What Are These 'so called' Parents Doing!!
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I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
Be helpful and post those here. Within a 40 miles radius of my house, we have a Dollar General, Family Dollar and a locally owned store that gets weeks old produce that is essentially cast off from other stores. GO!
Arguing on the internet is pissing into the wind.
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Well,Your little snarks about my apparent "moral superiority" are becoming quite Boring.
And why do you think that happens?hmmMy parents never let me eat crap like that.
And I don't think it's right to let them either.
This is why we have an obesity problem,because people get mad if you judge them on how unhealthy their diet is...and it is unhealthy.Since when are goldfish nutritionally sound?!
We have an obesity problem because people consume more calories than they burn. The reason for this is multifaceted and complex, encompassing access to excess and lack of access to quality. A myriad of psychological and socioecomonic factors are at play. Your analysis is painfully short sighted and naive.
The healthfulness of one's diet doesn't the person more or less morally superior.
Because the food we are consuming today is physically and genetically different then the food grown in my grandparents day.
It is true that we have an overwhelming surplus of choices when it comes to what we eat,but there is no viable reason for us to choose artificially and nutrient deficient items marketed to us from companies who,at the end of the day could care less about our health & well being.
As to being morally superior,
If you know the difference but still choose the opposition ,your actions speak for themselves.
Really?
Are you aware that there is a significant portion of the population does not have access to fresh produce by virtue of where they were born and their parents' socioeconomic status? A lot of people do not have the choices that you have with regard to food -- you have a vast amount of unchecked privileged that is true(truly) sickening. In addition, disordered eating affects people in a host of ways from under eating, to over eating, to extreme aversion.
Your argument about moral superiority is painfully embarrassing.
Firstly,I am undoubtably aware of those who are in a position where nothing is available to them.
Which is the reason I believe we need to help them.
And I am not anywhere close to being privileged in that regard.If anything I'm just an average citizen.
Secondly you are making a post with no relation to the current thread whatsoever...
I am personally a victim of disordered eating(EDNOS)recovered,so do not DARE to bring anything of that nature into your argument.
None of which has anything to do with the lunches these children are receiving..
Wait, am to understand that I can't talk about people making poor food choices because they might actually have an eating disorder because you have an eating disorder in the past? My point is how people eat do not make them more or less morally superior because there are issues surrounding what we eat that we do not control.
And my point is, how are you defining "average" citizen? You are talking about processed food and GMOs because terrible, which means you must not eat those things and have access to other foods--- but those things are all some people have available to them. Also, I haven't been off topic once. Or attacked YOU personally. Everyone is privileged about something. The important thing to realize what those issues may be so you aren't unfairly judging other people.
This particular engagement is even better than then what the OP had to say! To your corners, ladies!0 -
What ever gold fish fhucking rules. Why don't you work on your lesson planning and not worry about those kids snacks.0
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I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:0 -
You can buy healthy food at any supermarket,it doesn't have to be specific.
Changing your post eh?
And why do you think that happens?hmmMy parents never let me eat crap like that.
And I don't think it's right to let them either.
This is why we have an obesity problem,because people get mad if you judge them on how unhealthy their diet is...and it is unhealthy.Since when are goldfish nutritionally sound?!
We have an obesity problem because people consume more calories than they burn. The reason for this is multifaceted and complex, encompassing access to excess and lack of access to quality. A myriad of psychological and socioecomonic factors are at play. Your analysis is painfully short sighted and naive.
The healthfulness of one's diet doesn't the person more or less morally superior.
Because the food we are consuming today is physically and genetically different then the food grown in my grandparents day.
It is true that we have an overwhelming surplus of choices when it comes to what we eat,but there is no viable reason for us to choose artificially and nutrient deficient items marketed to us from companies who,at the end of the day could care less about our health & well being.
As to being morally superior,
If you know the difference but still choose the opposition ,your actions speak for themselves.
Really?
Are you aware that there is a significant portion of the population does not have access to fresh produce by virtue of where they were born and their parents' socioeconomic status? A lot of people do not have the choices that you have with regard to food -- that is called unchecked privilege. In addition, disordered eating affects people in a host of ways from under eating, to over eating, to extreme aversion. None of that has to do with GMO or marketing.
Your argument about moral superiority is painfully embarrassing.
LMAO
I changed it to reflect what I was actually trying to say at that moment and did -- I did that well after you quoted it. I don't see what the problem with that would be, since I responded to you with the original language. You really don't seem to understand that the vast majority of people don't have access to Trader Joe's or Whole Food either by geographic location or financial situation, so I completely stand by what I said here and will happily change it back since you so gloriously went one to prove my point.
*And just a thought*
Maybe you should be less judgmental of the OP's single spelling mistake,seeing as most of you have had to modify your posts a few times.
So what if I modify anything to fix errors or how how I wrote something? I never change what I am actually saying. Or denying I said it.
And there are at least 5 errors in her topic sentence alone. 6 if you want to be picky about how to use quotes. It's easy to judge other people on minor issues -- which is what OP is doing. If she doesn't want it back -- well, maybe she shouldn't do it. You can pick apart any grammatical mistakes I make -- doesn't make you point any more logical.0 -
You can buy healthy food at any supermarket,it doesn't have to be specific.
Changing your post eh?
And why do you think that happens?hmmMy parents never let me eat crap like that.
And I don't think it's right to let them either.
This is why we have an obesity problem,because people get mad if you judge them on how unhealthy their diet is...and it is unhealthy.Since when are goldfish nutritionally sound?!
We have an obesity problem because people consume more calories than they burn. The reason for this is multifaceted and complex, encompassing access to excess and lack of access to quality. A myriad of psychological and socioecomonic factors are at play. Your analysis is painfully short sighted and naive.
The healthfulness of one's diet doesn't the person more or less morally superior.
Because the food we are consuming today is physically and genetically different then the food grown in my grandparents day.
It is true that we have an overwhelming surplus of choices when it comes to what we eat,but there is no viable reason for us to choose artificially and nutrient deficient items marketed to us from companies who,at the end of the day could care less about our health & well being.
As to being morally superior,
If you know the difference but still choose the opposition ,your actions speak for themselves.
Really?
Are you aware that there is a significant portion of the population does not have access to fresh produce by virtue of where they were born and their parents' socioeconomic status? A lot of people do not have the choices that you have with regard to food -- that is called unchecked privilege. In addition, disordered eating affects people in a host of ways from under eating, to over eating, to extreme aversion. None of that has to do with GMO or marketing.
Your argument about moral superiority is painfully embarrassing.
LMAO
I changed it to reflect what I was actually trying to say at that moment and did -- I did that well after you quoted it. I don't see what the problem with that would be, since I responded to you with the original language. You really don't seem to understand that the vast majority of people don't have access to Trader Joe's or Whole Food either by geographic location or financial situation, so I completely stand by what I said here and will happily change it back since you so gloriously went one to prove my point.
*And just a thought*
Maybe you should be less judgmental of the OP's single spelling mistake,seeing as most of you have had to modify your posts a few times.
So what if I modify anything to fix errors or how how I wrote something? I never change what I am actually saying. Or denying I said it.
And there are at least 5 errors in her topic sentence alone. 6 if you want to be picky about how to use quotes. It's easy to judge other people on minor issues -- which is what OP is doing. If she doesn't want it back -- well, maybe she shouldn't do it. You can pick apart any grammatical mistakes I make -- doesn't make you point any more logical.
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Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.I pack my sons lunch everyday because I will not allow him to eat the school lunch that is filled with crap ingredients, he has a dairy allergy and I don't allow high fructose corn syrup in his diet so it's kind of difficult for him to drink anything beside water when the only choices are Juice which is laden with high fructose corn syrup or milk/ chocolate milk. He is 15 and in 10th grade and it would be a lot easier if there was a place to keep food cold until he needs to eat it or if he was offered multiple times in the day to get a little snack in. it's hard to send healthy items with your kid when you know that it may spoil by the time they actually get to eat it and if not they're eating lunch at 10:15 in the morning and then expected to pay attention in school until 3. Maybe the school should step up to the plate and start making it more convenient for parents to pack healthy items for the kids or offer healthy choices themselves. ... get the soda, juice, chips and candy machines out of the schools!
I do agree that there are better choices these parents could be making other than oreos and rice krispies treats but let's face it how many granola bars can you find that aren't mostly sugar that taste good enough for a first grader to eat? honestly it is a little difficult to find healthy items that taste good enough for your child to eat that are in disposable lunch size or snack size portions and don't need to be refrigerated... especially if you're on a budget .... I don't care how much almond butter you put on them warm celery sticks are not very tasty!! I can't tell you how many tupperware containers I've lost over the years because my kids forgot to bring them home or accidentally throw them in the garbage.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
yes I know...like I said I've been packing my kids lunches and snacks ....for over 20 years now (my son is my youngest) I find it easier and cheaper to make my own stuff for them. ..my kids won't eat the healthy granola bars that taste like cardboard. why didn't you address the " maybe schools need to step up to the plate" comment? Isn't passing judgement on someone when you haven't walked in their shoes a form of bullying? You don't know what these kids eat the other 90 percent of the day that you're not with them..... you don't know how their life is at home.... you don't know what their parents are going through financially everybody knows junk food is cheap... you have no clue and you have no right to pass judgement just based on school snacks for lunches this whole post is nothing but a waste of time because you're not doing anything to help educate parents if that's what you're really concerned about.0 -
Says the women who judges intelligence on age.:laugh: :drinker:
I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:0 -
Says the women who judges intelligence on age.:laugh: :drinker:
I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:
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No judgement though... carry on. :flowerforyou:0 -
Says the women who judges intelligence on age.:laugh: :drinker:
I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:
ahh...'ad hominem'.
I know it well.0 -
I'm guessing you're not a parent. It's always the non-parents that seem to know how to do it all right and feel quite free letting the world know exactly which way that is.
I don't see candy. I see cookies, crackers and fruit. It's a snack, not a nutrition exam.
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I'm guessing you're not a parent. It's always the non-parents that seem to know how to do it all right and feel quite free letting the world know exactly which way that is.
I don't see candy. I see cookies, crackers and fruit. It's a snack, not a nutrition exam.
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lazy parents0
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Well then,if you have a better idea...
Says the women who judges intelligence on age.:laugh: :drinker:
I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:
Woman- Singular
Women- Plural
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No judgement though... carry on. :flowerforyou:
Please,share your "wisdom":noway:0 -
I'm guessing you're not a parent. It's always the non-parents that seem to know how to do it all right and feel quite free letting the world know exactly which way that is.
I don't see candy. I see cookies, crackers and fruit. It's a snack, not a nutrition exam.
YES
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Well then,if you have a better idea...
Says the women who judges intelligence on age.:laugh: :drinker:
I've never been so idk, but there are threads about what to buy there.Trader joes & whole foods have a great selection of healthier granola bars.
They're mostly priced the same as well.
The nearest trader joes is 113 miles from where I live. The nearest whole foods is 137 miles. I believe someone tried to explain to you that not every one has healthier choices readily available to them. What can I get at a WAWA?
You don't seem to know much. :flowerforyou:
Woman- Singular
Women- Plural
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No judgement though... carry on. :flowerforyou:
Please,share your "wisdom":noway:
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Have you seen the crap the school thinks my child should eat. Uh, I'll send the goldfish, thanks. FYI tomorrow is chicken nugget and FF day lmao.0
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Maybe you should get back to teaching vs judging...
I am sure as a teacher and someone who was sent to enlighten us, you are familiar with the food pyramid. And a balanced diet contains 0-3 servings of fats/snacks/oils. Are you going home with the kids to ensure that they are eating bowls of fruits and veggies and going to bed on time... no keep your eyes on your own plate. Maybe you have the parents text you photos of their nightly meals and snacks so you and you alone can decide their worth as parents.
i suppose you would rather they eat a nice "healthy" school lunch hat would be better right.
go back to your bridge.0 -
Crap, I should say - Have you seen the crap the government thinks my kid should have for lunch? I sometimes send *gasp* a fruit roll up. That's what I get for being a so called parent.... wait... :huh:0
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FIRST-the teacher is obviously concerned about the students AND education and not just the education of her students. She has not pinpointed anyone in her class, just putting it out there that our society could use more information on nutrition. After all there is an obesity epidemic going on, regardless of anecdotes of finicky eaters and the wonderful foods some parents prepare for their kids.
next, I'm wondering how many calories a first grader needs per day. (one site says about 1700 cals per day) the pic with the tangerines, plugged into mfp, is about 1000 calories, excluding the caramel thing in the middle I couldn't read. does that leave enough calories for healthy vegetables and meats at breakfast and dinner and evening?
Third, thin-skinned parental reactions seem to be a huge part of what is wrong with education today. Teachers truly have students' best interests in mind and can not operate effectively if parents are against them. Honestly! It makes me wonder how many of the people itching to punch out a teacher ignore the school's cell phone policy and text or call their child at any time of the day.0 -
I'm "one of those parents", apparently.
My child is 2 and in nursery school. He gets one snack during his short time there, and I usually pack crackers or pretzels (or cheerios the other day because he didn't eat breakfast). I also put sugary fruit juice in his thermos. *shudders*
However:
1) At home he eats a lot of fruits (apples and bananas are his favorite), cheeses, and normal food. He eats mac n cheese once(?) maybe a week. He eats veggies. His breakfast will sometimes be an egg, sometimes cream of wheat, sometimes non-sugary cereal with milk. Otherwise he eats whatever we eat.
2) The only times he gets juice is during his snack at school (and it's the fruit/veggie juice). All other times, he drinks white milk (he's never had chocolate milk, and I'm not going to start if he's content with regular milk).
3) But yes, I pack processed foods for his snack. Because a) it's a treat b) it's not messy for other teachers and c) it takes him time to chew those foods and not be done within 30 seconds (as opposed to a cheese stick).
Is he a perfect healthy eater? No, but he does pretty well for a toddler imo. Would I be absolutely livid if his teacher posted pics on the internet and judged me as a parent and not knowing the full story? Oh yeah, I'd be talking to the principal on that one.0 -
Maybe you should get back to teaching vs judging...
I am sure as a teacher and someone who was sent to enlighten us, you are familiar with the food pyramid. And a balanced diet contains 0-3 servings of fats/snacks/oils. Are you going home with the kids to ensure that they are eating bowls of fruits and veggies and going to bed on time... no keep your eyes on your own plate. Maybe you have the parents text you photos of their nightly meals and snacks so you and you alone can decide their worth as parents.
i suppose you would rather they eat a nice "healthy" school lunch that would be better right.
go back to your bridge.
Photobucket sux. Try tinypic.com. That way maybe your photo will show up. :flowerforyou:0 -
FIRST-the teacher is obviously concerned about the students AND education and not just the education of her students. She has not pinpointed anyone in her class, just putting it out there that our society could use more information on nutrition. After all there is an obesity epidemic going on, regardless of anecdotes of finicky eaters and the wonderful foods some parents prepare for their kids.
next, I'm wondering how many calories a first grader needs per day. (one site says about 1700 cals per day) the pic with the tangerines, plugged into mfp, is about 1000 calories, excluding the caramel thing in the middle I couldn't read. does that leave enough calories for healthy vegetables and meats at breakfast and dinner and evening?
Third, thin-skinned parental reactions seem to be a huge part of what is wrong with education today. Teachers truly have students' best interests in mind and can not operate effectively if parents are against them. Honestly! It makes me wonder how many of the people itching to punch out a teacher ignore the school's cell phone policy and text or call their child at any time of the day.
While I agree with much of what you said:
1) She came to us to complain about these parents, but has said NOTHING about what she has done to help educate those parents.
2) Are those kids eating everything that is packed? My son has a tendency to eat big once a day and nibble throughout the rest. His cousin is the same.
It comes down to: we don't know the full story. And complaining about it to those who do not know the whole story doesn't do anyone a lick of good (except perhaps the OP's satisfaction level from venting).0 -
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Photobucket sux. Try tinypic.com. That way maybe your photo will show up. :flowerforyou:
[/quote] THANK YOU!!! its been a while!!0 -
I'm "one of those parents", apparently.
My child is 2 and in nursery school. He gets one snack during his short time there, and I usually pack crackers or pretzels (or cheerios the other day because he didn't eat breakfast). I also put sugary fruit juice in his thermos. *shudders*
However:
1) At home he eats a lot of fruits (apples and bananas are his favorite), cheeses, and normal food. He eats mac n cheese once(?) maybe a week. He eats veggies. His breakfast will sometimes be an egg, sometimes cream of wheat, sometimes non-sugary cereal with milk. Otherwise he eats whatever we eat.
2) The only times he gets juice is during his snack at school (and it's the fruit/veggie juice). All other times, he drinks white milk (he's never had chocolate milk, and I'm not going to start if he's content with regular milk).
3) But yes, I pack processed foods for his snack. Because a) it's a treat b) it's not messy for other teachers and c) it takes him time to chew those foods and not be done within 30 seconds (as opposed to a cheese stick).
Is he a perfect healthy eater? No, but he does pretty well for a toddler imo. Would I be absolutely livid if his teacher posted pics on the internet and judged me as a parent and not knowing the full story? Oh yeah, I'd be talking to the principal on that one.
You bring up a great parental dillemma when packing snacks. They must be something that will still be edible at the time it's opened as well. Hence likely to have preservatives. I would love to see this OP come up with a suitable snack and lunch that is healthy according to her standards and also going to stay fresh until it's opened and is individually packaged or able to be easily made so. Also it needs to be easily opened and eaten fairly quickly and something the child will ACTUALLY eat, otherwise the complaint will be that the child does not eat during lunch and snack or that you are packing things he can't open or prepare on his or her own....GO!
p.s. I'd love to see pic's just like you posted of the parents' no-no snacks. Also it has to be able to be made in the morning at lightning speed. Up to the challenge OP?0 -
This thread is becoming highly amusing. One thing I will say in defense of anyone making spelling/grammar errors or correcting their OWN spelling or grammar errors after the fact is that I know when I post, if I am pissed or have a lot to say, my typing suffers and I'll sometimes choose the incorrect homonym even if I know better.
Anyway...carry on.
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go back to your bridge.
OMG! I want one for every age bracket!!!0 -
The only thing this post proves is that you don't know what you're talking about.Check out the morning snacks and lunches that are sent with some of my grade one students. This is not just one either...this happens everyday.
Their should be a test before one can have children...Sorry if you are one of those parents reading this!
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Do your grade one students know the difference between 'their', 'there' and 'they're'? Maybe they can help you out.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :blushing:
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I am not a parent. I am a college student. Honestly, even as a non-parent I can understand how a parent would have a hard time making sure a child eats well all the time! I have 100% control over what I eat, have reasonable access to healthful foods, and have the money to buy decent food... and I don't eat well all the time. Sometimes it's a result of poor planning. Sometimes I have an exam and no matter how well I plan, I wind up eating something not so great. If I were trying to take care of another human being... well, that human being would wind up eating whatever I ate, which might be good or might be "bad", depending on the day.
It seems to me that the base of the OP's concerns isn't bad--the idea being that kids should be given good foods and taught healthful eating habits--but the way in which she expressed them was judgmental rather than helpful. Ideally, the response to this is to educate parents and try to figure out why they're providing the snacks that they are. Not post pictures on an online forum and trash talk the parents. I also think that these pictures probably represent a sample of an aggregate of snacks from a class of maybe 20 or 30 students. I have a hard time believing someone would send that much food for one kid.
I agree with the comments about shaming and not considering students' home situations and how that might affect what they're bringing to school. My older sister is a teacher who taught at an ESL charter school where many of her students were socioeconomically disadvantaged. I have no idea what they were eating, but I don't think it was the clean/organic/whatever stuff that's often espoused as ideal. The teachers there were far more concerned about students' emotional health, safety (some of them were in gangs), ability to conduct themselves as young adults (they had two days of seminars after fights were breaking out in the halls), and academic achievement (one of my sister's students got a 10% on a VERY basic biology test). As social determinants of health go, the overall environment is more important than food.
The kicker is, these same pictures probably could have been posted and gotten much better responses if the text had been less judgmental. Something along the lines of, "These are the snacks my students bring to school... I wish my school community focused more on nutrition and tried to give parents the support they need to give their kids better snacks. Or provided healthful snacks instead of having kids bring stuff from home." That said, there still would have been responses of, "That might be the only unhealthful thing those kids eat all day, and kids should be taught moderation." Which is 100% reasonable, in my opinion.0
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