13 Nutrition Lies That Made The World Sick And Fat

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,940 Member
    Good article, too bad this is going to turn into a war zone. It happens every time someone points out the befits of a low carb lifestyle
    Benefits are fine. Demonizing carbs is the issue. Low carb does work, but as I've mentioned for about 90% of the people who try it, it's not sustainable.

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  • watfordjc
    watfordjc Posts: 304 Member
    Gluten caused my ASD? Given that recent research with eye tracking software, I find it hard to believe my parents fed me bread/doughnuts/pizza/etc in the first 3 months of my life.
  • Kotuliak
    Kotuliak Posts: 259 Member
    TL;DR

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have a link to the studies?


    Don't you have Google?
    I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait :wink:

    lol..thought as much

    That's not the way it works. You make an assertion, you support it.


    Pick me apart all you want if it amuses you. I already agreed with your first comment about what I said. I've already said I wasn't stating it as scientific fact. So what more do you want?

    I see many others stating opinion as fact.

    I am not picking you apart. I asked for you to cite the study, politely mind you. You came back with a rather rude comment.

    Also, no you did not say you were not stating it as scientific fact..at all. In fact, quite the opposite.
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have these studies?

    It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).

    "It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."

    True true...


    This is my reply to you. How is this rude? I agreed with you.

    Stating that "eating a lot of bread is bad for you anyway" is clearly only my opinion and should have been separated from the previous STATEMENT I agree.

    I did not argue with the poster I simply made a comment about something I remembered reading.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have these studies?

    It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).

    "It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."

    True true...


    This is my reply to you. How is this rude? I agreed with you.

    Stating that "eating a lot of bread is bad for you anyway" is clearly only my opinion and should have been separated from the previous STATEMENT I agree.

    I did not argue with the poster I simply made a comment about something I remembered reading.

    I quoted the relevant post...assuming you are even directing this at me.
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    The comment about not taking de bait was not even directed toward you Sara it was in response to someone else and not meant to be rude...notice the wink.

    But I do know to brace myself for a crap storm when someone asks for "proof of what I say is true".

    I said it several times in the posts that follow that the context in which I formed my sentence was not ment to be presented as fact.
  • piscesy2k
    piscesy2k Posts: 21 Member
    Thank you for posting, food for thought, but what it highlights, that at all stages things get a bad rap, then gets proven again that they are fine. Studies and scientists can all pro.ve/disprove a theory. At the end of the day, you should do what you believe is best for our body
  • Slrajr
    Slrajr Posts: 438 Member
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23688532/

    Abstract from an article showing no benefit from a gluten-free diet for children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. (I googled, however, I often attend workshops and read papers on this subject). It can be harmful to families to make claims that are false regarding this issue. Parents may go to great lengths to change their child's diets when they hear these false reports, many autistic children already may have food sensitivities which make diet restrictions difficult, and need I mention the tremendous guilt parents feel when they believe from false claims that they may have caused their child's disability because they fed them bread or milk.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    The comment about not taking de bait was not even directed toward you Sara it was in response to someone else and not meant to be rude...notice the wink.

    But I do know to brace myself for a crap storm when someone asks for "proof of what I say is true".

    I said it several times in the posts that follow that the context in which I formed my sentence was not ment to be presented as fact.

    So, it's ok to be rude to someone else?. That person made the same comment as me. And a wink is a cop out.

    All you need to do is to state in your original post that you think you read somewhere or something to that effect. I cannot always put my hand to something I remember - and I make that clear in my post. What I do not do is tell someone else to google it...or ask them whether they actually have google.
  • Gluten is extremely dangerous. It's becoming more and more evident that foods in their "non-processed" form are the only ones which we should strive to consume. Unfortunately for a significantly large part of the populace, that's completely unrealistic.
  • Slrajr
    Slrajr Posts: 438 Member
    Gluten is extremely dangerous. It's becoming more and more evident that foods in their "non-processed" form are the only ones which we should strive to consume. Unfortunately for a significantly large part of the populace, that's completely unrealistic.

    Sucks for me then, I've been relying on home made seitan for protein.
  • dellaquilaa
    dellaquilaa Posts: 230 Member
    *sigh* I hate seeing posts like this. I've read over a hundred nutrition-related empirical research articles at this point and I've gotta say that the most current research that is NOT funded by agribusiness completely contradicts just about everything in this list.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Gluten is extremely dangerous. It's becoming more and more evident that foods in their "non-processed" form are the only ones which we should strive to consume. Unfortunately for a significantly large part of the populace, that's completely unrealistic.

    Dangerous? In what way? How? For whom?
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    Like I said. It wasn't meant to be rude and my statement wasn't intended as fact. I am sorry if I made anyone think otherwise.
  • abbyolurin1
    abbyolurin1 Posts: 153 Member
    Excellent!
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    I am trying to remember where I read that though. The same as that person up there ^^^ about it being dangerous.

    In the article it talks about American wheat products and how they actually add extra gluten to it resulting in more people becoming sensitive or intolerant and not knowing it.
  • kelly_e_montana
    kelly_e_montana Posts: 1,999 Member
    I pretty much agree with the whole thing.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,185 Member
    I am trying to remember where I read that though. The same as that person up there ^^^ about it being dangerous.

    In the article it talks about American wheat products and how they actually add extra gluten to it resulting in more people becoming sensitive or intolerant and not knowing it.
    Probably on the internet.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    Food for thought OP:
    Many of the people here think your basis for your information is complete crap
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    11. Yep sodium is usually not a issue unless one has high BP issues.

    High BinaryPulsar issues?
  • AccioFitness
    AccioFitness Posts: 244 Member
    Bump to read later!
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    I am trying to remember where I read that though. The same as that person up there ^^^ about it being dangerous.

    In the article it talks about American wheat products and how they actually add extra gluten to it resulting in more people becoming sensitive or intolerant and not knowing it.
    Probably on the internet.

    Hmm....Idk...maybe.
  • Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have these studies?

    It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).

    "It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."

    True true...


    This is my reply to you. How is this rude? I agreed with you.

    Stating that "eating a lot of bread is bad for you anyway" is clearly only my opinion and should have been separated from the previous STATEMENT I agree.

    I did not argue with the poster I simply made a comment about something I remembered reading.

    I quoted the relevant post...assuming you are even directing this at me.

    I have a feeling Sammy was referring to the damage caused by gluten in those who are Coeliac...

    "When people with celiac disease eat foods or use products containing gluten, their immune system responds by damaging or destroying villi—the tiny, fingerlike protrusions lining the small intestine. Villi normally allow nutrients from food to be absorbed through the walls of the small intestine into the bloodstream. Without healthy villi, a person becomes malnourished, no matter how much food one eats."
    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/

    However, this is an autoimmune issue and not just caused by anyone eating gluten and demonising gluten is not the answer. Unless, like Sara said, you have a problem with it in the first place.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    For a second there I thought the title of this thread pointed to a Cracked article....except if it was, it would be " 13 Mind-blowing Nutrition Lies That Made The World Sick And Fat"
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have these studies?

    It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).

    "It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."

    True true...


    This is my reply to you. How is this rude? I agreed with you.

    Stating that "eating a lot of bread is bad for you anyway" is clearly only my opinion and should have been separated from the previous STATEMENT I agree.

    I did not argue with the poster I simply made a comment about something I remembered reading.

    I quoted the relevant post...assuming you are even directing this at me.

    I have a feeling Sammy was referring to the damage caused by gluten in those who are Coeliac...

    "When people with celiac disease eat foods or use products containing gluten, their immune system responds by damaging or destroying villi—the tiny, fingerlike protrusions lining the small intestine. Villi normally allow nutrients from food to be absorbed through the walls of the small intestine into the bloodstream. Without healthy villi, a person becomes malnourished, no matter how much food one eats."
    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/

    However, this is an autoimmune issue and not just caused by anyone eating gluten and demonising gluten is not the answer. Unless, like Sara said, you have a problem with it in the first place.

    Not celiac. I think you are born with celiac? More like a sensitivity...or intolerance that is developed over time.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.

    There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))

    Do you have these studies?

    It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).

    "It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."

    True true...


    This is my reply to you. How is this rude? I agreed with you.

    Stating that "eating a lot of bread is bad for you anyway" is clearly only my opinion and should have been separated from the previous STATEMENT I agree.

    I did not argue with the poster I simply made a comment about something I remembered reading.

    I quoted the relevant post...assuming you are even directing this at me.

    I have a feeling Sammy was referring to the damage caused by gluten in those who are Coeliac...

    "When people with celiac disease eat foods or use products containing gluten, their immune system responds by damaging or destroying villi—the tiny, fingerlike protrusions lining the small intestine. Villi normally allow nutrients from food to be absorbed through the walls of the small intestine into the bloodstream. Without healthy villi, a person becomes malnourished, no matter how much food one eats."
    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/

    However, this is an autoimmune issue and not just caused by anyone eating gluten and demonising gluten is not the answer. Unless, like Sara said, you have a problem with it in the first place.

    I actually was not aware of the specifics of the nutrient absorption issue - good to know and thanks for the link.
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    This is an old article about a study that was done...

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/379089

    Mind you I am not touting this as gospel. I have read other articles like this and it does weigh on my mind me being from the south. People eat bread religiously down here. We even have annual festivals centered around battering/breading anything and everything then deep frying it.

    Deep fried Snickers anyone?

    So yes. I'm a little biased against it lol. Being fat is normal down here.
  • This is an old article about a study that was done...

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/379089

    Mind you I am not touting this as gospel. I have read other articles like this and it does weigh on my mind me being from the south. People eat bread religiously down here. We even have annual festivals centered around battering/breading anything and everything then deep frying it.

    Deep fried Snickers anyone?

    So yes. I'm a little biased against it lol. Being fat is normal down here.


    Ahhhk - well, pretty much every study huffpost referenced refers to coeliac and undiagnosed coeliac disease, so that would be why you associated it. And for some of it, I think they've thrown the studies in via a basic word search as the study cited for the links of gluten to autism is about the fact there are no perceivable benefits of a gluten free diet for those with autism.
  • rgugs13
    rgugs13 Posts: 197 Member
    Any article that contains "It is pretty much a scientific fact at this point." immediately makes me think otherwise. That kind of phrasing is what people use for arguments when they don't have the actual data to back it up. If there are enough studies conclusively proving it a scientific fact, then you would call it a scientific fact and name all the fancy studies that did so. When you don't have that data, but might have some studies that lean in your direction, you would use the qualifier "pretty much" knowing that all people will focus on is the scientific fact part, and then if it all goes south later, you can say well you didn't actually claim it to be a fact, just that it was pretty much considered one.


    There are some things I agree with. Many things, not so much.