The Daniel Plan

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  • BeccaBollons
    BeccaBollons Posts: 652 Member
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    I think Daniel didn't want to eat the Babylonian king's delicacies due to the fact that they were unclean according to Jewish law and may have been used in sacrifice to foreign gods. (Daniel was in captivity in a foreign land.) It was a moral fast, not a diet or a desire to be healthier. He asked to just have veggies in order to avoid sacrificial meat, not meat in general. He felt that his God was worthy to be followed, so he did all he could to express that. His God wasn't forcing him to follow, just leading. We can follow anything...or any diet...we want. Choose today for yourself... but know what you're choosing. Research thoroughly all the different diets that you consider. Glad you asked about it.

    This was nicely put. Daniel and his three companions were aristocrats of Jewish society. They were hand picked by Babylonian officials to be trained in special service to the Babylonian king. They were well versed in Jewish law, and did not want to risk displeasing their God YHWH by eating food that was considered unclean according to the Mosaic Law. It was not a purposeful fast, just the 'clean eating' version of the time. Which people still do.
    They don't want to defile their bodies with 'chemicals' or 'pre-prepared' foods that they didn't have a hand in preparing. Usually now it is not for reasons of displeasing God, but eating a simpler diet can give one extra time to spend in prayer and meditation, and so the person feels closer to their God.
    Hmmm hope that makes sense.
  • sherm98
    sherm98 Posts: 61 Member
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    Wrong. I have thought them through very well. I'm a researcher by occupation. I just don't want to argue the point. I don't care to convince you. That's my right. I prefer to spend my energy on other things. I answered the OP questions and that's all. Have fun with the debate.
    To each his/ her own. If you want to know he science you can of it yourself and make your own decision. I'm convinced and it's working for me.
    Well, all the 'science' I have seen suggests otherwise.
    Perhaps you could direct us to what you have seen that's convinced you and explain your thinking around it.
    The problem I find with people that don't want to "get involved" is that all to often it's actually they don't like their own preconceptions being challenged because they haven't thought them through well enough!
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    What do you research?
  • 199WillDo
    199WillDo Posts: 87 Member
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    The Daniel fast is a plant based diet. Look in the book of Daniel. He didn't eat the kings meat (standard American diet) but instead ate pulse and beans and looked better than the kings men after. It's what science is telling us. Eat plant based non processed healthy food. Rick Warren just repackaged it for money. Google Daniel fast instead of Daniel plan.

    Amen Sister!
  • 199WillDo
    199WillDo Posts: 87 Member
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    The Daniel fast is a plant based diet. Look in the book of Daniel. He didn't eat the kings meat (standard American diet) but instead ate pulse and beans and looked better than the kings men after. It's what science is telling us. Eat plant based non processed healthy food. Rick Warren just repackaged it for money. Google Daniel fast instead of Daniel plan.

    Science doesn't tell us that at all. Also, "looked better" is very much a matter of preference.

    If you are a Bible reader it states in the book of Daniel that they "looked better"...

    If you're not a Bible reader it may be "a matter of preference" to you
  • RonnieLodge
    RonnieLodge Posts: 665 Member
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    From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.

    First: swimming.

    daniel_craig_bond_casino_royale.jpg


    Second: Dog Walking

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    I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.

    But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.

    ^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
    The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.
    http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/

    It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.
    Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.

    I didn't realize MFP filled with people of various religious backgrounds (or lack thereof) constituted as a small group. Good to know.

    Neither did I realize promoting it through various forms of media was also keeping it to a small group. :wink: Things you learn....
    Wouldn't know. I'm an atheist, so I usually ignore threads about God. :smile: Guess you could report the thread if it offends you.

    I am agnostic so I am mixed about "God threads". On a fitness site I am like you...I would probably ignore it. However...I think this place is big enough that if there are people that want a place to gather and do the Daniel Plan together I think that MFP can accommodate that myself.

    If an eating plan works for them that is inspired by their faith...then I say congratulations. We all need what inspires us.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,650 Member
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    Just to clear up one thing- There is a big difference between the Daniel FAST, which has been around for years, and the Daniel PLAN, which is a new God-based weight loss plan, created by Rick Warren with the help of some doctors, such as Dr Oz.

    The FAST is a temporary thing, whereas the PLAN is a lifestyle change, similar to the Paleo or Mediterranean Diet, with some adjustments, with a spiritual aspect to it, to be used by churches in a small group setting for support.
  • mathjulz
    mathjulz Posts: 5,514 Member
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    From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.

    First: swimming.

    daniel_craig_bond_casino_royale.jpg


    Second: Dog Walking

    screen-shot-2012-07-29-at-3-10-28-am1.png

    I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.

    Mmmm, I think I could go for that Daniel [Craig] plan.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    Just to clear up one thing- There is a big difference between the Daniel FAST, which has been around for years, and the Daniel PLAN, which is a new God-based weight loss plan, created by Rick Warren with the help of some doctors, such as Dr Oz.

    The FAST is a temporary thing, whereas the PLAN is a lifestyle change, similar to the Paleo or Mediterranean Diet, with some adjustments, with a spiritual aspect to it, to be used by churches in a small group setting for support.

    I think some of us understand that but it seems as if there is some confusion about the two.

    I know that religion is a very volatile subject...surprises me a little that it would filter its way down to even a faith based eating plan.
  • ba502
    ba502 Posts: 54 Member
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    Just wanted to know if anyone has tried the Daniel Plan (GOD based Diet)?

    Yes I did the Daniel Plan. The Daniel plan is completely different from the Daniel fast which does restrict foods based on biblical factors. In comparison the Daniel plan is about striving for a balance lifestyle (nutrition, exercise and spirituality). Go ahead and check it out, it's certainly something that you could follow while doing mfp.
  • Barbonica
    Barbonica Posts: 337 Member
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    i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books

    + 1
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
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    From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.

    First: swimming.

    daniel_craig_bond_casino_royale.jpg


    Second: Dog Walking

    screen-shot-2012-07-29-at-3-10-28-am1.png

    I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.

    Mmmm, I think I could go for that Daniel [Craig] plan.

    While I could go for that plan too, I'd be swapping out that corgi for a German shepherd or a husky. Don't think that corgi would get me very much cardio.
  • Sierry
    Sierry Posts: 6
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    I love the idea of a God-based diet. You have to subsist on prayers and sacrifices and the terror and/or adoration of your flock.
    :laugh:
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,655 Member
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    From the title I thought it would be something along the lines of a work out with Daniel Craig.

    First: swimming.

    daniel_craig_bond_casino_royale.jpg


    Second: Dog Walking

    screen-shot-2012-07-29-at-3-10-28-am1.png

    I'd be in for that Daniel Plan.
    Amen!!
  • _Giselle_
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    i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books

    this.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
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    If you are a Bible reader it states in the book of Daniel that they "looked better"...

    If you're not a Bible reader it may be "a matter of preference" to you

    I tried to read the Bible once, but I found the writing style heavy-handed and the characterizations a bit hollow.
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