Calories are NOT equal

I eat healthy every day and never go near my calorie count--and since they over estimate the workout calories I always make sure I have a 100 to 200 deficit daily as well. I am doing fine and going at a slow ads steady pace. BUT my trainer has taken all processed foods from my diet and I do not add salt to my food anymore WITH THE EXCEPT OF EGGS--they are wayyyyy to gross without alittle salt. And this is not a diet for me at this stage--this is a lifestyle change and I am all the better for it!!

The horrid, disgusting thing on the right is the product of fast food and ice cream.

Tell your children! Let me be a warning.

That towel makes me unhappy for some odd reason.



On subject: Truth 1: I hit my macros most nights (it balances by Sunday) and I get my micronutrients daily (usually hit my weekly value by Thursday)

Truth 2: I fit Wendy's in twice a week and cookies, ice cream, or brownies nightly.

Why does Truth 2 magically render Truth 1 void?

^This. Not the bit about the towel, I am happy for it's existence. But it sounds like you've found your personal perfect balance. When you find your personal balance you are on track to long term success.

If your diet feels like work in any way, it's probably not going to hold long term. I don't wish failure on anyone, but the fact of the matter is that if maintaining a 100% 'clean' diet is hard work, you are more likely to fail.

For those whose ideal balance is genuinely 100% 'clean' and 0% convenient, that's great. But understand that not everyone can dedicate to a diet like that, and that doesn't mean that they aren't getting any health benefits from the simple act of cutting weight and learning portion control.

And what in the name of all that's holy is a macro, please? Sounds like something Hubs might put on my computer for playing MMORPGs.

Genes play a big part of it. Macros for one person may be ok but the same diet would cause high cholesterol in another.

Wut.

this is true. high cholesterol is genetic. some people are predisposed for high cholesterol. and the have to watch their intake

The horrid, disgusting thing on the right is the product of fast food and ice cream.

Tell your children! Let me be a warning.

That towel makes me unhappy for some odd reason.



On subject: Truth 1: I hit my macros most nights (it balances by Sunday) and I get my micronutrients daily (usually hit my weekly value by Thursday)

Truth 2: I fit Wendy's in twice a week and cookies, ice cream, or brownies nightly.

Why does Truth 2 magically render Truth 1 void?

^This. Not the bit about the towel, I am happy for it's existence. But it sounds like you've found your personal perfect balance. When you find your personal balance you are on track to long term success.

If your diet feels like work in any way, it's probably not going to hold long term. I don't wish failure on anyone, but the fact of the matter is that if maintaining a 100% 'clean' diet is hard work, you are more likely to fail.

For those whose ideal balance is genuinely 100% 'clean' and 0% convenient, that's great. But understand that not everyone can dedicate to a diet like that, and that doesn't mean that they aren't getting any health benefits from the simple act of cutting weight and learning portion control.

Heathen.


I hate threads like this. I was gonna have an egg white and asparagus omelet but now I want a bacon cheeseburger. Clean eaters are always sabotaging me.

Read Fast Food Nation. It's just unbelievable to me the venom with which people will defend processed food. The makers of fast foods and processed foods love you; their advertising dollars have been well spent.

Stop. That book made my brain bleed. I'd read wheat belly four more time before I read Fast Food Nation again.

So I guess you mean it was worse than terrible? :laugh:

strong troll thread op

I hate threads like this. I was gonna have an egg white and asparagus omelet but now I want a bacon cheeseburger. Clean eaters are always sabotaging me.

I know! Now I want a burger too. But I already pre-logged my clean Subway lunch, so I can't have one... or wait, is Subway clean or dirty?

Yes that's completely true. Like if I ate oatmeal which was 200 calories, it would keep me full for longer and my metabolism would be higher, which means I'd burn fat faster. But if i ate a sugary cereal, it would store it as fat and wouldn't keep me full. And fizzy drinks with 0 calories, they're so bad for you and it has really bad effects on you.

How would your metabolism be higher?

Carbonated water is bad for you?

Sugary cereal would be stored as fat if you are at a caloric deficit?

Yes that's completely true. Like if I ate oatmeal which was 200 calories, it would keep me full for longer and my metabolism would be higher, which means I'd burn fat faster. But if i ate a sugary cereal, it would store it as fat and wouldn't keep me full. And fizzy drinks with 0 calories, they're so bad for you and it has really bad effects on you.

holy Bro Science Batman

Read Fast Food Nation. It's just unbelievable to me the venom with which people will defend processed food. The makers of fast foods and processed foods love you; their advertising dollars have been well spent.

Stop. That book made my brain bleed. I'd read wheat belly four more time before I read Fast Food Nation again.

So I guess you mean it was worse than terrible? :laugh:

I had to get out of bed (It's only 8am here, don't judge me.) for find a gif just to show how fast food nation made me feel

Read Fast Food Nation. It's just unbelievable to me the venom with which people will defend processed food. The makers of fast foods and processed foods love you; their advertising dollars have been well spent.

I don't eat fast foods...however. what is processed?

- my milk
- my tofu
- my frozen veggies
- my seitan
- my yogurt
- my peanut butter
- my cheese
- my pre made egg white salad
- my bread
- my pasta
- my ice cream
- my chocolate
- my pre-made salad
- my dried cranberries
- my sun dried tomatoes?

They all are.

ETA: I don't eat fast food because I do not really like the options I have, not because I have anything against it...so your logic is flawed.

Cant we all just get along! what works for you may not work for them..if they come to the realization that they want to clean up let them.
but if its working for them know leave them be and dont make them fell bad. with holy opions that may make a person second guess their diecision to get health and insult them by calling them garbage eaters...thats not positive at all... cause it a starting point for them and its not how you start the race but how you finish. i try to eat health but every once in a while you need a lil flavor...other wise you not living. just my 2 cents on the subject if you want a refund to bad!

And what in the name of all that's holy is a macro, please? Sounds like something Hubs might put on my computer for playing MMORPGs.

There are three (well, really four if you count alcohol) macros (macronutrient)

Protein, Fats and Carbs.

I clearly will have a lot to learn regarding this new venture. I try to balance out serving sizes when I'm eating. Generally, my own nutritional rules are:

The more fruits and veggies, the merrier; unless it's starchy veggies like peas which I suspect of smuggling calories to my hips.

Any serving of meat more than 3 ounces at a time is wasted.

Cheese is tasty, but only 2 ounces is one serving. Two ounces is frikkin small. That's too bad, but there it is.

Cheetos and donuts will do you in if you let them.

Just about everything (including restaurant food) is genetically modified. Deliciously genetically modified. Expect to mutate eventually.

Moderation. You can still have a sweet now and then. Just don't om nom nom yourself into double digit sized jeans.

That red solo cup holds sixteen ounces. It looks like one serving, but it is lying. It's really two. Might as well pour Tab in it and risk the cancer from the fake sugar, than the more possible heart attack from the sugars which your body will store as fat.

Genes play a big part of it. Macros for one person may be ok but the same diet would cause high cholesterol in another.

Wut.

this is true. high cholesterol is genetic. some people are predisposed for high cholesterol. and the have to watch their intake

Watch their intake of... what, exactly?

about 70% of the cholesterol we have is made in our bodies. the excess is reabsorbed. people with high cholesterol do a poor job with the reabsorption. adding too much external cholesterol (from eggs, shrimp, etc) just add to the problem.