Why diet cola could be making you FATTER and WRINKLIER

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  • fatfudgery
    fatfudgery Posts: 449 Member
    I just gave this article for people to read. Do with the information what you want. I'm not really phased.

    She's just fighting illiteracy, people! Why you so mean?!
  • Slrajr
    Slrajr Posts: 438 Member
    This story hit our local news media also, but the story was more about how soda companies are going to survive with all the bad press.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy. If you're drinking diet soda and not eating with it, then of course your body will eventually realize that it needs to go back to stored fuel. But if you're drinking it with a meal, then it can play havoc on how much of that meal is stored as fat.
    This would make perfect sense, except for the fact that the human body is burning stored fat and glucose ALL THE TIME. There's no "switch over" from one energy system to the other.

    Please explain in terms of the actual biology why drinking a diet soda "can play havoc" on how food is burned or stored as fat, keeping in mind that food will not be stored as fat when eating in a deficit, because it's a biological impossibility.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy. If you're drinking diet soda and not eating with it, then of course your body will eventually realize that it needs to go back to stored fuel. But if you're drinking it with a meal, then it can play havoc on how much of that meal is stored as fat.
    This would make perfect sense, except for the fact that the human body is burning stored fat and glucose ALL THE TIME. There's no "switch over" from one energy system to the other.

    Please explain in terms of the actual biology why drinking a diet soda "can play havoc" on how food is burned or stored as fat, keeping in mind that food will not be stored as fat when eating in a deficit, because it's a biological impossibility.
    Why you talk nonsense.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy. If you're drinking diet soda and not eating with it, then of course your body will eventually realize that it needs to go back to stored fuel. But if you're drinking it with a meal, then it can play havoc on how much of that meal is stored as fat.
    I would LOVE to see the peer-reviewed research which bears out this hypothesis.

    Let's assume that since one is drinking diet soda, there may be some weight loss effort involved. Hypothetically, said effort would most likely also entail operating at a caloric deficit. I'm interested to hear how diet soda negates the laws of thermodynamics and causes fat storage while in a caloric deficit.

    *takes a sip of diet soda and waits patiently*
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Tinfoil hats, anyone?
    No thanks. I've heard from some sources that the government wants people to wear the tinfoil hats so that they can more easily send radio signals into our brains.

    So should we be switching to saran wrap then?
    Saran? As in saran gas? Um, you go ahead. I'll pass.

    No. Saran as in SARAN wrap...not SARIN gas.
    I had a friend Seren in high school, but I don't think he's particularly gassy, nor do I think anyone would appreciate it if I wrapped him around my head...:indifferent:
    What about Sarris?
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  • Mother_Superior
    Mother_Superior Posts: 1,624 Member
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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy.

    When eating at a caloric deficit, it doesn't matter that the body switches to using the just-ingested food because it will go right back to the reserves once those are used up. And we know that they will be used up because...you got it...the body is operating in a caloric deficit. In the end, the amount of the deficit is what comes out of reserves, regardless of macro content or ingestion timing.

    When eating at a caloric surplus, none of this matters because you're gaining weight no matter what your macros are. Whether the new fat being packed on is coming from a protein calorie or a fat calorie or a carb calorie is, fundamentally, irrelevant.
  • gallowglasslass
    gallowglasslass Posts: 19 Member
    I love diet coke. It quenches my thirst, makes me feel full if i'm peckish and generally lifts my spirits. It's also perfect for cleaning the toilet bowl and taking tarnish off coins so the tooth fairy can leave a shiny 'new' coin. IMHO it's a perfect all rounder :laugh:

    I use it to clean my license plate before putting on the new tab sticker. Also works great on grimy keyboard keys.
  • rie_q
    rie_q Posts: 73
    Tinfoil hats, anyone?
    No thanks. I've heard from some sources that the government wants people to wear the tinfoil hats so that they can more easily send radio signals into our brains.

    So should we be switching to saran wrap then?
    Saran? As in saran gas? Um, you go ahead. I'll pass.

    No. Saran as in SARAN wrap...not SARIN gas.
    I had a friend Seren in high school, but I don't think he's particularly gassy, nor do I think anyone would appreciate it if I wrapped him around my head...:indifferent:
    What about Sarris?
    reptilian-aliens-galaxy-quest-sarris-3.jpg

    sars2.jpg
  • poponastick302
    poponastick302 Posts: 77 Member
    daily mail? enough said!

    ^ this. It's all cherry-picking and anecdotal evidence based off of one study or some nut who decided to try to legitimise their stupid theories by making a website.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Quit baggin on the Daily Fail it's at least better than the watered down idiot rags like CNN and Fox that we get to read here in the states. What there's other news outside of the US...now way!? I thought we were the center of the universe.

    OK go back to arguing about your wrinkles and fat. Just had to stand up for the Daily Mail at least it's entertaining and extensive.
  • vampirequeen1959
    vampirequeen1959 Posts: 196 Member
    I read the DM because it's so funny. Unfortunately a lot of DM readers (including my mother) believe it's xenophobic, anti-benefits, right wing nonsense.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    As a diabetic Diet is a healthier choice since it has NO carbs....
  • JcMey3r
    JcMey3r Posts: 431 Member
    get back n day later and already on 5 pages, this is my thought on this topic

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  • nikigmoney
    nikigmoney Posts: 19
    Holy cow! Don't talk crap about diet soda! People are dead serious...........proof that it is highly addictive and clearly makes you more aggressive.:laugh:
  • jkowula
    jkowula Posts: 447
    I am pretty sure that if you put whiskey in it, it is much better for you... well at least I am going to keep telling myself that every weekend... 1st step is admitting you have a problem... I am still good to go!
  • kuroi19
    kuroi19 Posts: 45
    Holy cow! Don't talk crap about diet soda! People are dead serious...........proof that it is highly addictive and clearly makes you more aggressive.:laugh:

    I wish I could still be addicted to it =p It was so easy to keep a good diet... But I had to drop my caffeine addiction, and sadly there are non caffeine diet sodas but anything with sweeteners other than pepsi max tastes like garbage to me.
  • nikigmoney
    nikigmoney Posts: 19
    yep, actually i am on a vodka soda cleanse! I am so skinny!
  • nikigmoney
    nikigmoney Posts: 19
    NO CAFFEINE!! That is very sad.........I am highly addicted to coffee:noway:
  • arcticfox04
    arcticfox04 Posts: 1,011 Member
    I'll drink my my full sugar fizzy water. Atleast I know I'll bounce off the walls for 20 minutes before having a sad crash back into the world.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 535 Member
    I lost my hair drinking diet soda:(

    ^this

    ...except I didn't even *drink* the stuff, I just looked at it a few times and have since lost my hair.

    STAY FAR AWAY FROM DIET SODA!!1!1!eleven!!1

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    Heisenberg wouldn't lie

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