Why are so many people against juicing?
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Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really juice fruit?
Zuchinni in a juicer is terrible tasting, by the way.0 -
My friend has lost 8lbs this month juicing. She looks amazing and says she hasn't been hungry. I'm waiting for her new juicer to arrive then I'm having her old one and will give it a try, or at least incorporate it.
Apparently juiced avocados are not particularly appetising, tho!
Oh.. and in answer to your original question - people are 'against' anything that doesn't validate their own lifestyle choices (it's all about THEM you know...) or reinforce their prejudices.
Or pre'juice'dices.0 -
Paleolithic men did not have juicers
Had I been drinking juice when I read this it would have come out my nose.....Lol
Yeah me too. It was a jab at a lifestyle which I take seriously, but, I can't lie, it was funny as heck. And true. :laugh:0 -
Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
so...people who drink whole foods juice would never come to MFP because they are so thin? But you drink it...and you are here...so are you not thin? Does the juice actually not work? HOW AM I THIN WITHOUT JUICE????
Sorry I just cannot make sense of this comment.0 -
Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
You sound hungry.
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Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
You sound hungry.
God Christian Bale is so hot. mmmm taco0 -
Steroid use is illegal and can have bad side effects.
So drinking the juice of a fruit or vegetable is like taking cortisone?
Ahh, different kind of juicing.
Well, juicing as an addition to a current diet is fine, in my opinion. However, replacing your diet completely with juicing, especially in the long term, is simply not a good idea. You lack fiber, fats, and protein, not to mention are usually eating at an extreme calorie deficit.
^ So much of this.
I'll add that when you combine OPs asking if they should "juice fast" for 30 days with references to videos such as "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" (which is a typical agenda pushing docudrama), you have a recipe for jokes and silly gifs, not serious conversation.0 -
Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
so...people who drink whole foods juice would never come to MFP because they are so thin? But you drink it...and you are here...so are you not thin? Does the juice actually not work? HOW AM I THIN WITHOUT JUICE????
Sorry I just cannot make sense of this comment.
Holy crap...the if a is b, and b is c, then a is c argument. Sorry, i cannot make sense out of YOUR comment either since it's not what I said.
I will admit though that most people would think I'm thin. And I like to eat food. And I like to drink juice. :bigsmile:
Eta: p.s. they don't drink juice to stay slim. They don't even think about staying slim, counting calories, or anything else. They drink juice because they like it. As should anyone else...if they like it. If they don't like it, then don't drink it.0 -
Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
Ha, ha.
OR...you can go into health food stores or those types of restaurants (like vegan organic scary places), and see all the thin people there drinking them that have never even been to this website because they've been thin all their lives and would be completely befuddled by the comments people make here...before they paid for their juice and drank it. Why? Because it tastes dam good!
Off to whole foods to get my juice drink.
You sound hungry.
Thanks, but I only eat my tacos with margaritas. :drinker:0 -
INteresting.0
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This thread has a lot of potential.0
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I don't buy into the detox thing. But I do buy into a great way to pack alot of nutrients into a small package.
I do buy the detox thing. Doing a juice fast for 24 hours won't hurt you at all. And it is a good way to get bad crap out of your system. Literally!0 -
I don't buy into the detox thing. But I do buy into a great way to pack alot of nutrients into a small package.
I do buy the detox thing. Doing a juice fast for 24 hours won't hurt you at all. And it is a good way to get bad crap out of your system. Literally!
Please explain how and provide ANY sort of link to back up that claim? One shred of scientific evidence please.0 -
I don't buy into the detox thing. But I do buy into a great way to pack alot of nutrients into a small package.
I do buy the detox thing. Doing a juice fast for 24 hours won't hurt you at all. And it is a good way to get bad crap out of your system. Literally!
Please explain how and provide ANY sort of link to back up that claim? One shred of scientific evidence please.
Waste is removed via urine and excrement. Juicing makes you poop.
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About six weeks ago I watched a documentary on TV about Joe Cross: "Fat, sick and nearly dead" http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/about/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/
It was truly an extraordinary story - I recommend everyone to check it out before passing judgement.
I would have considered juicing but there's no way that I could afford the juicer.
I think as a temporary measure to get one's weight down to an ideal body weight, and then switch to a healthy calorie-controlled solid-food diet for maintenance - I think it looks fine as a strategy and it appears to work.
kind regards,
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About six weeks ago I watched a documentary on TV about Joe Cross: "Fat, sick and nearly dead" http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/about/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/
It was truly an extraordinary story - I recommend everyone to check it out before passing judgement.
I would have considered juicing but there's no way that I could afford the juicer.
I think as a temporary measure to get one's weight down to an ideal body weight, and then switch to a healthy calorie-controlled solid-food diet for maintenance - I think it looks fine as a strategy and it appears to work.
kind regards,
Ben
^ There it is! I knew someone was going to bring up that laugh fest of a docu-melodrama.0 -
About six weeks ago I watched a documentary on TV about Joe Cross: "Fat, sick and nearly dead" http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/about/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/
It was truly an extraordinary story - I recommend everyone to check it out before passing judgement.
I would have considered juicing but there's no way that I could afford the juicer.
I think as a temporary measure to get one's weight down to an ideal body weight, and then switch to a healthy calorie-controlled solid-food diet for maintenance - I think it looks fine as a strategy and it appears to work.
kind regards,
Ben
^ There it is! I knew someone was going to bring up that laugh fest of a docu-melodrama.
Yup! The dude made a documentary about juicing, and then tried to sell you a juicer. This should be everyone's first clue that it isn't on the level.0 -
About six weeks ago I watched a documentary on TV about Joe Cross: "Fat, sick and nearly dead" http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/about/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/
It was truly an extraordinary story - I recommend everyone to check it out before passing judgement.
I would have considered juicing but there's no way that I could afford the juicer.
I think as a temporary measure to get one's weight down to an ideal body weight, and then switch to a healthy calorie-controlled solid-food diet for maintenance - I think it looks fine as a strategy and it appears to work.
kind regards,
Ben
^ There it is! I knew someone was going to bring up that laugh fest of a docu-melodrama.
Yup! The dude made a documentary about juicing, and then tried to sell you a juicer. This should be everyone's first clue that it isn't on the level.
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So, I just showed up at this site, a couple of days ago.... it might be a bit early for me to wade into something, but here goes. I started exhibiting some physical symptoms that freaked me out, and I tended to 'assume' were associated with being overweight, and unhealthy. I'd just seen Fat Sick and Nearly Dead recently, and I went out and bought a juicer and a whopping amount of fruit and veggies. After a few days, I had it down to a science... making juices I liked, and did straight juice for about 10 days. Then, I switched it up, to juices and salads. After losing 30 lbs ( in about 4 months ) I went and saw a dietician, to work on a more sustainable ( for the immediate future, anyhow... ) diet plan... trying to stick with as much raw veggies as possible, and mostly the basic vegetarian stuff to round it out.
Ya, I lost muscle... but I feel alot better than I did 4 months ago... and my plan is to try to dump the last 10 or more pounds I need to get rid of, and get back to the gym, and hopefully build a little bit of muscle back up. I don't think there's any one-size-fits-all diet plan... and what works for me, won't necessarily work for you.
If Joe Cross is to be believed... he was a successful businessman before he started the documentary... and unless he perpetrated a fairly complex ruse.... he wasn't hurting for cash, and didn't need whatever extra income his Fat Sick and Nearly Dead venture is bringing in. Phil, the truck driver, lost about 200 lbs drinking juice.... and all his tests showed he was getting much healthier. Joe says that Phil has gained back something like 80 lbs of that, and tends to struggle trying to 'maintain.'
I've briefly perused Joe Cross' website... and it does appear he flogs products, and services.... That's life these days... he now has a 'product....' and people want to buy it.
As for the OP, and the title of this thread.... If the title had been... 'Let's talk about juicing ?' would the responses have been any different?
I'm working on settling into a healthy lifestyle that I can maintain. Juicing helped get me here, and is still part of my daily routine. IMHO, whatever works for you, that's great. For you. Whatever works for me, that's great. For me.
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Oh ya... my dietician was the one who showed me this site. :laugh:0 -
Because its a gimmick. If you look at the most successful people on this site (or anywhere really) - the ones setting PRs, the ones who have taken the weight off and kept it off, the ones who look amazing - they don't do crazy things like put all their food in a blender before eating it. They don't insist their bodies are unclean and full of mysterious toxins that must be purged. They track their food, exercise, and they don't make it so damn complicated.
I don't judge success by how thin or bulked up a person is. In real life I meet with trainers and incredibly fit people every week (I work part time at a fitness store) and they ALL say their health is related to how they fuel their body.
My body isn't full of mysterious toxins, but our chemical laden food supply sure is.
I love juicing.0 -
If I could afford juicing, and could find a way to make the vegetable juices taste anywhere near palatable, I'd juice as a veggie supplement. But I can't see it as a sustainable way to eat. I don't think anyone is really against it as another food choice, but people are against it being made out to be more than it is as or being promoted as a viable way to get a full day's needs in.0
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I LOVE juicing! I don't do it to lose weight and I add it to my regular diet. I don't replace meals with it or anything.
Just try to get more nutrients and veggie servings in cause it would be really hard for me to eat 4 bunches of kale, 2 carrots, 2 celery ribs, a red pepper, parsley, garlic, and a cucumer in one day! That would make me want to puke puke! I eat whole fruits and veggies also, just not 8 servings a day, that's why I juice. I could not fit all that in a blender either (would probably make up 10 cups blended) with out gaging!
Oh yeah and did I mention since I started juicing I have a better well being, energy, no migraines anymore, and better skin! I will do it for those reasons alone!0 -
Here is my take: most diets work (unless it's pure scam). But, it's not sustainable in the long run, which causes people to gain back the weight they lost. I have little doubt that juicing can work, because it somewhat limits the amount of calories you ingest. Even those overpriced MLM stuff work, but the question is what happens when you stop paying for them?
If you think you can juice for the rest of your life and not feel like you miss solid food, then more power to you. But if you plan to juice just for a while and eventually return to eating normal food, then you might gain all the weight back because you have never learned to eat normal food in moderation.
I think most people at MFP just want to be helpful and save you the agony of yo-yo dieting.0 -
Well, I have to disagree with the majority on here. I juiced 100% for the first time for two weeks. For 2 1/2 years, especially right hand joints (my knuckles) held inflammation, never went away. Rheumatologist told me the only way I could get rid of the fluid is to have surgery on my hands. I didn't want it and he told me it was not worth it and to live with it. About the 7th day juicing, I even ask my 75 yo mother to look at my hand. I did not tell her what to look at. She replied, "Your joint swelling is gone!" Exactly! Then, about the 10th day, while I was rolling from side to side in my bed, I had to do it a couple of times. Why? The sciatic pain that I had constant for over 2 years from ruptured disk,did not go away when my disk healed naturally in about 9 months, was gone.
Also, I have been consistent with exercising and eating cleaner since January. I had not lost any lbs via the scales since March. The juice fasting jumped start my weight loss again and helped me to achieve being at 199 lbs, which I have never been in my adult life and I am almost 53, then, I will take from you being crazy. I enjoy juicing so much that I juice 2x a day and eat a sensible meal. I don't feel sluggish or deprived because I am not one to go feeling deprived. When I am tired of it, I will stop!
I'm glad you are feeling better! I am wondering, however, if while you were doing the just fast, you also eliminated sodium? Because that would greatly decrease water weight/swelling as well.0 -
For most people it is not sustainable.0
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I juice some to supplement my veg intake and because it tastes good...I do not juice to supplement an actual meal nor do I believe in "cleansing" with juices or "detoxing" or whatever. I lost my 40 lbs and have been maintaining for 5 months eating food..actual meals and snacks and what not, the juice is just a supplement just like my fish oil or vitamin D pill, etc...it's not a dietary meal replacement.0
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I own a juicer and rarely use it. When I do use it, it is primarily to get my fruit intake. I love vegetables, but fruits kind of gross me out. I probably only eat 2-3 servings of fruit a week. They have a sloppy texture that I can’t get passed. I love the taste of berries, but if I eat them in their natural form, I feel like I am eating little sweet slugs or something. Peaches and plums are like eyeballs to me. So, I put fruits in a juicer and I can get my fruit without having to put a gross texture in my mouth.
However, as I said, I rarely juice. It actually constipates me because so much pulp and fiber are removed in the juicing process. I hear people all the time saying how juicing makes them poo or even causes diarrhea, but it consistently impacts me in the opposite way. Maybe my body is just weird?
Also, it is a complete hassle to me. My juicer is a $150 piece of bulky equipment that is too large to leave on my limited countertop, so I have to break it down and keep it in a cupboard. It’s just a pain to get it out, assemble it, juice, throw out the pulp, break down the machine, wash the pieces, dry it, put it back into the cupboard for storage... all for a serving of fruit. It’s easier to grab a crispy apple or just skip my fruit intake and have a vegetable instead.
So, that's my personal answer to why I am "against" juicing. (I'm not really against it. I'm just constipated and burdened by it. LOL)0 -
I need the fiber that juicing throws away.
For me it's pointless.
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