Calories are NOT equal

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    You have great humor - lol

    I want to see Jonnythan's "study after study" references. Can't ask for references and then not offer any.

    Plus if pictures of Statham and Craig aren't sufficient then I doubt another thesis will be compelling

    Google 'Carb Timing'. 2,360,000 hits. I'm sure they're all wrong and your right though (Now THATS snide ;) (but not malicious)


    You really do not get how this works. Let me repeat - you make the claims, it's up to you to back them up, and no, telling someone to google it and wade through the dross does not cut it.
  • 4homer
    4homer Posts: 457 Member
    You have great humor - lol

    I want to see Jonnythan's "study after study" references. Can't ask for references and then not offer any.

    Plus if pictures of Statham and Craig aren't sufficient then I doubt another thesis will be compelling

    Google 'Carb Timing'. 2,360,000 hits. I'm sure they're all wrong and your right though (Now THATS snide ;) (but not malicious)
    my spidey sense is tingling....troll!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    We have been here all along....and please cite sources (as you made the claim, it's up to you by the way...that's the way it works...surely you recall that from your youth)....thanks darling!



    And lol at the snide youth reference.

    You should just add "PS: I'm probably older than you" to all of your comments to nip that kinda thing in the bud.

    In this case, there is no probably about it =)
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    You have great humor - lol

    I want to see Jonnythan's "study after study" references. Can't ask for references and then not offer any.

    Plus if pictures of Statham and Craig aren't sufficient then I doubt another thesis will be compelling

    Google 'Carb Timing'. 2,360,000 hits. I'm sure they're all wrong and your right though (Now THATS snide ;) (but not malicious)

    Well your first problem is searching Google for peer-reviewed science. Let me help you:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    http://scholar.google.com/
    http://www.thelancet.com/
    http://www.nejm.org/
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/journal.aspx

    Good luck!

    PS: Your second mistake is seeing a hot guy with big muscles and thinking that counts as science.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78

    Well your first problem is searching Google for peer-reviewed science. Let me help you:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    http://scholar.google.com/
    http://www.thelancet.com/
    http://www.nejm.org/
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/journal.aspx

    Good luck!

    PS: Your second mistake is seeing a hot guy with big muscles and thinking that counts as science.

    Ahem still no specific references
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    Well your first problem is searching Google for peer-reviewed science. Let me help you:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    http://scholar.google.com/
    http://www.thelancet.com/
    http://www.nejm.org/
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/journal.aspx

    Good luck!

    PS: Your second mistake is seeing a hot guy with big muscles and thinking that counts as science.

    Ahem still no specific references

    Ahem...not their job.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    Fine then not mine either
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Fine then not mine either

    Actually when you make a claim it is kinda your job to back it up.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    Well your first problem is searching Google for peer-reviewed science. Let me help you:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
    http://scholar.google.com/
    http://www.thelancet.com/
    http://www.nejm.org/
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/journal.aspx

    Good luck!

    PS: Your second mistake is seeing a hot guy with big muscles and thinking that counts as science.

    Ahem still no specific references

    References for what, exactly? You want me to provide scientific peer-reviewed references proving that your claim has no evidence?

    Please. You want to make the claim that something affects health/weight gain/whatever, YOU provide the evidence for it.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Fine then not mine either

    Actually, and for the third time, yes it is. Otherwise we just assume you have absolutely nothing to support your assertion.

    I also find it odd that a guy who things that people who lift weights do not looked 'toned' is using Jason Statham for credentials of nutrition.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Fine then not mine either

    Actually when you make a claim it is kinda your job to back it up.
    And when they can't back it up they give the runaround
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    It often feels like some folks are speaking at length about their 80% while others are speaking at length about their 20%.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    It often feels like some folks are speaking at length about their 80% while others are speaking at length about their 20%.

    I think you have that right!
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    It often feels like some folks are speaking at length about their 80% while others are speaking at length about their 20%.

    Whereas you talk about your who-knows-what percentage since your diary is closed.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Fine then not mine either

    Actually when you make a claim it is kinda your job to back it up.
    And when they can't back it up they give the runaround

    And attempt to make condescending comments about the youths.


    Now...get off my lawn...
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    If those of us who have the wherewithall to provide evidence unlike you who yet again, have provided nothing!

    Some people really do just like to make pronouncements without any qualifying information which usually makes me skeptical

    Don't challenge if you can't prove it.. like I 'have'... again!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21527892
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517132057.htm

    Now go do some homework... for once and stop shooting at the people who do theirs already. Note these are links to the actual references as opposed to the first ten journal names I could think of
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    If those of us who have the wherewithall to provide evidence unlike you who yet again, have provided nothing!

    Some people really do just like to make pronouncements without any qualifying information which usually makes me skeptical

    Don't challenge if you can't prove it.. like I 'have'... again!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21527892
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517132057.htm

    Now go do some homework... for once and stop shooting at the people who do theirs already

    A link to a cross-sectional study looking at correlations between sleep timing and BMI, and a link to a mainstream press article talking about a mouse study?

    That's your evidence? And you present it with a snarky comment about homework?

    Hehe.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    Says the dude who didn't provide ANY :wink:
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,280 Member
    Proof? Give a person the same number of calories but one eats all the healthy/clean foods while the other eats the junk. Whose body looks better?

    not factual.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpbS00RNZhY
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    If those of us who have the wherewithall to provide evidence unlike you who yet again, have provided nothing!

    Some people really do just like to make pronouncements without any qualifying information which usually makes me skeptical

    Don't challenge if you can't prove it.. like I 'have'... again!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21527892
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517132057.htm

    Now go do some homework... for once and stop shooting at the people who do theirs already. Note these are links to the actual references as opposed to the first ten journal names I could think of
    I always eat late at night, why am I not obese yet. Am I special, a genetic outlier?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Says the dude who didn't provide ANY :wink:

    You don't seem to know how science works.

    Anyway, just saw a commercial for a new French Fry Burger from Burger King. Have to go get one tomorrow. How many "good" calories and "bad" calories are in it?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Says the dude who didn't provide ANY :wink:

    Ironic post is...well, I think you know the rest.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78

    You don't seem to know how science works.

    Oh please qualify that, pleeeaasse lol
  • TemikaThompson
    TemikaThompson Posts: 222 Member
    [/quote]
    What do I think? I think people should mind their own business and just worry about what they put in their own mouth and stop trying to dictate what everybody else should eat.
    [/quote]

    Could not have said it better. That's why some ppl block their diarys because they are afraid that others will judge them. One of my mfp's had her diary blocked for this very reason. I noticed that she was so fit and burned 600-1200 cals a day so I wondered what types of foods she ate. When she gave me her code, I was shocked to see that it was all healthy. What it did for me was give me hope knowing that I can still eat the foods that I love with a goal of getting as healthy as I can and still lose weight and be fit even if I have to work harder at it.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If those of us who have the wherewithall to provide evidence unlike you who yet again, have provided nothing!

    Some people really do just like to make pronouncements without any qualifying information which usually makes me skeptical

    Don't challenge if you can't prove it.. like I 'have'... again!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21527892
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517132057.htm

    Now go do some homework... for once and stop shooting at the people who do theirs already

    A link to a cross-sectional study looking at correlations between sleep timing and BMI, and a link to a mainstream press article talking about a mouse study?

    That's your evidence? And you present it with a snarky comment about homework?

    Hehe.

    Like this one?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475137

    :wink:
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    You don't seem to know how science works.

    Oh please qualify that, pleeeaasse lol

    Well you don't get to just assert that anything you want is true and then dare everyone to prove you wrong, and call it science. If you want to establish that something is true, you need evidence.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    Says the dude who didn't provide ANY :wink:

    Ironic post is...well, I think you know the rest.

    I think you're struggling with irony or just not actually reading the posts... or the links... or much of anything apparently
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If those of us who have the wherewithall to provide evidence unlike you who yet again, have provided nothing!

    Some people really do just like to make pronouncements without any qualifying information which usually makes me skeptical

    Don't challenge if you can't prove it.. like I 'have'... again!

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21527892
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517132057.htm

    Now go do some homework... for once and stop shooting at the people who do theirs already. Note these are links to the actual references as opposed to the first ten journal names I could think of
    I always eat late at night, why am I not obese yet. Am I special, a genetic outlier?

    oooo - can I join the special club please?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Says the dude who didn't provide ANY :wink:

    Ironic post is...well, I think you know the rest.

    I think you're struggling with irony or just not actually reading the posts... or the links... or much of anything apparently

    Nope, not struggling at all, but thanks for your concern. :flowerforyou:
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78

    You don't seem to know how science works.

    Oh please qualify that, pleeeaasse lol

    Well you don't get to just assert that anything you want is true and then dare everyone to prove you wrong, and call it science. If you want to establish that something is true, you need evidence.

    Yet that's precisely what you've done all the way through without providing evidence. You question mine and you've still provided nothing and you think I don't get how science works

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