it were, MFP wouldn't exist.
Nor would Weight Watchers, Nutrisystem, Jenny Craig, Slimfast, QuickTrim, etc.0 -
Sorry, that probably looked like I was singling you out as chastising him, which I didn't mean to do. I was more going to the point of it being a relatively small amount of food that wouldn't have made an overall difference in world hunger. I apologize. It was more a general statement for those that ARE chastising him, which you have to admit, are many on this thread.
Yes, there was some chastising. I agree with that, and I agree that OP didn't deserve that.
I do have experience with food banks and various types of shelters. If one for one reason won't take it, another will. One bag of chips could be one shelter's treat night. (Let's face it, most people aren't donating their bags of chips. They are donating their canned beans.) In most areas, there are lots of churches/temples/mosques/places of worship; if you don't feel like going to a food bank or shelter to donate, just drop your stuff off at a local religious organization. They will know a family in need that will take it.0 -
People can argue all day about the virtues and pitfalls of moderation (and have been), but the fact is it works for some and doesn't work for others.
What bothers me about this thread isn't anyone's stance or philosophy but the way people jumped down the OP's throat when she came here to share how excited she was about her steps to get healthy. Even if you don't agree it is the best way (for you), do you have to attack people new to this site who are coming here to find support? There has to be a better way to share your experience and help people besides berating, and in a lot of cases, ridiculing them. At least I know I wouldn't respond to that very well.0 -
Totally missing the point: if you don't like something, you don't like it.
OP threw out food he obviously does like. That's why he bought it.
People's preferences and/or the things they choose to put in their body can change, too. Sounds like his did.No one is saying buy food you don't like. What we're saying is that it's OK to eat food you do like, even if other people tell you it's unhealthy.
He threw out the food because he made a decision to address a specific problem in a certain way. Does that choice threaten your choices in any way? I don't understand your vociferous desire to somehow prove to him that he didn't need to do it. Of course he didn't need to. No one had a gun to his head. Presumably he made the decision to, because he felt it would be his best path towards meeting his goals.
That should be respected and commended.
A "nutritionist" scaring an overweight person into throwing out his cookies because he'll binge on them otherwise means that his preferences and tastes changed?
Come on.
But some folks here ARE "scaring" people into "oh if you get deprived you will binge and fail". Meanwhile you interpreted the nutritionist as scaring him. Were you there?0 -
i packed-up all foods (non-perishable) and took it to our food bank. all the fresh foods, we ate them until they were gone so as not to waste money. but we won't be buying more!Please tell me that when you say 'trashed' you didn't actually throw perfectly good food into the trash, but that you donated it to your local food bank?
Perfectly good food? Did you not read the post? It was chips sodas and other crap. I have had to (in the past) avail myself of food banks. Believe me, we don't need that crap in them. Thanks anyway.
well, i have in fact was eating in Popeyes chicken restaurant a few years ago, and a homeless person came up to me and asked if he could have any food.. i was done eating, and all i had was the bones. so i told him.. he then snatched up the bones and chewed on them. that kinda freaked me out, the fact that he must have been so hungry that he ate up some bones. so i personally think if a person is hungry, they wont care if its potato chips or cookies, if i were starving, i'd even eat pop tarts. seriously.
And you are saying this like it's a good thing. Never mind, I give up.
No, i"m saying that people who are starving who would eat garbage (literally), would probably take your bag of cheetos and enjoy it rather than starve.
I was not aware that food banks reject perfectly usable food like snacks, i do understand they dont want food past the expiration date, but good food that has not gone bad?0 -
I don't "get" the notion of throwing food away, but then I never had that much junk food in my house to begin with. At some point I must have changed my shopping habits, and the eating habits followed suit... Not that it helped my weight (much) but I eat much better now :bigsmile:0
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I don't "get" the notion of throwing food away, but then I never had that much junk food in my house to begin with. At some point I must have changed my shopping habits, and the eating habits followed suit... Not that it helped my weight (much) but I eat much better now :bigsmile:
I get the reasons the original poster did it. And I agree with the person that stated it was probably more ritualistic for them. I just don't understand the excessive shaming over it. I mean, who here is exactly perfect or has done things they later looked back on and said 'oops'. I bet at least half the posters here have thrown batteries in the garbage. That's not just bad, it's also illegal.
I guess it goes to the old saying, 'people in glass houses...'0 -
Totally missing the point: if you don't like something, you don't like it.
OP threw out food he obviously does like. That's why he bought it.
No one is saying buy food you don't like. What we're saying is that it's OK to eat food you do like, even if other people tell you it's unhealthy.
It's not that I don't like it, its that I don't feel the need to keep it in my house. Like I love plain salty potato chips. But I don't stand in the aisle gazing longingly at the rows of chips, it doesn't even cross my mind.
Just saying. There are other ways to look at it beside 'oh she likes chips and doesn't have them in her pantry, what an idiot!' If I really, really want chips, I'll just go buy one packet. Overall I'm happier snacking on fresh stuff, I feel better after.
I'm not condoning the OP's posts. But I also don't think that 'junk food' needs to be a part of my shopping list. People can be happy not buying it, even if they like the taste. This is not a sign of an unhealthy relationship with food, despite the commonly held opinion on here.A "nutritionist" scaring an overweight person into throwing out his cookies because he'll binge on them otherwise means that his preferences and tastes changed?
Come on.
now this i totally agree with. there's a reason the diet industry is so profitable -- it doesn't work.0 -
I think what the OP is doing is great way to kick-start a lifestyle change, especially if you're addicted to junk food.
Having it in the house just increases the chance you're going to eat it, especially if you're tired or stressed. Most people don't have iron will power. Best just not to bring it in the house.
I'm sure the OP will eventually be able to add 'treats' back into their diets.0 -
I hate to break to the folks here, but food banks really don't want to get a bunch of junk food donations. They are trying to supply meals and nutrition not empty/cheap calories. The food banks will accept it for sure, because they don't want to come of as discouraging generosity. I've even see food banks go to the press and request healthier food from the public.
Of course they want healthier items. That's a given. But they don't just accept them, they distribute them. I'm sure there are some areas where that's not true. Some areas may have enough donors or not enough need to have to take the snack type items. That's not everywhere.
(I'll stop the food bank posts now though. Can't say the same thing over and over again. I do agree the OP doesn't deserve to be judged over it and don't want OP to feel bad over the topic.)0 -
You were tired and hungry? Sounds like you weren't eating enough calories last time.When i lost weight before I stayed away from the chips soda and chocolate like people told me to. Sure I lost weight but i was tired hungry and still craved all those sweets. In time i gained it all back and then some. This time I decided to try and see if i could keep it and 2 months after I started on here my cravings went away. I still eat my ice cream chocolate chips etc. But insted of 3 chocolate bars a day I have 3 peices. In stead of 3 sodas a day i have 1 a week. Not only can i eat what like and still lose weight I don't feel deprived so i'm less likely to cheat.0 -
If it was perfectly good food we would not have thrown it out. I didn't send it to the food bank.
We don't send ciqarettes to the food bank.
If we choose to donate we want to make sure we are keeping our principals up., now that we are becoming educated on food. I want to make sure that the food bank is getting the same good quality that we are eating. not products that we are putting in our garden waste. The only good thing is that it is biodegradable.
I know I sound excited but I am so stoked with this new energy |i have got from eating well. and the new lifestyle we have got going for ourselves.
What you did was great. You can have junk food once in a while and fit it into your diet, and NO, you are not obligated to keep it in the house.0 -
I think what the OP is doing is great way to kick-start a lifestyle change, especially if you're addicted to junk food.
Having it in the house just increases the chance you're going to eat it, especially if you're tired or stressed. Most people don't have iron will power. Best just not to bring it in the house.
I'm sure the OP will eventually be able to add 'treats' back into their diets.
Well you leave it in the house because you *will* eat it,. If you let yourself have a little every day, you won't freak out next time someone puts a bowl of it in front of you. You won't get anxiety about going to a friend's party where there will be snacks. You won't give in and buy a bag one day, feel guilty, and - knowing you won't buy a bag again - eat the whole thing in one sitting.0 -
I think what the OP is doing is great way to kick-start a lifestyle change, especially if you're addicted to junk food.
Having it in the house just increases the chance you're going to eat it, especially if you're tired or stressed. Most people don't have iron will power. Best just not to bring it in the house.
I'm sure the OP will eventually be able to add 'treats' back into their diets.
Well you leave it in the house because you *will* eat it,. If you let yourself have a little every day, you won't freak out next time someone puts a bowl of it in front of you. You won't get anxiety about going to a friend's party where there will be snacks. You won't give in and buy a bag one day, feel guilty, and - knowing you won't buy a bag again - eat the whole thing in one sitting.
That is one approach, however, there are various ways to handle being prepared for a big bowl of treats being put in front of you so that you dont gorge on it. The answer is not just the way you suggested - there are more ways. A crippled person uses a crutch for a while and then one day they are rehabbed and can throw the crutch away and live life normally.
Thats the secret - finding the way to handling the one day when a big bowl of something tempting is gonna be put in front of you. Many ways to handleing it proactively so that it doesn't take you by surpise as bad. 0 -
We are all doing this lifestyle change for our own reasons, some people may feel tossing all the "bad" food in the garbage and starting over new is a good start. I try not to eat sugary empty calories because that is exactly what I was addicted to and also what ultimately game me type 2 diabetes. I quit smoking February 2012, I don’t like being around smokers now, it’s not because I am depriving myself of it, it’s because I enjoy fresh air after 20 years of inhaling poison. My home has no cookies, no ice cream, no pizza, and no other food that a year ago was a staple in my bad diet. I surround myself to feel nourished and set myself up to succeed. Have I had a cookie or a pizza or an ice cream in 9 months? You bet. Do I have them daily? No way.
To the OP:
If purging all this food from your home is going to set you up to succeed then all the power to you.
To all the people putting the OP down:
Just try and remember everyone is different, just because you have willpower of steel and can set boundaries doesn't mean everyone else can.0 -
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It isn't about control. I think the OP's poster of comparing processed foods and sugars to cigarettes is an accurate assessment.
They have done brain imaging with the MRI and have shown a difference between people who are obese and those who are not.
The obese person will react to an image of food, parts of their brain will be stimulated. So you can see their body chemistry has changed. They have done studies on animals that confirm this.
Think of putting out celery and carrots on the coffee table, are these as likely to be consumed at the same rate of lets say a bowl of chocolates?
I would not leave cigarettes laying all around a home if a person or member of the family is quitting the use of them.
I believe common sense applies, it is better to remove food that is not healthy or creates problems and change to new ones. The idea of moderation or they can lose weight eating what they want for many people is not possible. I think for people like the OP it is path to defeat. They are taking the right step and making the right choices that work for them.
If they want to reinforce the idea that the food they are giving up is not good by trashing it , so be it.0 -
There are so many different reasons people are heavy. Some aren't aware that the food they are eating is so calorie dense, and I expect (but don't know) this applies to many who come to a place like MFP for the first time. Some people are on medications that make them chronically hungry. Some are chronically sleep deprived and eat their way through the day to boost their energy. Some are emotional eaters. Some are compulsive overeaters, which is a disorder as dangerous and insidious as anorexia. Some fall into more than one of these categories, and I am sure there are more,.
Without knowing what circumstance brought the OP to the decision to lose weight, I'm not sure we can tell him that all he needs is will power. It's not that simple for everyone.
Never mind that a steady diet of the foods he tossed out will make him more hungry when his blood sugar crashes after eating all that sugar, and foods like chips and cheetos has been engineered to not make us full, even after downing thousands of calories worth.
Although we're all here for the same reason, we didn't all get here the same way, and there is more than one path out.0 -
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Many of us keep saying it comes down to lack of self control. The debate is its not but the explanation given is exactly that, lack of self control. Then people say if it was easy to practice self control then this site wouldn't exist. However, I think the difference is before most of us didn't care about self control. We just ate whatever, whenever and however much we wanted. Then we got big and decided enough was enough. Not caring about having self control and not being able to practice it are 2 totally different things.
I think that's probably something the OP needs to figure out on his own though. It's sort of like when someone is dating everyone that their friend's hate. They can tell them over and over but until that person has had enough and makes the decision for themselves, it's just going to fall on deaf ears. So many people here have said "I thought I had to cut everything out too, but it caused me to fail. Only then did I realize it was okay to have it in moderation." That could well be the path that the OP takes as well, but it's something he has to figure out by himself and make that decision based on his own successes and failures, and not those of others.
It's one thing to give friendly advice and explain what happened in your own case, so others can reference it when making their own decisions, but that is only a small part of what's going on here. The majority were basically calling the OP an idiot for not following it their way, telling him he'll be sorry for not listening, etc. And maybe that's true, but why not wait and see?
In this case, he and his friend have lost 12 and 14 lbs so far, so it seems to be working for them.
If they fail in the future, everyone can get their jollies saying, "I told you so" but in the meantime, why not just congratulate them on their success so far, wish them luck, and hope they don't suffer those obstacles moving forward?0 -
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I don't keep it in the house. And I don't get anxiety about going to a friend's party.I think what the OP is doing is great way to kick-start a lifestyle change, especially if you're addicted to junk food.
Having it in the house just increases the chance you're going to eat it, especially if you're tired or stressed. Most people don't have iron will power. Best just not to bring it in the house.
I'm sure the OP will eventually be able to add 'treats' back into their diets.
Well you leave it in the house because you *will* eat it,. If you let yourself have a little every day, you won't freak out next time someone puts a bowl of it in front of you. You won't get anxiety about going to a friend's party where there will be snacks. You won't give in and buy a bag one day, feel guilty, and - knowing you won't buy a bag again - eat the whole thing in one sitting.
I just don't eat most of it. Ever. And for me the first step was getting it out of the house.
I'm not "deprived". I dont want it. The thought of doritos, oreos, twinkies etc is NOT appealing any more.
For some of us, calorie counting is the way to sustained weight loss. For some of us, going on a low CRAP lifestyle is. I'm in the latter category. You're apparently in the former. Both are fine. As long as they work for us in the long term.
Most folks here are PROS at losing weight. As we know, keeping it off is the real battle. Again: it's about calories in/calories out BUT we each need to find an approach to eating that works for us.0 -
And how does SHE know not eating crap is? Has she tried that before?It isn't about control. I think the OP's poster of comparing processed foods and sugars to cigarettes is an accurate assessment.
They have done brain imaging with the MRI and have shown a difference between people who are obese and those who are not.
The obese person will react to an image of food, parts of their brain will be stimulated. So you can see their body chemistry has changed. They have done studies on animals that confirm this.
Think of putting out celery and carrots on the coffee table, are these as likely to be consumed at the same rate of lets say a bowl of chocolates?
I would not leave cigarettes laying all around a home if a person or member of the family is quitting the use of them.
I believe common sense applies, it is better to remove food that is not healthy or creates problems and change to new ones. The idea of moderation or they can lose weight eating what they want for many people is not possible. I think for people like the OP it is path to defeat. They are taking the right step and making the right choices that work for them.
If they want to reinforce the idea that the food they are giving up is not good by trashing it , so be it.
Honestly minnie, you and your studies. You still have not answered the question from the other day. Other than citing studies what have you accomplished health wise so far.
You think many of the fit people hear weren't obese? I was obese. How does the OP know moderation is the path to defeat, he hasn't even tried it.
Why must everyone be the same in their approach to food?0 -
A study came out this year regarding weight loss and keeping it off - the gist of it was that willpower is not a crutch that can be relied on; the best results came from actively removing temptation from the environment. No, I'm not taking the time to find the thread here to be heckled and thrashed about, but I read the study, felt a truth from it and perhaps a bit of relief that I wasn't a weak fool that my willpower was so faulty. There are people who can be successful by relying on willpower but these people are not among the majority.0
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