Military is now trying to give dress codes for civilians!

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  • greenhudler
    greenhudler Posts: 150
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    It says off duty, not civilians. It references a base, not across the country. The thread title was very misleading.
    This. I sometimes work on the local military base and posters such as these (which also are NOT new and have been up as long as I can remember) are for military personnel (and typically spouses as well) when on base but off duty. This isn't meant for civilians. However, most civilians still will adhere when on base as a matter of courtesy. I personally go by these criteria when I am working on base as a matter of professionalism.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
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    This is not about civilians. It's about off duty military conduct. If you visit a base, you are a VISITOR. You follow the rules and if you don't like them, you stay off their property.

    ETA: This is one of the more irritating posts I have seen.
  • ChristineinMA
    ChristineinMA Posts: 312 Member
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    My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
    Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.

    Love it!
  • DoingitWell
    DoingitWell Posts: 560 Member
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    If you are on base they have a right to tell you how to dress civillian or not. Dress codes are EVERYWHERE.
  • texerus
    texerus Posts: 62 Member
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    I agree. On base you comply. My only exception may be wearing the APFU’s as long as you have an intended purpose of doing some type of exercise. Just wearing them to town and back, lounging around, or going to the PX probably would be a no. I've worn them paying football or soccer and I guess that could be a form of physical fitness.
  • keem88
    keem88 Posts: 1,689 Member
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    if its military grounds that they are restricting it on then they have every right. if it is out in the community then i would say that is ridiculous
  • ssmaling
    ssmaling Posts: 83 Member
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    I find this no different than the "no shirt, no shoes" policy, they've just expanded upon it. Their facility, their rules if you don't like it, don't go there. I don't understand the big deal. In fact, I wish everyone followed these rules and then maybe I wouldn't have nightmares. ;)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,692 Member
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    Lol, this isn't really a new revelation. It's been pretty much imposed since my dad was in the military (Air Force and now retired). Hell if I did something wrong and got caught when my dad was still active, you would see it in the military newspaper saying "the son of MSGT. _________ was apprehended doing........"
    Nothing wrong with it. Keeping the discipline going even while off duty is okay.

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  • jonmscharff
    jonmscharff Posts: 72 Member
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    I can see why this generation would have a problem with this as they are the problem. As a vet, and someone who has one child entering military service next year when he graduates from college and another one considering it in a year after he finishes law school, I have no problem with any of this when I was in or now that I am not. This generation needs to learn what the word respect means, not only for themselves but for others as well.

    Jonathan
  • ChipmunkRoastingmmm
    ChipmunkRoastingmmm Posts: 4 Member
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    OMG yes, yes, yes.

    If only it could be extended to people in public, everywhere. The sloppy, unkempt look has taken over the grocery stores, the shopping malls, the schools, the workplace, etc. Ill-dressed people who look dirty.

    And throw in visible tattoos and piercings.

    And a great big "you kids get off my lawn" while we're at it.

    And then fat people.

    The poem First They Came comes to mind:

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    to speak out for me

    ~*~ Pastor Martin Niemoller
  • salladeve
    salladeve Posts: 1,053 Member
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    I don't think there is any "trying" in this poster. They are telling people not in uniform how they may dress on the base. This is perfectly within their rights to do so, and no real surprise to those of us who have spent any time on a military base. I wouldn't get too upset over it, save your booty shorts for a visit to the mall :bigsmile: that's what I do :bigsmile:
  • airdale8263
    airdale8263 Posts: 2,155 Member
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    The poster states prohibited on this facility nothing about off base.
    I was in the Navy for 26+ years.....rules about dressing were applicable on the base not when you are off base. You still need to look respectable, though.
    Whether in uniform or out you still have to follow the rules/regulations established....you are under contract 24/7/365.

    I do not have a problem with this rule/regulation.
  • jim9097
    jim9097 Posts: 341 Member
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    I served 21 years in the military; I have been a DOD contractor, and now a GS civilian, for the last five years. We have always had a dress code! Maybe some lower level civilians working in a supply center or something like that. You may be able to get away with wearing jeans, or a T-shirt. If you work on a large staff; you are not afforded that luxury.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
    Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.

    Yes, because your tastes and preferences are the only ones that matter, right?

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  • kuntry_navy
    kuntry_navy Posts: 677 Member
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    on base they should. though its definitely not new. they enforced it on navy bases when I served. at least at social gatherings on base
  • janupshaw
    janupshaw Posts: 205 Member
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    If only this dress code was extended to civilians! Or Walmarts! Except for the PT uniform of t-shirt & shorts, I agree with all of it.
  • mikej1978
    mikej1978 Posts: 362 Member
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    It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)

    Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL
  • spirit05
    spirit05 Posts: 204 Member
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    This only applies to OFF-DUTY MILITARY! It has nothing to do with civilians.
  • laserturkey
    laserturkey Posts: 1,680 Member
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    Banks tell people they can't wear sunglasses or hats in them, too. Schools have dress codes for their students. Most businesses have dress codes for their employees. I don't see what the big deal is.

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