Pastry Chef: Immoral and Unethical?

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  • mumblemagic
    mumblemagic Posts: 1,090 Member
    I just think it’s wrong for someone to knowingly provide sugar laden treats to others knowing the harm it causes.

    Grow up, geeeez.

    Pastries and sugar are not evil. They are beautiful creations to be enjoyed sometimes. A friend of yours is doing something cool with their life and all you can do is demonize them and the tasty art they create? If your friend was strapping diabetics down in chairs and shooting them up with sugar, then I might agree that it's unethical. But you're stretching this way too far. Learn to appreciate good things.
    See, isn't that pretty much what Ry is doing by posting this thread about delicious, sugary, melt-in-your-mouth pastries? On a calorie-counting Web site, of all places? He should be ashamed of himself.

    I agree. On a website full of food adicts, mentioning sticky yummy foods is like mentioning heroin to a junkie.
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    I ate a salted caramel cupcake today.

    It looked like this:

    chocolate-cupcakes-salted-caramel-frosting-426x640.jpg

    Thanks, OP. YOU DID THIS!!!

    I think I gained 5 pounds after looking at this. Thanks
    And what did you do? You went right along and spread the problem. Now we have a full-fledged epidemic. Way to go.
    ETA: Oops.
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    I read all nine pages of this thread... Couldn't stop thinking about delicious, mouth-watering, succulent gourmet pastries... Binged on about 4,000 calories' worth of Pop-Tarts and other evil sugary wages of sin. Now I'm gonna gain 10 pounds overnight.

    Ryry, you sick *kitten*. This is all your fault.

    It seems like you are joking...but this is kind of my point. Nobody goes into a pastry shop and eats half a pastry when they are addicted. They typically lose control and binge. What is wrong with thinking that preventing that is a good idea?
    I am every bit as serious as you are. Way to sabotage the entire MFP community, man.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I ate a salted caramel cupcake today.

    It looked like this:

    chocolate-cupcakes-salted-caramel-frosting-426x640.jpg

    Thanks, OP. YOU DID THIS!!!

    I think I gained 5 pounds after looking at this. Thanks
    And what did you do? You went right along and spread the problem. Now we have a full-fledged epidemic. Way to go.
    ETA: Oops.

    Because I am evil, I am replying again and including the photo of the amazing and delicious salted caramel cupcake.
    I'm pleased to see that my diabolical plot is working!
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    I ate a salted caramel cupcake today.

    It looked like this:

    chocolate-cupcakes-salted-caramel-frosting-426x640.jpg

    Thanks, OP. YOU DID THIS!!!

    I think I gained 5 pounds after looking at this. Thanks
    And what did you do? You went right along and spread the problem. Now we have a full-fledged epidemic. Way to go.
    ETA: Oops.

    Because I am evil, I am replying again and including the photo of the amazing and delicious salted caramel cupcake.
    I'm pleased to see that my diabolical plot is working!
    Well. Someone is clearly not here for the same reason as the rest of us!
  • piratesluver
    piratesluver Posts: 105 Member
    This is exactly why I got out of the business (I'm a professionally trained pastry chef, now working at a nonprofit)! As much as I love seeing the look on someone's face when they eat my creation, I couldn't get over the fact that I was contributing to society's obesity epidemic.

    I still make birthday/baby shower treats out of my home, but that's as far as I'll go.
    So people getting older or having babies are allowed to get fat and that doesn't bother you? You hate old pepole and mothers, then. I see.
    Doesn't everyone hate old people and mothers?

    Ah yes... The true meaning of family ;)
  • MrsK20141004
    MrsK20141004 Posts: 489 Member
    In.
  • fivethreeone
    fivethreeone Posts: 8,196 Member
    Doing my part to contribute to the roll.

    OP, keep on fighting the good fight.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    This is exactly why I got out of the business (I'm a professionally trained pastry chef, now working at a nonprofit)! As much as I love seeing the look on someone's face when they eat my creation, I couldn't get over the fact that I was contributing to society's obesity epidemic.

    I still make birthday/baby shower treats out of my home, but that's as far as I'll go.
    So people getting older or having babies are allowed to get fat and that doesn't bother you? You hate old pepole and mothers, then. I see.
    Doesn't everyone hate old people and mothers?
    If we were friends, this is where I'd make a mom joke.
  • krazeedr
    krazeedr Posts: 35 Member
    Best thread ever. You sir win the internet.
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    Wow…I am still shocked my topic got this much attention. Quite frankly, I can’t say I’m surprised that the derisive and haughty comments have not abated but only seemingly intensified. Understanding the culture of this place will forever remain elusive to me it seems.

    To the many who PM’d me their words of support, I thank you. I understand now your hesitancy to place those comments publicly.

    To those who chose to save the most lethal of your arrows for PM’s, dipped in poison and ready to strike, well you have received your due reward.

    I’m not sure if I will go, not sure if it even matters anymore. For those interested I might update on what happens. I’ll just leave these words to remember as we back into the future. Hopefully a little wiser and more understanding.

    “One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    Wow…I am still shocked my topic got this much attention. Quite frankly, I can’t say I’m surprised that the derisive and haughty comments have not abated but only seemingly intensified. Understanding the culture of this place will forever remain elusive to me it seems.

    To the many who PM’d me their words of support, I thank you. I understand now your hesitancy to place those comments publicly.

    To those who chose to save the most lethal of your arrows for PM’s, dipped in poison and ready to strike, well you have received your due reward.

    I’m not sure if I will go, not sure if it even matters anymore. For those interested I might update on what happens. I’ll just leave these words to remember as we back into the future. Hopefully a little wiser and more understanding.

    “One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”

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  • lolathompson
    lolathompson Posts: 70 Member
    Be nice. Go. Nuff said.
  • mamadon
    mamadon Posts: 1,422 Member
    This is the post that never ends,
    It just goes on and on my friends,
    Some people started commenting not knowing what it was,
    And they'll continue commenting forever just because, this is the post that never ends,
    It just goes on and on my friends..............
  • tifferz_91
    tifferz_91 Posts: 282 Member
    Look, i personally eat organic non-gmo foods 99% of the time.

    The 1% of the time i DO actually eat what i truly crave or want. With no regrets.

    This is why alot of us here eat in moderation. So we don't deprive ourselves.



    You make it seem like her customers are going to eat her pastries all day, everyday, 24/7.

    It's not HER fault that she is going to enjoy & get paid for doing what she loves.

    She is not forcing nor making ANYONE stuff their faces with whatever food THEY personally choose.



    You don't have to agree or even support with what your friend will be doing, but if it really bothers you that much sir, then you should probably do what i do & just worry about what goes in YOUR mouth & YOUR health instead. Simple.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,454 Member
    Thank you for the excellent emphasis details. Impressive use of bracketing.
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    Look, i personally eat organic non-gmo foods 99% of the time.

    The 1% of the time i DO actually eat what i truly crave or want. With no regrets.

    This is why alot of us here eat in moderation. So we don't deprive ourselves.



    You make it seem like her customers are going to eat her pastries all day, everyday, 24/7.

    It's not HER fault that she is going to enjoy & get paid for doing what she loves.

    She is not forcing nor making ANYONE stuff their faces with whatever food THEY personally choose.



    You don't have to agree or even support with what your friend will be doing, but if it really bothers you that much sir, then you should probably do what i do & just worry about what goes in YOUR mouth & YOUR health instead. Simple.
    so are we supposed to yell those bolded and underlined words if we read out loud?
  • Mother_Superior
    Mother_Superior Posts: 1,624 Member
    Look, i personally eat organic non-gmo foods 99% of the time.

    The 1% of the time i DO actually eat what i truly crave or want. With no regrets.

    This is why alot of us here eat in moderation. So we don't deprive ourselves.



    You make it seem like her customers are going to eat her pastries all day, everyday, 24/7.

    It's not HER fault that she is going to enjoy & get paid for doing what she loves.

    She is not forcing nor making ANYONE stuff their faces with whatever food THEY personally choose.



    You don't have to agree or even support with what your friend will be doing, but if it really bothers you that much sir, then you should probably do what i do & just worry about what goes in YOUR mouth & YOUR health instead. Simple.
    so are we supposed to yell those bolded and underlined words if we read out loud?

    It's what I did. Since then things have been weird between my in-laws and I.
  • DrunkenFaeGirl
    DrunkenFaeGirl Posts: 107
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    ^^^^ I was looking for a "J/K" at the end of the post.
  • dawnna76
    dawnna76 Posts: 987 Member
    What's her name I will welcome her to the dark side with open arms and we will laugh a evil laugh as we get rich making America fat!


    Muahahaha
  • bombedpop
    bombedpop Posts: 2,235 Member
    Here is the situation I’m currently facing and I don’t know what to do.

    So I have a friend who announced that she was moving into a new profession. SHE IS BECOMING A GOURMET PASTRY CHEF!

    So everyone is congratulating her on this big step in her life and all I can think is…WHY!? So she will be preparing pastries and directly contributing to the obesity epidemic in America. What’s next, should I congratulate the Marlboro man on the new gourmet cigarette brand he is coming out with? I just think it’s wrong for someone to knowingly provide sugar laden treats to others knowing the harm it causes. And even worse, these are gourmet treats which people are likely to eat even more of!

    I don’t know. If it were me, I don’t think I would be able to live with myself if I knew I would be harming people like this long term. They are throwing her a going away party in a few weeks and she is going to be providing a sampling of her work for us. I’m still undecided if I should attend with these concerns. I’m not sure what kind of message that will be sending ya know?

    What you guys think? Am I right? Or should I ease up, be happy for my friend and go to the party even if I feel like I’m compromising on my morals and ethics?

    Um, you do know that pastry is an art, a scientific art. I assume you are sarcasming for fun. If not:
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    I don't have the patience to read the thread and responses.
  • bombedpop
    bombedpop Posts: 2,235 Member
    This is exactly why I got out of the business (I'm a professionally trained pastry chef, now working at a nonprofit)! As much as I love seeing the look on someone's face when they eat my creation, I couldn't get over the fact that I was contributing to society's obesity epidemic.

    I still make birthday/baby shower treats out of my home, but that's as far as I'll go.

    that is not a good reason.

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    why did I scroll back to read more? Ugh...
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  • CarmenDsewell
    CarmenDsewell Posts: 24
    Firstly, be happy for your friend and congratulate her. Secondly, your friend is going to better herself by going to school. And as to the providing sugary treats to others, she will NOT be doing that because she won't be forcing the stuff down people's throats....everybody is responsible for what goes into their own mouths. :frown:
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    This is the post that never ends,
    It just goes on and on my friends,
    Some people started commenting not knowing what it was,
    And they'll continue commenting forever just because, this is the post that never ends,
    It just goes on and on my friends..............

    LOL is lamb chop even on anymore?
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    When I pause to consider how many members joined MFP because they are obese, I am not surprised that most of them are against banning pastries. Even if they lose weight, they are still obese in their hearts.
  • lisabinco
    lisabinco Posts: 1,016 Member
    Wow…I am still shocked my topic got this much attention. Quite frankly, I can’t say I’m surprised that the derisive and haughty comments have not abated but only seemingly intensified. Understanding the culture of this place will forever remain elusive to me it seems.

    To the many who PM’d me their words of support, I thank you. I understand now your hesitancy to place those comments publicly.

    To those who chose to save the most lethal of your arrows for PM’s, dipped in poison and ready to strike, well you have received your due reward.

    I’m not sure if I will go, not sure if it even matters anymore. For those interested I might update on what happens. I’ll just leave these words to remember as we back into the future. Hopefully a little wiser and more understanding.

    “One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
    Well said. Do what feels right for you.
  • roosterfish81
    roosterfish81 Posts: 13 Member
    Self righteous as I think your post is, if you were really losing sleep over the obesity epidemic, then you'd be going after fast and processed food corporations who spend stupid millions of money working out how to get us to eat more instead of an independent little pastry chef on the smallest scale possible.
    Pick your battles man.
  • skrewloose76
    skrewloose76 Posts: 1
    I just sat up and read all of the comments.And the 1st thing i noticed was if you spent half as much time trying to concentrate on hitting your goals as you do worrying about your friends occupation you would be in a better place and state of mind. Take the energy and focus that you're investing in your friend's profession and reinvest it on trying to hit your goals on an hourly/daily/weekly/monthly/yearly basis. Moderation will be your new friend. And after you've hit your goals set new goals. Make yourself accountable to your reflection in the mirror, Not your friend and his/her profession.
  • StormyGal8
    StormyGal8 Posts: 184 Member
    If people can't use moderation to enjoy treats, how is that her fault? There are vast number of people who know how to enjoy a pastry. A pastry...as in 1. Why does it make your friend wrong for wanting to do something she loves, simply because some people can't (or won't, which is me) control themselves with sweets. No one in the world should be able to have a treat ever because some people get fat? Really?
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    I wonder if the pastry chef friend will make a roll?

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