Military is now trying to give dress codes for civilians!

I could be wrong, but what I'm getting from that poster is that they mean people who are on the base (i.e. Off-Duty Military, military families). I'm not seeing where they're trying to control what civilians who are off base wear...

On a military post, I guess they have the right to enforce dress codes as they own the property and it's under their control. In the UK for example military homes can only have certain paint inside, the gardens have to be maintained to strict standards, the military police are in control of the area, the roads, and any offences that occur therein.

'Near' a military post isn't 'on' a military post, i don't see how they'd have any right to enforce dress codes outside of land under their jurisdiction.

On base they definitely have the right and should be enforced. Just the same as a restaurant saying you must wear a tie, a jacket, or some other requirement.

My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.

Well, there are some stores I have seen that have signs indicating they do not allow certain types of clothing/hats as well. If a convenience store can enforce it then, yes, the military can absolutely enforce this one base. It's not any different than say a school dress code, right?

(I am military) That is the requirement if you are on base, its annoying but its there base they can enforce what they want. They see it as professionalism.

Any establishment has the right to have a dress code.

If you are in the military, you have rules to follow, both on and off duty. Dress code is part of it. Members of the Navy, for instance, are not allowed to wear white undershirt-type t-shirts in public, unless it is as an actual undershirt. (think a Hanes 3-pack).

If you are not in the military, and are visiting a military installation, you have to follow their rules. You are a guest of the military member, and if you act/dress/etc inappropriately, not only do you get asked to leave, the military member can/will get in trouble (depending on the offence).

Each base has it's own set of guidelines, what they want, what they will allow. My base, when I was active duty, for instance...we could go up to 500 miles away before needing to be on leave. My husband's base...it's only 150 miles.

We sign a contract and know what we are getting into. Civilian members visiting an installation may not. But, like any other place, if you don't like it, you don't have to go there.

I work in corporate America and know that I can't show up to my workplace, "off duty" in booty shorts, a crop top, or with my underpants creeping out over the top. A base is a workplace, first and foremost. It's also a gated community, in a manner of speaking.

If you are a civilian and can either live or shop on-base, it's probably because your spouse's salary comes from the military and so you have access to amenities or privileges that other civilians don't have. As the wife of a veteran, the way I see it is if you want those rights, you have to play by their rules.

I've seen those posters for years on bases that we've lived or visited. Doesn't bother me but I'm also not one to leave my house in booty shorts or PJs.

Of course they have a right to enforce a dress code on their property.

All of those examples on the poster were frankly disrespectful to wear in/around a place of business. There is absolutely no way I would show up at my workplace or at my spouse's workplace wearing any of those things (except maybe the PT t-shirt).

Why would military spouses or family members want to wander around base in their pajamas, underwear or inappropriately skanky shorts/dresses, especially in front of their spouse's co-workers and commanders? How disrespectful to their spouse!

It says off duty, not civilians. It references a base, not across the country. The thread title was very misleading.

This. I sometimes work on the local military base and posters such as these (which also are NOT new and have been up as long as I can remember) are for military personnel (and typically spouses as well) when on base but off duty. This isn't meant for civilians. However, most civilians still will adhere when on base as a matter of courtesy. I personally go by these criteria when I am working on base as a matter of professionalism.

My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.

Love it!

I agree. On base you comply. My only exception may be wearing the APFU’s as long as you have an intended purpose of doing some type of exercise. Just wearing them to town and back, lounging around, or going to the PX probably would be a no. I've worn them paying football or soccer and I guess that could be a form of physical fitness.

I find this no different than the "no shirt, no shoes" policy, they've just expanded upon it. Their facility, their rules if you don't like it, don't go there. I don't understand the big deal. In fact, I wish everyone followed these rules and then maybe I wouldn't have nightmares.

I can see why this generation would have a problem with this as they are the problem. As a vet, and someone who has one child entering military service next year when he graduates from college and another one considering it in a year after he finishes law school, I have no problem with any of this when I was in or now that I am not. This generation needs to learn what the word respect means, not only for themselves but for others as well.

Jonathan