Why do people insist on giving (bad) advice?

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  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I don't disagree with anything you wrote except I'll say that many folks still believe that fat causes weight gain and that eating low fat is a requirement for weight loss. Look at "pay diets" like Jenny Craig. My own sibling was told not to eat avocados (this year) by Jenny Craig because they are high fat...

    Prevailing wisdom, such as it is, is ever changing. Stick around here long enough and you'll see it here even.

    Congrats on your success!

    Ugh. I had a friend who was on something, maybe Weight Watchers, and she wasn't allowed to eat watermelon. I was like "Seriously? Watermelon is one of the most nutritious and delicious things you can eat." She kept going on about glycemic index garbage (she's not diabetic).
    For many folks, the glycemic index is what works best for them.It gives them a framework. Some folks want/need that.
    I'm glad you found the approach that works best for you. That said, I've never understood the watermelon thing either.

    But yes, my point was the thing with fat is not an opinion from the 60s. It's still a commonly held and commonly taught.
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    I think a lot of people have had one bit of success with a certain weigh loss program or tactic and that causes them to believe it is "the only way".

    How many people do you know who say "LOW CARB IS THE ONLY WAY!" and stuff like that...

    When I am asked how I'm losing weight and mention MFP most people irl have the reaction of "OH that won't work for me..."
  • TX_Rhon
    TX_Rhon Posts: 1,549 Member
    Congrats on the loss!! Just keep going and let the unsolicited advice go in one ear and out the other. I get the same reactions when people see me with a Starbucks. :drinker: Which is quite often, ha!

    Keep up the good work :flowerforyou:
  • lucystacy71
    lucystacy71 Posts: 290 Member
    Like others have said, I think those people honestly think they are being helpful. What makes it so frustrating is that what you are doing is obviously working, so why do they think you need to do anything differently?

    My dad is the worse. He should know better because he was a nurse, but he's always giving me unsolicited, unwanted, and unsafe advice. My favorite was when he told me the best way to lose some weight was to get some laxatives and then take twice the recommended dose each day. He seriously told me that, but thankfully I knew better.

    Another part of this really boils down to personal responsibility. When you tell someone that all you've done is to watch your calories and made sure to exercise more, they don't want to think it could be that simple. If it were that simple, then they no longer have their excuses to hide behind that something other than what they ate and their activity level led to their current weight. I know I was like that for a long, long time. It wasn't until I accepted that my decisions had led me to this place that I was able to start making changes.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I think a lot of people have had one bit of success with a certain weigh loss program or tactic and that causes them to believe it is "the only way".

    How many people do you know who say "LOW CARB IS THE ONLY WAY!" and stuff like that...

    When I am asked how I'm losing weight and mention MFP most people irl have the reaction of "OH that won't work for me..."
    Great point. I see this daily on here, in fact.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Good work Posh! :smile: :flowerforyou:
  • lynn1982
    lynn1982 Posts: 1,439 Member
    It is just indicative of just how widespread misinformation about weight and fitness management really is.

    This. And Dr. Oz. ;)

    I'll never understand unsolicited advice, especially when you're doing something that works for you! That being said, for some people, counting calories is just way too overwhelming. Yes, it's easy once you get into it, but at the beginning it can be an all-consuming experience. (That was my experience, anyway. But, I kept at it...I have a friend who couldn't deal with it and went on a super restrictive diet instead. She quickly gained it all back.) For others, "trick" diets such as not eating carbs after 3pm or a cabbage soup diet WORK to lose weight...it's not that one NEEDS to do those things to lose weight (obviously), but that they're actually cutting calories. Of course, it's unsustainable... and that's why it doesn't work in the long run. Anyway, congratulations on the weight loss!
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    different things work for different people......

    It is saying things like this that leads most people down the wrong track. It is at best a half truth.

    Different things work for different people usually only in terms of sustainability. If someone needs to avoid certain foods to avoid binging, then I'm all for it. But telling people that this is the only way to lose weight and calories don't matter is laughable.

    ^^ This +1
  • sunsetzen
    sunsetzen Posts: 268 Member
    Its just advice. Why do you insist on trying to control what others say? If you dont want to follow the advice, dont. Dont get so upset over something so trivial.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    People are misinformed, that's all.

    For a long time my aunt believed if you don't eat after seven o'clock at night you will lose weight. Turns out her daughter told her she doesn't eat after seven seven at night and she'd lost weight. The logic behind that was the my cousin ate healthy during the day but if she ate after dinner she went for the brownies and other sweets in the house, therefore either eating to maintenance or overeating and gaining weight. :smile:

    Being fat my entire life, I grew up being told I could not eat "fattening" foods, or that certain "diets" would help me lose weight. I tried them all and they worked just fine until I went off of them and started eating normally again.

    Egg diet, cabbage soup diet, slim fast, just everything under the sun.

    Yep, what I've been doing the last several months works just fine--eating at a calorie deficit and adding in that wonderful exercise each day/ It works just fine for me. :smile:

    When people try to tell me about diets that work, I just tell them I don't diet and I don't believe in them at all. They just look at me like they've got the answer and I don't. Oh well.
  • Going based on just the title of your post im gonna say "Opinions are like *kitten*, everybody has one". They feel as though what works for them should or probably works for everyone.
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    I Had to travel with a "family friend" who I hadn't see in a while and she was complaining about how hard it was to lose weight (She is easily 80 lbs overweight) . She said she was going to hit it every day with P90x!

    I said "Cool... go for it. By the way I have lost 20 lbs and it has taken me about 8 months to do it and I just log everything I eat and try to burn more calories than I take in). I told her I have proabably 20-30 lbs to go depending on my bodyfat and the first thing she said was "better do it safe; you don't want to get too skinny". WTF - When I get to my goal weight I will still weigh 30 lbs more than when I graduated high school (I had no LBM!)

    People are mostly clueless...

    I know I was clueless as recently as 8 months ago I actually took Raspberry Ketones - (WTF directed at myself in the mirror LOL):drinker:
  • Tropical_Turtle
    Tropical_Turtle Posts: 2,236 Member
    With quacks like Dr Oz distributing information it really is no surprise this is happening. All I can say, is keep doing you, and forget everyone else.
  • ThePlight
    ThePlight Posts: 3,593 Member
    With quacks like Dr Oz distributing information it really is no surprise this is happening. All I can say, is keep doing you, and forget everyone else.

    This.
    My boyfriend got me some freaking "Acai berry" pills, those things made my stomach hurt. I threw them in the garbage. I told him how I'm going to lose the weight myself by eating healthy, he's a believer in Dr Oz, I honestly don't care who this... Person is, trying to sell all this garbage to people that are trying to lose weight.
    I only tried it because I promised my boyfriend, but never again.
  • Ke22yB
    Ke22yB Posts: 969 Member
    First sorry to say no matter how much weight you lose IT WILL never end people will always want to correct you
    Second a piece of advice Ignore all advice and if its it ain't broke don't fix it It works for you great job doing it and keep it up.
    I am in a fitness class and after I had lost almost 130 pounds a newer member asks are you losing weight ? He was not in the class previous years and didn't know me that well so I just said yes i have lost some weight he then proceeds to take 5 minutes telling me what I should be doing. A friend came over and heard this and was laughing so hard I thought he was about to pee down his leg. The guy puzzled asks what is so funny so friend says he has lost over 130 pounds so far I think he has got this one. He says OH and just walks away.
    But there will always be some guy giving me advice and I smile and nod and say thanks for that and promptly go about my business
  • lucystacy71
    lucystacy71 Posts: 290 Member
    I could never understand why people are so ready to believe everything Dr Oz says.

    Maybe so many people are searching for that miracle cure for fat they're willing to believe anything?
  • Congrats on your weightloss, my advice is keep doing what you are already doing and stop letting the good opinion of others or bad advice of others get you down, stress is not good for your body. Simply respond by saying; thank you all for your advice but what i am doing is working for me so I will continue to keep on keepin on, hope you all can find something that works for you as well, peace out!!!
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    I think they honestly just want to be helpful, but unfortunately most people get their dietary information from magazines and Dr. Oz.

    Pretty much this. My brother and father would constantly ask me "Why are you eating ice cream when you're trying to lose weight?" or "you shouldn't be weight lifting, you need to eat only salad and run!"

    My father saw me after like 6 months and now won't offer his suggestion. He admits that I might know what I'm dong and am doing it the healthy way so I got that going for me :)
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    I have worked with many people, and EVERYONE has the secret to weight loss. Whether it is no/low carbs, gluten free, blah blah blah. It is really hard to listen to, and I have to bite my tongue a lot of the time.

    Most case - these fads work because you are cutting calories. Going carb-free? Lower calories...eating nothing but soup? lower calories. It makes no difference what it is, if you cut your calories you will lose weight. Though, they may think the same about me.

    I have made this life-style change more personal, and I do not talk about it much with others. I just do what needs to get done so I dont need to argue with people about what works and what doesn't. Sometimes I like to think as if I have been doing the consistent exercise and healthIER eating my entire life - so I dont feel obligated to talk about it. I don't imagine in-shape skinny folks go around talking about why they are skinny, and I find this mentality helps keep my mouth shut! Plus I have all the wonderful people on MFP to talk with who are (for the most part) educated (to some degree).
  • Jkn922
    Jkn922 Posts: 74
    I find that the people who are willing to give the advice and shove information down your throat are the ones who think they know everything but do nothing themselves, it's one of those things that make themselves feel better but it's a false sense of security as they think they know what they are talking about. Keep going regardless, I also don't inform people of my weight loss journey as I get people throwing 'opinions' to me too.
  • kellyskitties
    kellyskitties Posts: 475 Member
    This is the reason I keep my plan and progress private at work/social areas. I don't point out what I can and cannot have (which is limited by my calorie limit and protein minimum at this time). I just fix a plate and eat. When others know then what you choose or don't choose starts to be open for public debate. It's not. It's my decisions, even when I make bad decisions to go over my calories. It's all about me.

    It did come up one day when someone noticed the weight loss. Another coworker immediately started talking about how she can't give anything up. I told her right now, I haven't. It's just a different balance. She just glazed over and made a list of the things she can't give up - one being candy, as I was eating a piece of candy from her desk candy bowl. LOL.

    I think people are just looking for A) a way to be helpful B) don't want to see you doing it a "hard" way cause then it must be hard or C) Don't want to think that their idea can't be right for everyone.

    I don't diss anyone doing any diet unless it's dangerous. If low carb/low sugar/low fat/no meat/organic and so forth works for you then great. If it doesn't - then you need to make some changes. If mine is working - leave it alone. When it stops, I'll consider some tweaks.

    OP: If what you are doing works - keep on keeping on. Lead by example. That's my plan.
  • annakow
    annakow Posts: 385 Member
    That's why I am not adding people as friends ..pointless.. after 100 lbs lost I don't need their little advices and daily drama...Another thing is when people ask you @how on earth you lost so much?@..and the moment they hear about eating less, they are insulted...it's crazy.
  • annakow
    annakow Posts: 385 Member
    this is so true!
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    This is the reason I keep my plan and progress private at work/social areas.

    I don't diss anyone doing any diet unless it's dangerous. If low carb/low sugar/low fat/no meat/organic and so forth works for you then great. If it doesn't - then you need to make some changes. If mine is working - leave it alone. When it stops, I'll consider some tweaks.

    OP: If what you are doing works - keep on keeping on. Lead by example. That's my plan.
    Pretty much this.
  • TribeHokie
    TribeHokie Posts: 711 Member
    This is one of the reasons I don't talk to people about it.

    Also, at the risk of sounding rude (not my intention), since this hasn't been pointed out yet: OP, you are kind of asking for people to comment and give advice if you're posting about it on facebook. Don't put it out there in the first place and people won't have the chance to comment. They might even be trying to get a rise out of you because they think you're bragging.
  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    Congrats on your 50 lbs !! Awesome work .

    I too think people want to be helpful . I have only had one person tell me( when I was in a plateau) , that I needed to eat less than 1,000 calories a day to break the plateau. I just politely thanked him for his advice and changed my exercises and increased my intensity and bam it started falling off again. He asked me about three weeks later if I had taken his advice and broken through-I said no and explained what I did while continuing to eat like I normally do ( 1,200 to 1,600 cals a day) He was shocked that I started losing again he said he always thought you had to eat less than a 1,000 calories a day to lose weight.


    I do talk about my diet and weight loss all the time . I can't help it I'm obsessed in a good way . I get bad advice all the time lol I just ignore it or say well if My way stops working maybe I'll try your way ?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    So, why then, does everyone who sees or hears that I have lost weight insist on giving me advice?

    Because we're social creatures, and biologically programmed to stick our nose in other people's business. As should be evident by the fact that we're all posting to a bunch of strangers on an internet chat board. :)

    Gotta just let it all roll off your back, like water off of a duck.
  • ckspores1018
    ckspores1018 Posts: 168 Member
    If I post on facebook that I have lost weight a bunch of people ask how and when I say that I just count calories a bunch of other people chime in to inform me that I should be cutting carbs.

    congrats on your loss!

    Other than what everyone has said, if you don't want unsolicited advice on Facebook, don't humblebrag on Facebook. It is the nature of the beast, to some extent.
  • GardeningZombie
    GardeningZombie Posts: 55 Member
    50 lbs of weight loss is great... But you really should reduce your protein intake. After all, the human body is 70% water, so I get 70% of my calories from liquids... Coke, olive oil, milkshakes, and pork chop smoothies


    :drinker: :bigsmile:
  • elsdonward
    elsdonward Posts: 81 Member
    Well let me just say this. In my country we used to go around and if we needed to know anything we just asked people for advice.

    Then somewhere between the seventies and the eighties some bright sparks appeared who started saying that giving advice was wrong. In fact in the end people were victimised for giving the wrong advice. You would think that this was good - but no it was not. Companies were hounded out and prosecuted for giving the wrong advice they said.
    Then people appeared who said that you could not acll a ballcock a ballcock. So what was good for our parents, who brought us into the world and stood up and fought in the war - was not good enough for these people. No - they had to change the world by pointing their fingers at the least thing and declaring it wrong. Meanwhile we went form a first class power to a nobody - our toilets are stinking or non existent. Councils are allowed to turf sick people out of their homes and our pensions are not worth the money that they were printed on. It is simply a total lack of social responsibility where we disrespect our elders. You would not like to live in our country.

    So I say listen to all the advice that you can - some of the advice is sound because it opens our eyes to all of the crappy things that are going on - all of the shilly things they are putting into our food because there is no monitoring going on anymore.

    We are descending into the slough of despond and we can only save ourselves and our loved ones - and the first thing to do is to start caring for people. People are just lost in the absence of good advice and shackled to a silent government with no strength or leadership to guide us with our nutrition and how to preserve our health. So they believe that they are right but in most cases they just do not know what real food is anymore and just eat the junk that is peddled.