Food that contains next to no sugar at least?

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  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    I'll be nice about this. Meats, eggs, almonds, peanuts, carrots, green beans, lettuce, water. Probably most veggies, now that I think about it.

    To note; I made it pretty clear on another thread where I sit on the whole "sugar is teh devuls!!!!" nonsense. It involves the word "nonsense". But, if you wanna restrict your calories by eating low sugar foods, knock yourself out. The above list, along the other lists that have been provided, should give you a good idea of where to start, and should taste good.

    Since the OP is scared of carrots, with 5 g of sugar in 100 grams of carrots, I doubt she's going to be willing to eat almonds (4 g of sugar in 100 g of almonds); maybe she'll be able to deal with lettuce (1 gram of sugar in 100 grams of butterhead lettuce), but I doubt it.
    No sugar in peanuts or green beans (but that won't stop her body from breaking the complex carbs down into glucose).


    It's pretty clear that the OP is not going to listen to anyone who tells her anything she doesn't want to hear, but one more try: That sugar goal/limit MFP puts on your food diary? That's for ADDED sugar. ADDED. The USDA's dietary guidelines say no more than 5% to 15% of your calories from added sugar. That's 19 to 57 grams of ADDED sugar if you're eating 1500 calories a day, or 15 to 46 grams of ADDED sugar if you're eating 1200 calories a day. The American Heart Association says no more than 100 calories (25 grams) of ADDED sugar per day for women. I really don't think there's any reputable medical advise out to stop eating carrots because they have too much sugar in them.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    Anyway, unprocessed foods are low in sugar. Meat, vegetables, nuts, eggs, avocados, ... I could go on and on. Fruit has sugar but in moderate amounts fruit is healthy. Personally, I do limit fruit because I am healthier by doing so.

    Limitting sugar is not an unnecessary "restriction" for me. I'm not "suffering" and it's not "hard". Being fat and sick was fricken hard and miserable. Not being able to run and jump and play with my child was hard. Thinking, for years, that I am a worthless piece of crap with no willpower was hard. I was obese, had many metabolic disorders, depression and BED. There are many people just like me here at MFP. For those people (and likely the majority) the sugar matters. If it doesn't matter for you, great, but telling anyone that is over-weight that sugar doesn't matter is just plain wrong, ignorant and sabotaging.

    OP is young and only has about 20lb to loose. Not everyone has your issues.
  • davenporter
    davenporter Posts: 30 Member
    Eating fruit isn't going to kill you. The important thing is making sure all the foods you eat have nutritional value, especially focusing on dietary fiber and protein. Fruits are often rich in fiber which means the sugar in that apple isn't going to kill you. Also, if you spread out the sugar throughout the day and don't spike your blood sugar level, you'll be in pretty good shape.

    Honestly, I don't really eat fruit. I focus on veggies and high-protein sources and that's worked well for me.

    As for foods that are low sugar/low carb:
    1. Eggs
    2. Meat (deli cuts, chicken, beef, sausages - Trader Joe's has some great low-cal chicken sausage in different flavors)
    3. Cheese
    4. Vegetables (I like to use the steamable packages)
    5. Some Protein Powders (check the nutrition facts)
    6. Some Protein Bars (again, check nutrition facts -- sugar alcohols won't spike your blood sugar levels, but too much may give you the runs)
    7. Greek Yogurt
    8. Ranch dressing
    9. Almonds, Cashews, Pistachios
    10. I love the La Tortilla Factory 100-calorie wraps, or alternatively other high-protein, high-fiber wraps.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    Anyway, unprocessed foods are low in sugar. Meat, vegetables, nuts, eggs, avocados, ... I could go on and on. Fruit has sugar but in moderate amounts fruit is healthy. Personally, I do limit fruit because I am healthier by doing so.

    Limitting sugar is not an unnecessary "restriction" for me. I'm not "suffering" and it's not "hard". Being fat and sick was fricken hard and miserable. Not being able to run and jump and play with my child was hard. Thinking, for years, that I am a worthless piece of crap with no willpower was hard. I was obese, had many metabolic disorders, depression and BED. There are many people just like me here at MFP. For those people (and likely the majority) the sugar matters. If it doesn't matter for you, great, but telling anyone that is over-weight that sugar doesn't matter is just plain wrong, ignorant and sabotaging.

    Thank you! Obviously some people are just ignorant and follow the standard norms of the food industry. People need to educate themselves.

    For all of you who think it's about calories only, not sugar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moQZd1-BC0Y

    To be fair they are talking about sugar without fiber. Whole fruit is good, processed sugar (and juice) is bad.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

    Now, I don't buy into this, but your body your choice.

    No, just no.

    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
  • Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.



    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/18/sugar-in-pet-treats-and-pet-food-lead-to-obesity.aspx
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pets/msg0621425632348.html
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/?page=badingredients
    http://www.petobesityprevention.com/kibble-crack-–-vet-exposes-sugary-secret-of-pet-treats/
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.



    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/18/sugar-in-pet-treats-and-pet-food-lead-to-obesity.aspx
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pets/msg0621425632348.html
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/?page=badingredients
    http://www.petobesityprevention.com/kibble-crack-–-vet-exposes-sugary-secret-of-pet-treats/

    Merclola is not a reputable source.

    Didn't bother with the rest after seeing that one.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    Never mind, carry on eating no sugar. You'll be fine and that leaves more candy for me.

    I'm not sure she's going to be fine if she's carrying it to the point where she can't even eat carrots. She's pretty much going to have to eliminate all plant-based foods and dairy from her diet if she wants to eliminate sugar. Soluble fiber (found in plant foods) helps lower blood glucose levels (not to mention cholesterol), and since her body will likely start breaking down proteins to manufacture glucose, she will still have sugar in her bloodstream. I'm sure she'll enjoy the results of a diet with no insoluble fiber either (constipation is so much fun).

    I hate to be callous, but why bother? Clearly the OP believes she's correct, despite many warnings. Though I wonder why she needed to ask this question if she knows so much about the dangers of sugar.

    Sometimes Darwinism needs to take place. Don't fight it.

    Sigh. You're probably right. (Does anybody else think it's ironic that MFP has a rule against encouraging unhealthy eating behaviors, yet they post that ridiculously low sugar limit that frightens people into thinking they can't even eat two pieces of fruit in a day? Or one piece of fruit and two glasses of milk?)
  • AmykinsCatfood
    AmykinsCatfood Posts: 599 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.



    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/18/sugar-in-pet-treats-and-pet-food-lead-to-obesity.aspx
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pets/msg0621425632348.html
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/?page=badingredients
    http://www.petobesityprevention.com/kibble-crack-–-vet-exposes-sugary-secret-of-pet-treats/

    Yeah ok. I'll take crappy pet websites information over the very expensive, extensive training I undertook.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Never mind, carry on eating no sugar. You'll be fine and that leaves more candy for me.

    I'm not sure she's going to be fine if she's carrying it to the point where she can't even eat carrots. She's pretty much going to have to eliminate all plant-based foods and dairy from her diet if she wants to eliminate sugar. Soluble fiber (found in plant foods) helps lower blood glucose levels (not to mention cholesterol), and since her body will likely start breaking down proteins to manufacture glucose, she will still have sugar in her bloodstream. I'm sure she'll enjoy the results of a diet with no insoluble fiber either (constipation is so much fun).

    I hate to be callous, but why bother? Clearly the OP believes she's correct, despite many warnings. Though I wonder why she needed to ask this question if she knows so much about the dangers of sugar.

    Sometimes Darwinism needs to take place. Don't fight it.

    Sigh. You're probably right. (Does anybody else think it's ironic that MFP has a rule against encouraging unhealthy eating behaviors, yet they post that ridiculously low sugar limit that frightens people into thinking they can't even eat two pieces of fruit in a day? Or one piece of fruit and two glasses of milk?)

    You are not the only one.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    You can't simply get diabetes by eating a ton of sugar. Being overweight/obese for a considerable amount of time can add to the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

    You are right, eating sugar does not cause diabetes. But show me the people who eat " tons of sugar " who are not overweight or even obese. ( Of course the exception are our members often in their 20's who spend all their free time in the gym and then brag how many doughnuts they eat ) I am willing to bet that those with normal weight are the exception. Those people who are fat among other things from eating " tons of sugar " will most likely have developed tons of fat and all of a sudden sugar matters. Assuming that most people who are here are overweight to obese ( many of them " for a long time " ), one could assume that many of them are at risk in regard to diabetes.
    I think for most of the MFP members it would be a good idea to not overdo ( I am not talking eliminate ) sugar, because let's face it, most of us are overweight and obese and have not been so just since just last week. This means that our diabetes risk is real either now or maybe 5-10-20 or more years in the future.
  • Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.



    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/18/sugar-in-pet-treats-and-pet-food-lead-to-obesity.aspx
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pets/msg0621425632348.html
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/?page=badingredients
    http://www.petobesityprevention.com/kibble-crack-–-vet-exposes-sugary-secret-of-pet-treats/

    Yeah ok. I'll take crappy pet websites information over the very expensive, extensive training I undertook.


    :laugh: :laugh: You ppl are soooo funny. Carry on.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    Anyway, unprocessed foods are low in sugar. Meat, vegetables, nuts, eggs, avocados, ... I could go on and on. Fruit has sugar but in moderate amounts fruit is healthy. Personally, I do limit fruit because I am healthier by doing so.

    Limitting sugar is not an unnecessary "restriction" for me. I'm not "suffering" and it's not "hard". Being fat and sick was fricken hard and miserable. Not being able to run and jump and play with my child was hard. Thinking, for years, that I am a worthless piece of crap with no willpower was hard. I was obese, had many metabolic disorders, depression and BED. There are many people just like me here at MFP. For those people (and likely the majority) the sugar matters. If it doesn't matter for you, great, but telling anyone that is over-weight that sugar doesn't matter is just plain wrong, ignorant and sabotaging.

    Thank you! Obviously some people are just ignorant and follow the standard norms of the food industry. People need to educate themselves.

    For all of you who think it's about calories only, not sugar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moQZd1-BC0Y

    I wasn't going to say anything but the whole "ignorant" and "educate themselves" comments irked me. You are right that many people do need to educate themselves, and that would include those who think any one particular food is inherently evil.

    I don't post often, but zealotry gets my goat a bit.

    It should also include those who post videos by Lolstig and claim they are 'educated' about the issue and others are ignorant.
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    Anyway, unprocessed foods are low in sugar. Meat, vegetables, nuts, eggs, avocados, ... I could go on and on. Fruit has sugar but in moderate amounts fruit is healthy. Personally, I do limit fruit because I am healthier by doing so.

    Limitting sugar is not an unnecessary "restriction" for me. I'm not "suffering" and it's not "hard". Being fat and sick was fricken hard and miserable. Not being able to run and jump and play with my child was hard. Thinking, for years, that I am a worthless piece of crap with no willpower was hard. I was obese, had many metabolic disorders, depression and BED. There are many people just like me here at MFP. For those people (and likely the majority) the sugar matters. If it doesn't matter for you, great, but telling anyone that is over-weight that sugar doesn't matter is just plain wrong, ignorant and sabotaging.

    Thank you! Obviously some people are just ignorant and follow the standard norms of the food industry. People need to educate themselves.

    For all of you who think it's about calories only, not sugar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moQZd1-BC0Y

    I wasn't going to say anything but the whole "ignorant" and "educate themselves" comments irked me. You are right that many people do need to educate themselves, and that would include those who think any one particular food is inherently evil.

    I don't post often, but zealotry gets my goat a bit.

    It should also include those who post videos by Lolstig and claim they are 'educated' about the issue and others are ignorant.
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  • Huffdogg
    Huffdogg Posts: 1,934 Member
    I'm trying to limit my sugar but it's sacrificing my calories. I usually have a smoothie in the morning (which takes a majority of my sugar intake), a frittata for lunch and some form of meat with vegetables for dinner and I plan to snack on carrots (although I should find something else because they have lots of sugar too). So what are some options I could try? Note: I can't eat peanuts.

    As of what I've gotten down for day I'm 4g over my sugar and I'm 309 calories short of my goal. Thanks for the help!

    Chicken, fish, beef, pork, venison, bison
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Never mind, carry on eating no sugar. You'll be fine and that leaves more candy for me.

    I'm not sure she's going to be fine if she's carrying it to the point where she can't even eat carrots. She's pretty much going to have to eliminate all plant-based foods and dairy from her diet if she wants to eliminate sugar. Soluble fiber (found in plant foods) helps lower blood glucose levels (not to mention cholesterol), and since her body will likely start breaking down proteins to manufacture glucose, she will still have sugar in her bloodstream. I'm sure she'll enjoy the results of a diet with no insoluble fiber either (constipation is so much fun).

    I hate to be callous, but why bother? Clearly the OP believes she's correct, despite many warnings. Though I wonder why she needed to ask this question if she knows so much about the dangers of sugar.

    Sometimes Darwinism needs to take place. Don't fight it.

    Sigh. You're probably right. (Does anybody else think it's ironic that MFP has a rule against encouraging unhealthy eating behaviors, yet they post that ridiculously low sugar limit that frightens people into thinking they can't even eat two pieces of fruit in a day? Or one piece of fruit and two glasses of milk?)

    I lobbied briefly for MFP to stop tracking sugar as one of it's 5 default nutrients but to no avail.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    Triscuits. Enjoy!
  • davenporter
    davenporter Posts: 30 Member
    Yes, it is problematic that MFP is taking it to an extreme with sugar limitation, but on the other hand, having the low sugar goal to aim for can help people to try to fill their diets with high protein, high fiber, low carb sources of food that will keep them full longer and have more success on their diets.

    If you're going to cut your sugar intake, you should be aware that flour (even whole wheat flour) will spike your blood sugar levels just as well as any sugar source. So if you're that determined to stay away from sugar for health reasons, cut bread, crackers, cookies out of your diet completely as well. I assume most of you are smart enough to know that already, but just in case, here you go.
  • iechick
    iechick Posts: 352 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    You can't simply get diabetes by eating a ton of sugar. Being overweight/obese for a considerable amount of time can add to the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

    You are right, eating sugar does not cause diabetes. But show me the people who eat " tons of sugar " who are not overweight or even obese. ( Of course the exception are our members often in their 20's who spend all their free time in the gym and then brag how many doughnuts they eat ) I am willing to bet that those with normal weight are the exception. Those people who are fat among other things from eating " tons of sugar " will most likely have developed tons of fat and all of a sudden sugar matters. Assuming that most people who are here are overweight to obese ( many of them " for a long time " ), one could assume that many of them are at risk in regard to diabetes.
    I think for most of the MFP members it would be a good idea to not overdo ( I am not talking eliminate ) sugar, because let's face it, most of us are overweight and obese and have not been so just since just last week. This means that our diabetes risk is real either now or maybe 5-10-20 or more years in the future.

    From the OP-"I plan to snack on carrots (although I should find something else because they have lots of sugar too)." We are not talking about someone eating 'tons of sugar" (whatever that means), and wanting to make some sensible changes, but someone who's afraid to eat CARROTS and fruit because of sugar.

    ORTHOREXIA "We are all encouraged to follow a healthy diet, but some people take it too far, limiting their diets to food that they consider to be pure to the exclusion of everything else.... Some of them end up with orthorexia, a severe eating disorder. People who have orthorexia have a distortion of thinking about what constitutes good health and an unhealthy obsession with eating only healthy foods..."
    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/orthorexia-obsession-healthy-foods-leads-eating-disorder/story?id=10173614
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    Why are you eliminating sugar? Unless you're diabetic there really is no reason.

    I want to bash the screen every time I see this. Of course, wait until AFTER you have diabetes to think about sugar... :noway: With all the people walking around with metabolic disorders, yes, sugar matters. If someone has excess body fat, the sugar matters. If someone is a very fit body builder, the sugar probably matters less.

    You can't simply get diabetes by eating a ton of sugar. Being overweight/obese for a considerable amount of time can add to the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

    You are right, eating sugar does not cause diabetes. But show me the people who eat " tons of sugar " who are not overweight or even obese. ( Of course the exception are our members often in their 20's who spend all their free time in the gym and then brag how many doughnuts they eat ) I am willing to bet that those with normal weight are the exception. Those people who are fat among other things from eating " tons of sugar " will most likely have developed tons of fat and all of a sudden sugar matters. Assuming that most people who are here are overweight to obese ( many of them " for a long time " ), one could assume that many of them are at risk in regard to diabetes.
    I think for most of the MFP members it would be a good idea to not overdo ( I am not talking eliminate ) sugar, because let's face it, most of us are overweight and obese and have not been so just since just last week. This means that our diabetes risk is real either now or maybe 5-10-20 or more years in the future.

    From the OP-"I plan to snack on carrots (although I should find something else because they have lots of sugar too)." We are not talking about someone eating 'tons of sugar" (whatever that means), and wanting to make some sensible changes, but someone who's afraid to eat CARROTS and fruit because of sugar.

    ORTHOREXIA "We are all encouraged to follow a healthy diet, but some people take it too far, limiting their diets to food that they consider to be pure to the exclusion of everything else.... Some of them end up with orthorexia, a severe eating disorder. People who have orthorexia have a distortion of thinking about what constitutes good health and an unhealthy obsession with eating only healthy foods..."
    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/orthorexia-obsession-healthy-foods-leads-eating-disorder/story?id=10173614


    ^^This. Thanks for making it so clear.
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    I know we are all different (and I hope everyone else here knows we are all different too lol) but I leave sucrose/sweets/chocolate/iceream alone whenever possible. I did this before even thinking about my physical health because of the effect it has on my emotional health. There are some people who have adverse responses to sugar (very simple carbs). If you don't and you can eat sugar without effect then great. If you do have an adverse response (I get as cranky as hell, anxious and depressed as well as craving more and more of the stuff) then leaving it alone is very good advice. For me fruit does not cause this response so I chomp my way thought loads of it. Honey is marginal but I love it and it doesn't seriously affect me- man made goodies like sweets and chocolate sent me into a nosedive and I leave that stuff alone. For me its all about working out what works for ourselves. What works for me may not work for you and conversely what works for you may not work for me. Its all about trial and error. I know I couldn't change my lifestyle while eating sugar so I've ditched it. I don't think this is what the OP was going on about but I think its worth adding this to the mixing pot.
  • Jay_Jay_
    Jay_Jay_ Posts: 194 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.

    Holy hell, it is scary that you are a vet tech. What do you think the primary ingredient in most cat food is? CORN. A carb, AKA sugar, a carb. Cat's are supposed to be on high protein diets. Sure Cat's get fat because of POOR DIET, and INACTIVITY. But you can bet that a cat on a grain free diet is going to be FAR healthier than a cat eating whatever comes from the cheapest shelf in a walmart pet aisle. You are not going to see an "Obese" cat on a grain free diet, that is for sure.

    Heres what most people feed their cats(Note "by-product", "corn, corn, rice, cellulose"):
    Chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, brewers rice, powdered cellulose, beef tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), turkey by-product, salmon meal, fish meal source of oceanfish flavor), brewers dried yeast, gelatin, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, alfalfa, gelatin, phosphoric acid, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, taurine, l-lysine zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, l-alanine, dl-methionine, yellow 6, manganese sulfate, niacin, vitamin E supplement, yellow 5, copper sulfate, red 40, calcium pantothenate, blue 2, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, rosemary extract, pyridoxine hydrochloride, sodium selenite, vitamin B12 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity).

    Heres what is in what I feed my cat:
    Chicken,Chicken Broth,Water,Turkey,Chicken Liver,Egg Whites,Potato Starch,Natural Flavor,Sodium Phosphate,Dried Egg,Potassium Chloride,Carrageenan,Taurine,Salt,Vitamin A Supplement,Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1),Riboflavin(Vitamin B2),Niacin (Vitamin B3),d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5),
    Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6),Biotin (Vitamin B7),Folic Acid (Vitamin B9),Vitamin B12 Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement,Vitamin E Supplement,Iron Amino Acid Chelate,Zinc Amino Acid Chelate,Copper Amino Acid Chelate,Manganese Amino Acid Chelate,Potassium Iodide,Choline Chloride,Calcium Carbonatetobacillus acidophilus fermentation product,Dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product,Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product
  • dinosnopro
    dinosnopro Posts: 2,177 Member
    Sand..... There isn't much sugar in sand.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.

    Holy hell, it is scary that you are a vet tech. What do you think the primary ingredient in most cat food is? CORN. A carb, AKA sugar, a carb. Cat's are supposed to be on high protein diets. Sure Cat's get fat because of POOR DIET, and INACTIVITY. But you can bet that a cat on a grain free diet is going to be FAR healthier than a cat eating whatever comes from the cheapest shelf in a walmart pet aisle. You are not going to see an "Obese" cat on a grain free diet, that is for sure.

    Heres what most people feed their cats(Note "by-product", "corn, corn, rice, cellulose"):
    Chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, brewers rice, powdered cellulose, beef tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), turkey by-product, salmon meal, fish meal source of oceanfish flavor), brewers dried yeast, gelatin, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, alfalfa, gelatin, phosphoric acid, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, taurine, l-lysine zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, l-alanine, dl-methionine, yellow 6, manganese sulfate, niacin, vitamin E supplement, yellow 5, copper sulfate, red 40, calcium pantothenate, blue 2, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, rosemary extract, pyridoxine hydrochloride, sodium selenite, vitamin B12 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity).

    Heres what is in what I feed my cat:
    Chicken,Chicken Broth,Water,Turkey,Chicken Liver,Egg Whites,Potato Starch,Natural Flavor,Sodium Phosphate,Dried Egg,Potassium Chloride,Carrageenan,Taurine,Salt,Vitamin A Supplement,Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1),Riboflavin(Vitamin B2),Niacin (Vitamin B3),d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5),
    Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6),Biotin (Vitamin B7),Folic Acid (Vitamin B9),Vitamin B12 Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement,Vitamin E Supplement,Iron Amino Acid Chelate,Zinc Amino Acid Chelate,Copper Amino Acid Chelate,Manganese Amino Acid Chelate,Potassium Iodide,Choline Chloride,Calcium Carbonatetobacillus acidophilus fermentation product,Dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product,Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product

    And proteins and fats are broken down into glucose through gluconeogenesis.
  • Jay_Jay_
    Jay_Jay_ Posts: 194 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.

    Holy hell, it is scary that you are a vet tech. What do you think the primary ingredient in most cat food is? CORN. A carb, AKA sugar, a carb. Cat's are supposed to be on high protein diets. Sure Cat's get fat because of POOR DIET, and INACTIVITY. But you can bet that a cat on a grain free diet is going to be FAR healthier than a cat eating whatever comes from the cheapest shelf in a walmart pet aisle. You are not going to see an "Obese" cat on a grain free diet, that is for sure.

    Heres what most people feed their cats(Note "by-product", "corn, corn, rice, cellulose"):
    Chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, brewers rice, powdered cellulose, beef tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), turkey by-product, salmon meal, fish meal source of oceanfish flavor), brewers dried yeast, gelatin, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, alfalfa, gelatin, phosphoric acid, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, taurine, l-lysine zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, l-alanine, dl-methionine, yellow 6, manganese sulfate, niacin, vitamin E supplement, yellow 5, copper sulfate, red 40, calcium pantothenate, blue 2, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, rosemary extract, pyridoxine hydrochloride, sodium selenite, vitamin B12 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity).

    Heres what is in what I feed my cat:
    Chicken,Chicken Broth,Water,Turkey,Chicken Liver,Egg Whites,Potato Starch,Natural Flavor,Sodium Phosphate,Dried Egg,Potassium Chloride,Carrageenan,Taurine,Salt,Vitamin A Supplement,Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1),Riboflavin(Vitamin B2),Niacin (Vitamin B3),d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5),
    Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6),Biotin (Vitamin B7),Folic Acid (Vitamin B9),Vitamin B12 Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement,Vitamin E Supplement,Iron Amino Acid Chelate,Zinc Amino Acid Chelate,Copper Amino Acid Chelate,Manganese Amino Acid Chelate,Potassium Iodide,Choline Chloride,Calcium Carbonatetobacillus acidophilus fermentation product,Dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product,Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product

    And proteins and fats are broken down into glucose through gluconeogenesis.

    I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me, but yes, that is exactly why animals (including humans) on low carb diets do not get hypoglycemic. Our body creates its own glucose. And we can also enter the state of ketosis, where it no longer uses glucose as a fuel, and instead burns fat and ketones for energy.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    If I ever find myself at a point where I'm cutting out carrots for any reason beyond that they taste bad it's time to give up and just stay fat. Seriously.
  • TigerBite
    TigerBite Posts: 611 Member
    Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.

    Holy hell, it is scary that you are a vet tech. What do you think the primary ingredient in most cat food is? CORN. A carb, AKA sugar, a carb. Cat's are supposed to be on high protein diets. Sure Cat's get fat because of POOR DIET, and INACTIVITY. But you can bet that a cat on a grain free diet is going to be FAR healthier than a cat eating whatever comes from the cheapest shelf in a walmart pet aisle. You are not going to see an "Obese" cat on a grain free diet, that is for sure.

    Heres what most people feed their cats(Note "by-product", "corn, corn, rice, cellulose"):
    Chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, ground yellow corn, brewers rice, powdered cellulose, beef tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), turkey by-product, salmon meal, fish meal source of oceanfish flavor), brewers dried yeast, gelatin, soybean oil, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, alfalfa, gelatin, phosphoric acid, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, salt, choline chloride, taurine, l-lysine zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, l-alanine, dl-methionine, yellow 6, manganese sulfate, niacin, vitamin E supplement, yellow 5, copper sulfate, red 40, calcium pantothenate, blue 2, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, rosemary extract, pyridoxine hydrochloride, sodium selenite, vitamin B12 supplement, sodium selenite, folic acid, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity).

    Heres what is in what I feed my cat:
    Chicken,Chicken Broth,Water,Turkey,Chicken Liver,Egg Whites,Potato Starch,Natural Flavor,Sodium Phosphate,Dried Egg,Potassium Chloride,Carrageenan,Taurine,Salt,Vitamin A Supplement,Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1),Riboflavin(Vitamin B2),Niacin (Vitamin B3),d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5),
    Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6),Biotin (Vitamin B7),Folic Acid (Vitamin B9),Vitamin B12 Supplement,Vitamin D3 Supplement,Vitamin E Supplement,Iron Amino Acid Chelate,Zinc Amino Acid Chelate,Copper Amino Acid Chelate,Manganese Amino Acid Chelate,Potassium Iodide,Choline Chloride,Calcium Carbonatetobacillus acidophilus fermentation product,Dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product,Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product

    And proteins and fats are broken down into glucose through gluconeogenesis.

    I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me, but yes, that is exactly why animals (including humans) on low carb diets do not get hypoglycemic. Our body creates its own glucose. And we can also enter the state of ketosis, where it no longer uses glucose as a fuel, and instead burns fat and ketones for energy.


    Don't really know where this argument is going, nor do I care ... Just wanted to say: Humans are not cats ... Cats have different nutritional requirements than humans ... Just thought I'd point that out ...
  • Question. How do you think animals get diabetes? No one in their right mind would feed their animals tons of sugar- cats don't even taste sugar so they wouldn't be inclined to eat it anyway. (and DO NOT tell me it is added into their pet food. I'm a vet assistant and know that to be untrue.)

    Answer: Obesity and poor diet. So just to be clear not related to consuming sugar.



    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/18/sugar-in-pet-treats-and-pet-food-lead-to-obesity.aspx
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pets/msg0621425632348.html
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/?page=badingredients
    http://www.petobesityprevention.com/kibble-crack-–-vet-exposes-sugary-secret-of-pet-treats/

    Yeah ok. I'll take crappy pet websites information over the very expensive, extensive training I undertook.



    I understand that because of the STRONG BELIEFS on this subject that any proof is scoffed at and thrown out by the court of the very opinionated but let me assure you that this information is listed as the ingredients on the websites by the makers of these dog foods and dog treat products, and this was just a brief search. Or if you are still in doubt, you could go to your local pet food store and do some hands on research for yourself providing that would be good enough for the court of the very opinionated.

    http://www.beneful.com/Products/Dry-Dog-Food/Healthy-Smile/ (Sugar listed as 12th ingredient)
    http://kibblesnbits.com/Varieties/Original/#Ingredients (Corn Syrup aka Sugar listed as 6th ingredient)
    http://www.hillspet.com/products/sd-canine-fruity-snack-bananas-and-oatmeal-treats.html (Cane Molasses aka Sugar listed as 8th ingredient)
    http://www.hillspet.com/products/sd-canine-jerky-snacks-with-real-beef-treats.html (Dextrose aka Corn Sugar listed as 6th ingredient and Molasses aka Sugar listed as 10th ingredient)
    http://www.hillspet.com/products/sd-canine-jerky-snacks-with-real-chicken-treats.html (Same as above)

    "Yeah ok. I'll take crappy pet websites information over the very expensive, extensive training I undertook." Ahem......You might want to ask for a refund.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Ummm...what was the topic? Pet food?
  • iechick
    iechick Posts: 352 Member
    Ummm...what was the topic? Pet food?


    I'm always fascinated by the twists and turns that MFP threads take-it's better than reality tv :laugh:
  • Jay_Jay_
    Jay_Jay_ Posts: 194 Member
    Ummm...what was the topic? Pet food?

    This thread is now about pictures of our pets.

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