The Daniel Plan
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This is directly from the site:
"The Daniel Plan focuses on the core food groups of healthy carbs, healthy fats, healthy protein, healing spices, drinks, and super foods. And The Daniel Plan gives an easy guideline to use for any meal:
50 percent non-starchy veggies
25 percent healthy animal or vegetable proteins
25 percent healthy starch or whole grains
Side of low-glycemic fruit
Drink—water or herbal ice teas with"
Ok, people who think this program is so awesome, please explain what a "healthy" protein is. Because a gram of protein is a gram of protein and going to equal 4 calories, whether it comes from organic free range chicken or a mostly-circus-animal-some-filler taco from Taco Bell. If it fits in your macros and calorie count, you're going to lose weight.
Holy my gawd...i think I just found my new years resolution I"M GONNA drive my hubby as crazy with this murky and vague and impossible to pinpoint diet as he has with the Paleo ONLY I am totally gonna trump him b/c GOD! muahahahahahaaaaaaa!
Ask him if he knows what a healthy carb is for me too, will you? I want to be able to strategically place Mr. Yuck stickers on the unhealthy carbs in my food and eat around them.0 -
I never heard of this, I had to look it up.
As far as diet fads go, it seems pretty reasonable. It doesn't appear to be just a diet, but a lifestyle plan with spirituality mixed in. I just skimmed it, but the diet portion seems to be like the paleo diet sans meat? As long as your get in your recommended protein, I don't see an issue with this "program".
Religion is a huge motivating factor for many people, I don't see the problem with applying it to fitness. Actually, I wish more churches and religious segments would do the same. I've seen far more dangerous and ridiculous faith based fitness programs out there. Scientology anyone?!?!
I looked it up as well the other day to see what it was. The food list I saw, included most meats, except for pork. It said to have 50% of your plate non-starch veggies, 25% lean meats, and 25% whole grains. Plus a side of fruit.
The diet itself sounds very healthy, but I love pork too much to give it up. It also is lower fat than my body prefers, as nuts and seeds, and other healthy fats are used only sparingly.
As for the marketing of it, yes, it appears to be a way for Pastor Rick to make another killing like he did with Purpose Driven Life. Doesn't make what he says bad, but when tons of money start rolling in, it can corrupt the motives of even the strongest of Christians.
But hey, if it helps some people in the Christian community to start living healthier lifestyles, than go for it. I grew up in the Southern Baptist community and gluttony was definitely not considered a deadly sin in our church. The potluck suppers are always awesome!
QFT. and taking a break. good looking out. thanks. :flowerforyou:0 -
Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.
*Nods*
Although I'm not really so much offended as befuddled. The way I learned it/read it, the point of the story was less the specific foods and more obedience to God.
I do think it's wrong for someone to use this religious thing to make money. There's a word for that: priestcraft.
Also tagging so I can come back later for amusement.0 -
Wow - I'm surprise by the intensity of some of the post on this subject. I want to express the Daniel Plan is not intended to be diet plan. It is a fast with the intent of spirtual reflection. The fast usually last 21 days and during this time you're primarily eating fruits and vegetables. I've done the Daniel Fast many times and yes, while on the fast I've lost weight. I didn't do the fast to lose weight. Hope that helps. Happy New Year!0
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The Biblical story of Daniel had him eating only vegetables and water because the meat was sacrificed to the king's idols, not because meat was bad for him.0
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My mom did it and lost 10 lbs in a month! The Daniel fast is about cleaning your body out by eating very little/no meat, and tons of vegetables. Leavened bread is replaced by flat breads and pita bread. All religion aside, it is a very healthy fast, but it is just a fast. I think the maximum days they recommend is 21 days.0
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from what i hear, cleanses of any sort are like fad diets...they work well for a short period of time and then people gain the weight back...it makes no sense to me...i would rather make lifestyle changes that are healthy for me than put my body through something too intense and quick..slow and steady is more likely to work best and you will want to maintain it better...this just doesnt sound like a good idea0
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Who is in for the John Paul the Baptist diet? Locusts and wild honey, anyone?
Anyone?
:bigsmile: lol im down for chocolate cherpies and the honey- i can make booze out of it and yeast :drinker:0 -
Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.
*Nods*
Although I'm not really so much offended as befuddled. The way I learned it/read it, the point of the story was less the specific foods and more obedience to God.
I do think it's wrong for someone to use this religious thing to make money. There's a word for that: priestcraft.
Also tagging so I can come back later for amusement.
Maybe befuddled is a better word. Basically I'm just shaking my head.0 -
I think Daniel didn't want to eat the Babylonian king's delicacies due to the fact that they were unclean according to Jewish law and may have been used in sacrifice to foreign gods. (Daniel was in captivity in a foreign land.) It was a moral fast, not a diet or a desire to be healthier. He asked to just have veggies in order to avoid sacrificial meat, not meat in general. He felt that his God was worthy to be followed, so he did all he could to express that. His God wasn't forcing him to follow, just leading. We can follow anything...or any diet...we want. Choose today for yourself... but know what you're choosing. Research thoroughly all the different diets that you consider. Glad you asked about it.0
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I think Daniel didn't want to eat the Babylonian king's delicacies due to the fact that they were unclean according to Jewish law and may have been used in sacrifice to foreign gods. (Daniel was in captivity in a foreign land.) It was a moral fast, not a diet or a desire to be healthier. He asked to just have veggies in order to avoid sacrificial meat, not meat in general. He felt that his God was worthy to be followed, so he did all he could to express that. His God wasn't forcing him to follow, just leading. We can follow anything...or any diet...we want. Choose today for yourself... but know what you're choosing. Research thoroughly all the different diets that you consider. Glad you asked about it.
This was nicely put. Daniel and his three companions were aristocrats of Jewish society. They were hand picked by Babylonian officials to be trained in special service to the Babylonian king. They were well versed in Jewish law, and did not want to risk displeasing their God YHWH by eating food that was considered unclean according to the Mosaic Law. It was not a purposeful fast, just the 'clean eating' version of the time. Which people still do.
They don't want to defile their bodies with 'chemicals' or 'pre-prepared' foods that they didn't have a hand in preparing. Usually now it is not for reasons of displeasing God, but eating a simpler diet can give one extra time to spend in prayer and meditation, and so the person feels closer to their God.
Hmmm hope that makes sense.0 -
Wrong. I have thought them through very well. I'm a researcher by occupation. I just don't want to argue the point. I don't care to convince you. That's my right. I prefer to spend my energy on other things. I answered the OP questions and that's all. Have fun with the debate.
Well, all the 'science' I have seen suggests otherwise.To each his/ her own. If you want to know he science you can of it yourself and make your own decision. I'm convinced and it's working for me.
Perhaps you could direct us to what you have seen that's convinced you and explain your thinking around it.
The problem I find with people that don't want to "get involved" is that all to often it's actually they don't like their own preconceptions being challenged because they haven't thought them through well enough!0 -
What do you research?0
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The Daniel fast is a plant based diet. Look in the book of Daniel. He didn't eat the kings meat (standard American diet) but instead ate pulse and beans and looked better than the kings men after. It's what science is telling us. Eat plant based non processed healthy food. Rick Warren just repackaged it for money. Google Daniel fast instead of Daniel plan.
Amen Sister!0 -
The Daniel fast is a plant based diet. Look in the book of Daniel. He didn't eat the kings meat (standard American diet) but instead ate pulse and beans and looked better than the kings men after. It's what science is telling us. Eat plant based non processed healthy food. Rick Warren just repackaged it for money. Google Daniel fast instead of Daniel plan.
Science doesn't tell us that at all. Also, "looked better" is very much a matter of preference.
If you are a Bible reader it states in the book of Daniel that they "looked better"...
If you're not a Bible reader it may be "a matter of preference" to you0 -
From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.
First: swimming.
Second: Dog Walking
I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.0 -
Wouldn't know. I'm an atheist, so I usually ignore threads about God.
Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.
I didn't realize MFP filled with people of various religious backgrounds (or lack thereof) constituted as a small group. Good to know.
Neither did I realize promoting it through various forms of media was also keeping it to a small group.
Things you learn....
Guess you could report the thread if it offends you.
I am agnostic so I am mixed about "God threads". On a fitness site I am like you...I would probably ignore it. However...I think this place is big enough that if there are people that want a place to gather and do the Daniel Plan together I think that MFP can accommodate that myself.
If an eating plan works for them that is inspired by their faith...then I say congratulations. We all need what inspires us.0 -
Just to clear up one thing- There is a big difference between the Daniel FAST, which has been around for years, and the Daniel PLAN, which is a new God-based weight loss plan, created by Rick Warren with the help of some doctors, such as Dr Oz.
The FAST is a temporary thing, whereas the PLAN is a lifestyle change, similar to the Paleo or Mediterranean Diet, with some adjustments, with a spiritual aspect to it, to be used by churches in a small group setting for support.0 -
From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.
First: swimming.
Second: Dog Walking
I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.
Mmmm, I think I could go for that Daniel [Craig] plan.0 -
Just to clear up one thing- There is a big difference between the Daniel FAST, which has been around for years, and the Daniel PLAN, which is a new God-based weight loss plan, created by Rick Warren with the help of some doctors, such as Dr Oz.
The FAST is a temporary thing, whereas the PLAN is a lifestyle change, similar to the Paleo or Mediterranean Diet, with some adjustments, with a spiritual aspect to it, to be used by churches in a small group setting for support.
I think some of us understand that but it seems as if there is some confusion about the two.
I know that religion is a very volatile subject...surprises me a little that it would filter its way down to even a faith based eating plan.0 -
Just wanted to know if anyone has tried the Daniel Plan (GOD based Diet)?
Yes I did the Daniel Plan. The Daniel plan is completely different from the Daniel fast which does restrict foods based on biblical factors. In comparison the Daniel plan is about striving for a balance lifestyle (nutrition, exercise and spirituality). Go ahead and check it out, it's certainly something that you could follow while doing mfp.0 -
i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books
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From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.
First: swimming.
Second: Dog Walking
I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.
Mmmm, I think I could go for that Daniel [Craig] plan.
While I could go for that plan too, I'd be swapping out that corgi for a German shepherd or a husky. Don't think that corgi would get me very much cardio.0 -
:laugh:I love the idea of a God-based diet. You have to subsist on prayers and sacrifices and the terror and/or adoration of your flock.0 -
Amen!!From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.
First: swimming.
Second: Dog Walking
I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.0 -
i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books
this.0 -
If you are a Bible reader it states in the book of Daniel that they "looked better"...
If you're not a Bible reader it may be "a matter of preference" to you
I tried to read the Bible once, but I found the writing style heavy-handed and the characterizations a bit hollow.0 -
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