"Metabolic Damage"

no such thing as metabolic damage. even l. norton has back tracked on some of the things he said. there is metabolic adaptation the same way there is cardiovascular adaptation, and muscular adaptation.

People just need to take the decision and process of fat loss more seriously. There are many monumental decisions that we make in life - such as marriage, children and buying a home - which ought require extensive consideration. I believe fat loss to be up there with those. Unfortunately, this is a goal that most take too casually and end up making things far more difficult than need be with some rather undesirable consequences.

Within 24 hours, leptin serum concentration levels decrease upon restricting calories. This is how quickly and attune the body is at monitoring and responding to changes in energy balance. The longer one restricts, the more alterations occur and the further from baseline the values become. Of course, maintaining a severe deficit during this restrictive state will accelerate this decline at a faster rate.

When people reference a slowing down of the metabolism, a more accurate description is the body is becoming less proficient at using energy for the sake of conservation. In other words, your adjusted TDEE lessens to save energy as a result of chronic restriction. Thus, for example, your RMR demands less energy and you burn less calories from exercise. Your body doesn't consider what you're doing as a diet - it views it as the beginning of a famine and will try to protect itself. It will do so by two principle methods: reducing energy expenditure and returning to a certain 'set weight" during refeeds following rapid weight loss.

If one researches scholarly studies on VLCD that assessed changes in RMR/TDEE, LBM, as well as metabolic hormones such as leptin and ghrelin (and they're respective receptors), you'll notice significant alterations from baseline. These adaptations are not only responsible for obesity relapse in previously obese persons and recovering anorexics, but also why future fat loss interventions become more difficult and unsuccessful. Although there are few long-term studies on the subject, the lingering effects of these adaptations can persist for years.

Bump Need to reread!!

People just need to take the decision and process of fat loss more seriously. There are many monumental decisions that we make in life - such as marriage, children and buying a home - which ought require extensive consideration. I believe fat loss to be up there with those. Unfortunately, this is a goal that most take too casually and end up making things far more difficult than need be with some rather undesirable consequences.

Within 24 hours, leptin serum concentration levels decrease upon restricting calories. This is how quickly and attune the body is at monitoring and responding to changes in energy balance. The longer one restricts, the more alterations occur and the further from baseline the values become. Of course, maintaining a severe deficit during this restrictive state will accelerate this decline at a faster rate.

When people reference a slowing down of the metabolism, a more accurate description is the body is becoming less proficient at using energy for the sake of conservation. In other words, your adjusted TDEE lessens to save energy as a result of chronic restriction. Thus, for example, your RMR demands less energy and you burn less calories from exercise. Your body doesn't consider what you're doing as a diet - it views it as the beginning of a famine and will try to protect itself. It will do so by two principle methods: reducing energy expenditure and returning to a certain 'set weight" during refeeds following rapid weight loss.

If one researches scholarly studies on VLCD that assessed changes in RMR/TDEE, LBM, as well as metabolic hormones such as leptin and ghrelin (and they're respective receptors), you'll notice significant alterations from baseline. These adaptations are not only responsible for obesity relapse in previously obese persons and recovering anorexics, but also why future fat loss interventions become more difficult and unsuccessful. Although there are few long-term studies on the subject, the lingering effects of these adaptations can persist for years.

This is great stuff. So what are your thoughts on someone recovering from a VLCD? Do you suppose they'd have more success taking a full diet break and eating at maintenance (or even above), for a set period, or should they continue to plug along with the 'diet', but at a far more reasonable deficit than before?

People just need to take the decision and process of fat loss more seriously. There are many monumental decisions that we make in life - such as marriage, children and buying a home - which ought require extensive consideration. I believe fat loss to be up there with those. Unfortunately, this is a goal that most take too casually and end up making things far more difficult than need be with some rather undesirable consequences.

Within 24 hours, leptin serum concentration levels decrease upon restricting calories. This is how quickly and attune the body is at monitoring and responding to changes in energy balance. The longer one restricts, the more alterations occur and the further from baseline the values become. Of course, maintaining a severe deficit during this restrictive state will accelerate this decline at a faster rate.

When people reference a slowing down of the metabolism, a more accurate description is the body is becoming less proficient at using energy for the sake of conservation. In other words, your adjusted TDEE lessens to save energy as a result of chronic restriction. Thus, for example, your RMR demands less energy and you burn less calories from exercise. Your body doesn't consider what you're doing as a diet - it views it as the beginning of a famine and will try to protect itself. It will do so by two principle methods: reducing energy expenditure and returning to a certain 'set weight" during refeeds following rapid weight loss.

If one researches scholarly studies on VLCD that assessed changes in RMR/TDEE, LBM, as well as metabolic hormones such as leptin and ghrelin (and they're respective receptors), you'll notice significant alterations from baseline. These adaptations are not only responsible for obesity relapse in previously obese persons and recovering anorexics, but also why future fat loss interventions become more difficult and unsuccessful. Although there are few long-term studies on the subject, the lingering effects of these adaptations can persist for years.

This is great stuff. So what are your thoughts on someone recovering from a VLCD? Do you suppose they'd have more success taking a full diet break and eating at maintenance (or even above), for a set period, or should they continue to plug along with the 'diet', but at a far more reasonable deficit than before?

what r u considering a vlcd?

No, a few posts earlier, I explained I have a friend who has lost and then regained about 100lbs after using HCG. Her doctor won't advise her, and she has asked me what I think she should do. She is currently eating on a small deficit, exercising regularly and seeing no results for months now. I am just wondering if she shouldn't take a break entirely and go back to dieting later. Frankly, I do not want to give her any advice at ALL, it is too big of an issue for my knowledge, but she isn't getting any help from anyone and I fear that she will eventually give up and go for another round of HCG.

Hi Katie,

I also did the HCG diet a couple of years ago and I did indeed lose about 50 pounds and struggled for 2 years to keep it off. I was able to keep 25 pounds off but it was very hard. I have to basically do a very low carb diet. Then around July of this year I decided to trash the low carb and started eating more normal diet that included counting calories instead of carbs. I am much happier now eating fruits, grains and vegetables. I also bought turbo fire and I have become addicted to exercise. I am slowing correnting my metabolism. I have not lost much weight since, but the important this is I am not gaining anymore. I started HCG weighing 200 pounds in 2010 I went down to 150 and kept it off for a year and slowly gained up to 186. I count calories now and exercise every day for 30 min to 1 hour doing different exercise, such as zumba, turbo fire and just this week I bought T25. I am down to 171.8 and feel great. My goal is to get down to 160 and then will see where I go. I am taking it slow and steady. I try to follow a 1200 calorie diet but do occassionally go up to 1500 and still am not gaining the weight back. I love my life now. I have also changed my eating and don't get as hugry as I used to when strict dieting.

thanks for this post. I reminded me of my messed up metabolism.

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People just need to take the decision and process of fat loss more seriously. There are many monumental decisions that we make in life - such as marriage, children and buying a home - which ought require extensive consideration. I believe fat loss to be up there with those. Unfortunately, this is a goal that most take too casually and end up making things far more difficult than need be with some rather undesirable consequences.

Within 24 hours, leptin serum concentration levels decrease upon restricting calories. This is how quickly and attune the body is at monitoring and responding to changes in energy balance. The longer one restricts, the more alterations occur and the further from baseline the values become. Of course, maintaining a severe deficit during this restrictive state will accelerate this decline at a faster rate.

When people reference a slowing down of the metabolism, a more accurate description is the body is becoming less proficient at using energy for the sake of conservation. In other words, your adjusted TDEE lessens to save energy as a result of chronic restriction. Thus, for example, your RMR demands less energy and you burn less calories from exercise. Your body doesn't consider what you're doing as a diet - it views it as the beginning of a famine and will try to protect itself. It will do so by two principle methods: reducing energy expenditure and returning to a certain 'set weight" during refeeds following rapid weight loss.

If one researches scholarly studies on VLCD that assessed changes in RMR/TDEE, LBM, as well as metabolic hormones such as leptin and ghrelin (and they're respective receptors), you'll notice significant alterations from baseline. These adaptations are not only responsible for obesity relapse in previously obese persons and recovering anorexics, but also why future fat loss interventions become more difficult and unsuccessful. Although there are few long-term studies on the subject, the lingering effects of these adaptations can persist for years.

This is great stuff. So what are your thoughts on someone recovering from a VLCD? Do you suppose they'd have more success taking a full diet break and eating at maintenance (or even above), for a set period, or should they continue to plug along with the 'diet', but at a far more reasonable deficit than before?

Personally, I prefer people to engage in fat loss when everything is operating as optimal as possible. If she recently finished her VLCD diet, I'd suggest she weighs all her food and eats the maximum amount of calories until she reaches relative weight homeostasis.

This is another option, but she could visit an endocrinologist and test her metabolic hormones/RMR. After eating at maintenance for a few months, redo the tests again to see if the levels are improving. If they are, then she can continue to eat at maintenance until the doctors feel her hormones and ability to burn the most calories (higher TDEE) has recovered enough. Upon which, she can then go pursue fat loss again. I'm just not big on restricting for fat loss when a person's metabolic state isn't at its best.

I have a massive health-crush on Dr. Layne Norton.

I find him to be an absolute retard

My opinion