Thoughts on pepper spray?
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belly holster and a small .380 auto works well too
I use a tactical vest and simply wear a light zip jacket over it, only zip up halfway so I can quickly reach and pull my .380. Never had to use it, and hope I never have to, but hey, if it comes down to me or an attacker (human or animal) going down, here's a hint: it won't be me if I have anything to say about it :happy:0 -
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belly holster and a small .380 auto works well too
I use a tactical vest and simply wear a light zip jacket over it, only zip up halfway so I can quickly reach and pull my .380. Never had to use it, and hope I never have to, but hey, if it comes down to me or an attacker (human or animal) going down, here's a hint: it won't be me if I have anything to say about it :happy:
THIS. I carry a Ruger .380. 7 rounds, and I'm good to go. Was particularly thankful for this because I came in to contact with a large water moccasin a couple of weeks ago. On my long runs, I usually see coyotes and deer also, but I'm more concerned about people than animals.0 -
But ohnoez if the stains won't come out you might get prosecuted for destruction of private property.Carrying pepper spray is illegal here but I do have marker spray for cycling to and from work. Its not meant to disable the attacker but it stains clothes and skin so the police can easily identify the culprit. May be something else to consider.
:noway: Really? You can't defend yourself but you can mark your attacker so they can have stained clothes AFTER they rape/kill you?0 -
Plus you might get prosecuted for disturbing the peace. Then good luck landing a job with a noise violation on your record.Personal Safety Alarm with Cord
I'm not promoting this company, but the device in general. Noise is going to be your number one defense above all in an attack situation. Pull the string on this little bas*ard and it lets off an ear-piercing scream. It doesn’t hurt anyone, can't be used against you, can be heard for a mile, can’t be easily deactivated and makes the attacker want to get as far away as possible.
This is the best thing I can suggest for anyone who fears having their self-defense device being taken away and used against them. For people who are comfortable with pepper spray, OC, knife or handgun... this would be a great secondary.
I see the potential for a garrote in there.0 -
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Plus you might get prosecuted for disturbing the peace. Then good luck landing a job with a noise violation on your record.Personal Safety Alarm with Cord
I'm not promoting this company, but the device in general. Noise is going to be your number one defense above all in an attack situation. Pull the string on this little bas*ard and it lets off an ear-piercing scream. It doesn’t hurt anyone, can't be used against you, can be heard for a mile, can’t be easily deactivated and makes the attacker want to get as far away as possible.
This is the best thing I can suggest for anyone who fears having their self-defense device being taken away and used against them. For people who are comfortable with pepper spray, OC, knife or handgun... this would be a great secondary.
I see the potential for a garrote in there.0 -
I consider it a low calorie condiment so I don't log it.
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You should definitely be careful not to kill the guy trying to rape or murder you because...you know...that's bad.0
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Fear. The final frontier.
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Amazed that people run with guns. My mom always told me never to run with scissors.0
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If you can't get an escort from an apache with .50cal and FLIR, then have the area carpet bombed first, just to be sure.0
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I carry one. You can not prepare for every possible situation out there. I choose to have some sort of defense available to me. So it may help me or may not but I would rather have the option to use it if I can.0
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Personal Safety Alarm with Cord
I'm not promoting this company, but the device in general. Noise is going to be your number one defense above all in an attack situation. Pull the string on this little bas*ard and it lets off an ear-piercing scream. It doesn’t hurt anyone, can't be used against you, can be heard for a mile, can’t be easily deactivated and makes the attacker want to get as far away as possible.
This is the best thing I can suggest for anyone who fears having their self-defense device being taken away and used against them. For people who are comfortable with pepper spray, OC, knife or handgun... this would be a great secondary.
Where do you find this and what is it called? This is similar to a device I once had, and it worked well. Have not found one since.0 -
She is running toward the person she is spraying at??? This just doesnt make sense. Of course the wind can blow it in your face, but it wont come toward you on its own. Plus, mine squirts in a stream, not a fog. I dont think this is legit.0 -
Taurus PT 111 - Glad I have it and hope to never use it unless target shooting.0
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She is running toward the person she is spraying at??? This just doesnt make sense. Of course the wind can blow it in your face, but it wont come toward you on its own. Plus, mine squirts in a stream, not a fog. I dont think this is legit.
I am pretty sure it is an exaggeration, however, I have experienced a similar situation. That is - spraying the spray, then moving foward. It is in a stream but there will be a mist around it. You don't get the full effect but depending on the scenerio, it can still be quite unpleasant. Fortunately, it got him in the face and he suffered much worse than I did (I also think there was a bit of back spray when it hit him, happened so fast, I'm not sure).0 -
I carry when I run or bike where I live for potential attackers or mean dogs. Anything is better than being completely defenseless if you're ever in a dangerous situation.
As for your child, its like anything else (like a gun) you might have in your house...you have to take precautions to keep them from getting ahold of it.
edited to add...if you get some, take it outside and spray it..be sure you know how to aim it and use it if necessary.0 -
I would do self defense classes or even martial arts so that you feel safer when you are out in the world.0
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I would do self defense classes or even martial arts so that you feel safer when you are out in the world.
Agreed. And think of the cals you'd burn practising!0 -
this. pepper spray isn't automatic defense. you have to know how to handle yourself mentally if the situation arises where you'd have to use it and the best way to do that is by taking self defense courses.I would do self defense classes or even martial arts so that you feel safer when you are out in the world.
self defense will first and foremost teach you to be VOCAL during potential situations. yelling things like "GET AWAY FROM ME"or "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME" is usually good enough so you shouldnt have to use pepper spray as a threat or warning.0 -
I do live in a somewhat sketchy area and I carry pepper spray hooked on my dog leash and I have my CCW and carry a firearm. I think the three dogs are the best deterrent though. My reward for when I break 200lbs is going to be Krav Maga classes.0
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Take a self defense class. I used to teach women's street self defense and it was amazing.
A weapon can always be used against you. The most important weapons you have are your body parts (arms, fingers, teeth, knee, feet, etc!)0 -
I should have noted in the original post that I run as part of my commute to work so taking a dog or a gun (I work on federal property) aren't options for me. The inspiration for the post was three drunk frat boys cat calling me at 4:30am on this morning's run. I think the common thread is a self defense class, which seems like a necessity whether you run with a dog (or a horse!), spray, gun, or just your wits.0
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It's great that you are thinking about your safety when you are out running. The problem with pepper spray is that so much can go wrong with it: the wind changes, your attacker gets it away from you, etc. If you choose pepper spray, get some training with it so you can be effective and DON"T SHOW IT until you're ready to use it. Weapons are not to be used as threats.
That said, I teach that a flashlight is better- something like this: http://www.lapolicegear.com/511-53029-tmt-a1-flashlight.html?gclid=CK-h2YySzLoCFeo9QgodrVAAMg
I get a cheap version of this at the local sporting goods store (Big 5) for $4. You can beam him in the face and assertively ask him what he's doing, and that should make you unattractive enough to him to move on. Otherwise, you can hit him with the scalloped edge of the light after you beam him (beam him and brain him, lol). Then the police will have a nice pattern/scar/cut for them to look for when you report it.
Keep in mind that the priority for all attackers is that he doesn't want to get caught, and he doesn't want a fight. With this in mind, run in populated and well-lit places as much as you can. Feel free to msg me if you have any questions, or see my website at http://www.empoweredfsd.com
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From what I use to see when they used it on dog the bounty hunter, anyone in a vicinity gets effected.0
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Self defense classes are highly recommended for everyone, if only because you need confidence and most of all, awareness in any dangerous situation. A lot of the time, being aggressive and loud will be enough to make an attacker consider you too much trouble.
I recommend sticks - try to find a class that will teach you how to effectively use sticks from walking stick-sized ones to pen sized ones. You can easily walk with a walking stick in hand and a simple piece of 6" dowel can be a devastating close-quarter weapon that can be carried comfortably in the hand when running, if you know you are going into a dodgy area.0 -
i asked a friend about this (he is a cop) and he said don't carry pepper spray. it never works out that it is effectively used.
i got a really loud whistle instead. it goes right on the house keys - which will go with me if i drive or walk. i use a carabiner and keep it clipped to the front strap of my sports bra (near my shoulder). it would be easy and ready to use if needed!!
just look for sport whistles - they are about $5 online.0 -
I always carry pepper spray with me when I run. For human and dog attackers! I have young kids too, and I just keep it high up. The only thing I will say is I actually thought I would need to use it once, however it was extremely windy, and I was down wind. That would not have worked out well! I happened to be on a bike ride, rather than a run, so I was able to hop on my bike and ride away like the wind. Anyway. ..my point is that I have put a lot of faith in my pepper spray, and it wouldn't have done me a bit of good in that situation.
Something else to consider is one of those small stun guns, although I know they are illegal in many areas, and you would probably need some kind of zipper pocket to keep in in, making it difficult to access anyway.0 -
I should have noted in the original post that I run as part of my commute to work so taking a dog or a gun (I work on federal property) aren't options for me. The inspiration for the post was three drunk frat boys cat calling me at 4:30am on this morning's run. I think the common thread is a self defense class, which seems like a necessity whether you run with a dog (or a horse!), spray, gun, or just your wits.
You would use a pepper spray for street harassment? I'd run out of pepper spray - I get cat called/harassed almost every day.
I don't actually think that in the eyes of the law, pepper spray is an appropriate response to cat calling.0 -
I should have noted in the original post that I run as part of my commute to work so taking a dog or a gun (I work on federal property) aren't options for me.
Really? I work for the state and I have co-workers who open carry. Of course, this is Utah...0
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