Pastry Chef: Immoral and Unethical?

I would go through her baking supplies and replace her sugar with crystal meth.
Then patiently wait for her to get fired.

And if she doesn't get fired, well, at least meth makes people skinny.

Um, not sure why you feel disdain with such a holier-than-thou complex, but I believe you're wrong by being upset at this person's career choice. I mean, you're upset that they are "contributing" to obesity? Seriously?

Wow.

First, education is powerful. Education, not fat shaming, is what will help curb obesity. Second, people need to grow up and stop blaming others for their inadequacies and shortcomings. I used to be an emotional eater. I don't blame my own psychological problems or emotional instability on food, let alone those who prepare it.

By your logic, that person is knowingly committing fraud or some kind of criminal offence. What if your friend wants to pursue a career path as a bartender? Oh, noes! That person is contributing to alcoholism! How about bankers? They circulate money. Oh, oh. They contribute to gambling. See my point?

Unlike other addictions, food is a necessary part of life. Cigarettes are not. Alcohol is not. You can choose to smoke, drink, or not. But you can't "choose" to eat. You can only choose what to eat.

I respectfully believe that your position is ludicrous, presumptuous, misguided, and rude. You can talk to your friend about alternatives. Even then, I think it's still wrong. Heck, I know many a gourmet chefs, even pastry chefs, who are health-conscious and often cook healthy versions of popular pastries. But should they get trampled on, too?

I'm a foodie and I love food. And I have cheat days and cheat meals, and yes I enjoy pastries and doughnuts. So if I become obese, should I sue the pastry chef that "contributed to my obesity"? But you see, that's what a message like yours implies.

C'mon, folks. Educate, don't denigrate.

P.S.: No, you shouldn't go to that party for your friend. Trust me, you're doing them a favor.

I would go through her baking supplies and replace her sugar with crystal meth.
Then patiently wait for her to get fired.

And if she doesn't get fired, well, at least meth makes people skinny.

i am literally LOL'ing right now !!!

Um, not sure why you feel disdain with such a holier-than-thou complex, but I believe you're wrong by being upset at this person's career choice. I mean, you're upset that they are "contributing" to obesity? Seriously?

Wow.

First, education is powerful. Education, not fat shaming, is what will help curb obesity. Second, people need to grow up and stop blaming others for their inadequacies and shortcomings. I used to be an emotional eater. I don't blame my own psychological problems or emotional instability on food, let alone those who prepare it.

By your logic, that person is knowingly committing fraud or some kind of criminal offence. What if your friend wants to pursue a career path as a bartender? Oh, noes! That person is contributing to alcoholism! How about bankers? They circulate money. Oh, oh. They contribute to gambling. See my point?

Unlike other addictions, food is a necessary part of life. Cigarettes are not. Alcohol is not. You can choose to smoke, drink, or not. But you can't "choose" to eat. You can only choose what to eat.

I respectfully believe that your position is ludicrous, presumptuous, misguided, and rude. You can talk to your friend about alternatives. Even then, I think it's still wrong. Heck, I know many a gourmet chefs, even pastry chefs, who are health-conscious and often cook healthy versions of popular pastries. But should they get trampled on, too?

I'm a foodie and I love food. And I have cheat days and cheat meals, and yes I enjoy pastries and doughnuts. So if I become obese, should I sue the pastry chef that "contributed to my obesity"? But you see, that's what a message like yours implies.

C'mon, folks. Educate, don't denigrate.

P.S.: No, you shouldn't go to that party for your friend. Trust me, you're doing them a favor.

I see your education and raise you Satire.

I would go and be supportive of your friend but bring a veggie tray with low fat yogurt dip so that there will be healthy options. You should NEVER eat pastries if you're trying to lose weight. I feel sorry for the po' uneducated pastry eaters that are going to get the diabeetus

clearly my weightloss gurney has been a lot more fun than yours.

OP - I had pastries with my Starbucks today. Come at me bro.

She won't be in a factory mass producing the rubbish that gets churned out for supermarkets, even if she was, she is not the problem, the food industry is!
Some might say its an art. I would have a taste of her samples!!
Wish her well. It might lead to bigger better things for her!
If she bought a vineyard would she be contributing to alcoholism..?!

She won't be in a factory mass producing the rubbish that gets churned out for supermarkets, even if she was, she is not the problem, the food industry is!
Some might say its an art. I would have a taste of her samples!!
Wish her well. It might lead to bigger better things for her!
If she bought a vineyard would she be contributing to alcoholism..?!

Yeah! It's not my fault! It's the food industry's fault!

See, Ry?

Now stop this. I'm willing to forgive you and you can still come to the party.

I think that your point of view is extreme. That's what I think.

Here is the situation I’m currently facing and I don’t know what to do.

So I have a friend who announced that she was moving into a new profession. SHE IS BECOMING A GOURMET PASTRY CHEF!

So everyone is congratulating her on this big step in her life and all I can think is…WHY!? So she will be preparing pastries and directly contributing to the obesity epidemic in America. What’s next, should I congratulate the Marlboro man on the new gourmet cigarette brand he is coming out with? I just think it’s wrong for someone to knowingly provide sugar laden treats to others knowing the harm it causes. And even worse, these are gourmet treats which people are likely to eat even more of!

I don’t know. If it were me, I don’t think I would be able to live with myself if I knew I would be harming people like this long term. They are throwing her a going away party in a few weeks and she is going to be providing a sampling of her work for us. I’m still undecided if I should attend with these concerns. I’m not sure what kind of message that will be sending ya know?

What you guys think? Am I right? Or should I ease up, be happy for my friend and go to the party even if I feel like I’m compromising on my morals and ethics?

I have just about heard it all now.

Just say goodbye to your friend, wish them all the best and then crack on with your own morals.

Morals over pastry???? I can think of a sight worse things than sweets and pastry believe me. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'd be bothered much more if she was going to work for Little Debbie snack cakes figuring out more ways to create cheap chemical desserts that people eat by the dozen.

Just sayin'

Mmmm, chemical desserts...

My dad eats pastries cakes and pies all the time. He LOVES desert. He always has. He doesn't have any health issues.

He's also 64 years old, in great physical shape (13% body fat) and runs at least 13k per day (uphill).

He just recently ran a half-marathon and finished 1st place for his age category. (he ran 21k in 1 hr 42 min) He's training to run a full marathon soon too.

I don't think pastries or his love of desserts are hurting him. He seems to be doing just fine to me.

Now if people overeat treats and don't do enough physical activity to burn it off... that's hardly the fault of the pastry chef. That's like blaming spoon manufacturers for causing people to eat too much ice cream.

My dad would be sad if all the pastry chefs suddenly quit their jobs. Why should he be deprived of pastries just because some people don't know their own limits or how to take care of their own bodies? Nobody is forcing people to buy pastries.... or eat them.

There is nothing immoral about being a pastry chef.

Maybe instead of focusing on the negatives of pastry, focus on the positive side... like the joy and pleasure and enjoyment people experience when eating a well-crafted treat. Enjoying life's simple pleasures responsibly does not mean the same thing as overindulging.