Clean Eating Bashing?

I skipped pages 2-12 because I just don't care...

I don't have any idea what eating clean means, but I totally agree on your view of food.

I eat whole foods, organic when possible, local when possible, no beef or pork, yada yada. 100% of the time? No. But I would say at least 90%. It's not even for weight loss... it's because

1 - I don't want to eat all of the GRAS stuff the FDA allows in processed foods though no one has studied.
2 - pesicides and GMOs scare me (even though Monsanto swears they're safe)
3 - I care about the environmental and economic impact our (the US) food system has on the entire world
4 - I disagree with the way most food animals are raised (living conditions, hormones, feed, etc).
5 - My kid has food allergies and I have to know exactly what is in his food and how it's prepared

The result of my eating this way? I eat like a horse, exercise little, don't count calories, and don't gain weight. I also FEEL better.

i love this reply! but if you dont count calories, why are you on MFP?

I can't really speak for them...

...but I'm here for the consistently knowledgeable, intelligent, and logical forums.



ETA: Yeah, I also count calories...but that's just to fit in with the cool kids.

I eat clean..Works for me! Eating clean is about your body not the environment though...(If you search the history of it.)(and people, like me, who eat clean tend to do supplements, protein shakes and what not, that are put in containers and "made". I stopped eating mammals..because my cholesterol and triglycerides were through the roof and... because I like animals...but if you wanna go eat that Big Mac.....that is your perogative! I don't know why anyone would bash anyone on here..but people behind a keyboard can sometimes be jerks...I have a; ."I can't type it if I wouldn't say it to your face" rule. But when we bring up others negativity it is just fueling the fire. I support anyone who makes an effort to be healthier! Oh and I am on here because it is a printable journal of my food consumption and I can make sure I am keeping my sugar, carbs and protein where I need them...you don't have to just use this for weight loss! Haters everywhere! come on guys! BE NICE!

I eat clean..Works for me! Eating clean is about your body not the environment though...(If you search the history of it.)(and people, like me, who eat clean tend to do supplements, protein shakes and what not, that are put in containers and "made". I stopped eating mammals..because my cholesterol and triglycerides were through the roof and... because I like animals...but if you wanna go eat that Big Mac.....that is your perogative! I don't know why anyone would bash anyone on here..but people behind a keyboard can sometimes be jerks...I have a; ."I can't type it if I wouldn't say it to your face" rule. But when we bring up others negativity it is just fueling the fire. I support anyone who makes an effort to be healthier! Oh and I am on here because it is a printable journal of my food consumption and I can make sure I am keeping my sugar, carbs and protein where I need them...you don't have to just use this for weight loss! Haters everywhere! come on guys! BE NICE!
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Did we ever figure out how much money the clean eaters where going to save in obamacare money?

Since most diet related diseases take many years to develop, and so many other factors such as lifestyle, family history, and chance probabilities would come into play, that would be a very difficult amount to figure.

Implying that people who don't "eat clean" will develop diet-related diseases.

How else would one save money on healthcare except to avoid disease? And how else would clean eating affect disease, other than diet related disease?

It looks like you're treating "clean eating leads to fewer diseases" as a postulate instead of a hypothesis.

It "looks like" what you choose to see, and I can't control what you choose to infer from a simple post.

A poster asked if we had figured their healthcare savings from clean eating. I postulated nothing other than it would be hard to figure. The rest was all you.

But you're assuming it would be something other than zero

Reading minds now, are we?

If that's how you refer to reading...

Still you reading and you infering. I never said any of the things you suggest.

I inferred it because you implied it.

You assumed there is a difference in disease between clean and not clean. It is an implicit assumption to your whole post.

Did we ever figure out how much money the clean eaters where going to save in obamacare money?

Since most diet related diseases take many years to develop, and so many other factors such as lifestyle, family history, and chance probabilities would come into play, that would be a very difficult amount to figure.

Implying that people who don't "eat clean" will develop diet-related diseases.

How else would one save money on healthcare except to avoid disease? And how else would clean eating affect disease, other than diet related disease?

It looks like you're treating "clean eating leads to fewer diseases" as a postulate instead of a hypothesis.

It "looks like" what you choose to see, and I can't control what you choose to infer from a simple post.

A poster asked if we had figured their healthcare savings from clean eating. I postulated nothing other than it would be hard to figure. The rest was all you.

But you're assuming it would be something other than zero

Reading minds now, are we?

If that's how you refer to reading...

Still you reading and you infering. I never said any of the things you suggest.

Wow. I guess you have to spell everything out and paint a picture in black and white for some people. smh...

Did we ever figure out how much money the clean eaters where going to save in obamacare money?

Since most diet related diseases take many years to develop, and so many other factors such as lifestyle, family history, and chance probabilities would come into play, that would be a very difficult amount to figure.

Implying that people who don't "eat clean" will develop diet-related diseases.

How else would one save money on healthcare except to avoid disease? And how else would clean eating affect disease, other than diet related disease?

It looks like you're treating "clean eating leads to fewer diseases" as a postulate instead of a hypothesis.

It "looks like" what you choose to see, and I can't control what you choose to infer from a simple post.

A poster asked if we had figured their healthcare savings from clean eating. I postulated nothing other than it would be hard to figure. The rest was all you.

But you're assuming it would be something other than zero

Reading minds now, are we?

If that's how you refer to reading...

Still you reading and you infering. I never said any of the things you suggest.

I inferred it because you implied it.

You assumed there is a difference in disease between clean and not clean. It is an implicit assumption to your whole post.

Nope, still just you projecting. That could, I suppose, be true of the poster who asked about the savings (I took her post as a sarcastic inference to a previous post, but that could just be me projecting). I only said that it would be hard to calculate, no reference to outcome was made or implied.

I "eat clean" because I feel much better when I keep my processed food consumption to a minimum. I do not take it to an extreme, nor do I conform to any particular pop diet (paleo, etc.) I think the fact that my ex-hippie mom raised me on a very natural, healthy and nutritious diet helps, too. I find that I get sick a lot less often than my peers; I get about one head cold a year, I never get the flu (nor do I bother getting vaccinated), and I rarely have any digestive complaints. My future sister-in-law is quite thin but eats mostly junk food and very few fruits and vegetables. She always looks fatigued and she's always sick. I'd say clean eating works, and any move in that direction will improve your health and sense of well-being. That said, you can eat still get fat eating too much health, nutritious food!

I eat clean[er] because most of my "healthy/fit" family members came down with and/or have died from cancer, so I have a conspiracy theory that all the fake stuff they put in "food" gets stuck and is unable to be processed through our bodies, and that contributes to cancer.

maybe it's because I don't have children/no one would mourn me/I haven't passed "my legacy" onto anyone, but I don't want to be 60 and using my retirement funds to pay for chemo and radiation.

I want to live!

...so I eat real food as much as possible.

People have been dying of cancer for tens of thousands of years, at least. The ancient Egyptian Empire and the Ancient Greeks both wrote about them. Hippocrates actually named it 3000 years ago.

It's got nothing to do with the food, as they certainly didn't have "all that fake stuff" (whatever that even means) back then.

While certainly food is not the only cause of cancer, but you can't really say with any certainty that food has nothing to do with it.

Looks like Jonny is getting another roommate.

"Clean eating" is such a curious phrase. What does it even mean? Why not say you have a "whole foods" diet, or a "mostly organic whole foods diet," or an "all my food is specially blessed by the Pope" diet? The whole "clean eating" thing gets even stranger when people start calling animal products "clean." Do some research into what terms like "organic," and "free range" actually mean when applied to animal foods. (Hint: not very much.)

Once upon a time, all of our food was being labeled "low fat." Then, everything started coming out "low carb." Now everything is "organic" and "gluten free." Whatever makes you feel "clean" at the end of the day, I guess.