cutting out sugar
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Annnnnd, cue the GIFS. Really??
To answer your question, MoreBean, lower triglycerides, higher HDL, lower LDL. Though I'm not convinced that lower total CHOL is better, but my ratios are ideal now. They were not when I ate much higher carb/sugar, despite being just as (or more) lean and 10+ years YOUNGER.
And I'm not here to argue the fact, or look at GIFS or any of that, just sharing my personal experience. It does blow me away, however, how many people seem so adamant on here about eating crap food. ??
Thanks for sharing, Fraumama. What you are reporting is exactly what is shown in medical literature and test trials.
Yes, but let's not discuss that here.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM currently watching this documentary about sugar
I would also suggest you read this. It is an extremely good counterpoint.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/0 -
The article was saying how sugar is an empty calorie, whereas fat is needed. Sugar is a pure "energy bomb" and serves no purpose in the diet, and is even thought to be tricking our brains into eating more than we need.
Yes, exactly. People get really emotional when you talk about the evils of sugar. That's because they are addicted.
You are funny.....and wrong...oh so wrong.0 -
The article was saying how sugar is an empty calorie, whereas fat is needed. Sugar is a pure "energy bomb" and serves no purpose in the diet, and is even thought to be tricking our brains into eating more than we need.
I kinda like energy when working out. Seems pretty useful to me.0 -
Sorry, worded that badly. Sugar really, really is the enemy because it is so high in calories, and it is in everything, and we don't notice it in our foods. But low-calorie foods often have high sugar contents, which deliver far more calories than, for example,t he same amount of fat. And a high carb, low fat diet contains loads of sugar - low fat foods are crammed with sugar.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM a good documentary on this phenomenon. around 39 mins he talks about diet foods.
wait so sugar is very high in calories, but low calorie foods have high sugar content? What the...... bro, do u even write?
I think they meant low fat foods, not low calorie foods. Low fat stuff is typically higher in sugar because they need something to make them taste good when you take out the fat!0 -
While some people can lose and/or maintain weight without giving up sugar, and that works for them, many people are/feel healthier and lose/maintain weight without sugar. I hate this idea that there should be a one-fits-all weight-management lifestyle because every person is different, which is why every study says something different.
I'm assuming that the main two issues with the abundance of sugar in processed foods is that sugar adds more calories to these foods and that, whether or not a physical sugar addiction exists, which is an entirely different issue, people can be psychologically addicted to sugar (because people can be psychologically addicted to anything), so they will eat more of it.
I'm also trying to limit my added sugars from processed foods in the new year. I get sick quite often (minor colds and things, but more often than normal for someone that's tested negative for autoimmune disorders) and added sugars and processed foods are the only thing not "clean" about my diet. Otherwise, I eat plenty of whole grains, lean protein, fruits, veggies, and healthy fats. I avoid dairy for health issues as well, but that is a different story entirely. When I was younger, I would always get sick (cold/sore throat) after sleepovers, which were always filled with sugar and processed foods. Something clicked and I thought that sugar/processed food could be the culprit. My boyfriend's mother went without sugar for years; although she gave it, she said she felt so healthy. My goal is to keep my sugar under MFP's limit, which is higher than suggested in the article you read, but since I used to go over the limit daily, I feel like it is a good place to start. If I don't see my health improve in the next year, I'll go back to eating sugar/processed food. One issue I'm having now is one many people have when they start counting calories: finding the hidden sugars. I had no idea how sugary hoisin sauce was until I logged it in my stir-fry! I've started using the Fooducate app to find out more about my packaged foods and how processed they are, and it alerts me to added sugars.
If TL;DR, I think it's worth giving it a shot. Everyone's different and it may help you. Best of luck on your journey to a healthy lifestyle!0 -
Annnnnd, cue the GIFS. Really??
To answer your question, MoreBean, lower triglycerides, higher HDL, lower LDL. Though I'm not convinced that lower total CHOL is better, but my ratios are ideal now. They were not when I ate much higher carb/sugar, despite being just as (or more) lean and 10+ years YOUNGER.
And I'm not here to argue the fact, or look at GIFS or any of that, just sharing my personal experience. It does blow me away, however, how many people seem so adamant on here about eating crap food. ??
I think people are trying to make the point that there are no "bad" or "good" foods, there is just food that you eat for energy. consume too much of it and you get obese, consume less of it you lose weight, consume the right amounts and hit macros and you can recomp your body….
People get into trouble when they label food as "bad" and then attempt to entirely climate that food from their diet, which leads to binging and failure….this also overcomplicates things….just eat for what your goals are and don't worry about what is supposedly good or bad...0 -
THIS. People don't pay attention to calorie intake and that's why they are fat.The obesity epidemic is not because of sugar. It's from eating too much of anything. Good luck cutting out sugar. Sugar is a carb and carbs are apart of a balanced diet. I've learned, for me, that to make my diet sustainable for life, cutting things were unnecessary. I eat the same things I always do and will, just in smaller portions and being mindful of my macronutrient ratios.
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Thank you for posting the link to the Alan Aragon blog; saved me hunting for it again.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM currently watching this documentary about sugar
I would also suggest you read this. It is an extremely good counterpoint.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
Sugar is a carb. Your body needs carbs. Unless you're a diabetic, prediabetic, hypoglycemic, or otherwise specifically instructed to do so by a competent medical professional, there's no reason to treat sugar as any different from other carbs.0 -
Processed food = sugar! Ketchup, hamburgers, mustard, cereal, fruit yogurt, chocholate milk, bread, salad dressings, flavoured water, canned food, "healthy" bars, even dried fruit has added sugar. Yesterday I saw so called diet yogurt with 0.1 % of fat and 26 g of added sugar. Oh, well...
yeah exactly - that in eating "diet" food we end up gaining weight
No. You gain weight eating in a calorie surplus. Not because of sugar. An imbalanced diet might make you feel crappy but you can't gain weight without eating over maintenance.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1112412--the-problem-with-sugar-is-your-problem-with-sugar?hl=Your+problem+with+sugar
Sorry, worded that badly. Sugar really, really is the enemy because it is so high in calories, and it is in everything, and we don't notice it in our foods. But low-calorie foods often have high sugar contents, which deliver far more calories than, for example,t he same amount of fat. And a high carb, low fat diet contains loads of sugar - low fat foods are crammed with sugar.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM a good documentary on this phenomenon. around 39 mins he talks about diet foods.
Sugar is a carb and has 4 calories per gram.
Fat has 9 calories per gram.
Also, if you know the amount of sugar (thanks to a food label) you can also see the amount of calories. THAT'S the number that will affect weight gain (aside from a medical condition). Body composition is a slightly different story.
That being said, just because something is low-fat, doesn't mean it's better. Check the calories.
if sugar makes you crave and eat MORE than your TDEE, then that's a matter of self control, not the sugar itself.
If I don't get enough carbs before I lift, I can't lift as much and that makes me a sad panda. :sad:0 -
Good comments - Read that article as well. Log onto utube and watch the lecture about Fructose - "Sugar the bitter truth" by Dr Lustig . I was horrified about the facts he spoke about and more so about the way the food industry has known about it for 30 years.0
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Again, read Alan Aragon's response to Lustig, or even watch the youtube video of it.Good comments - Read that article as well. Log onto utube and watch the lecture about Fructose - "Sugar the bitter truth" by Dr Lustig . I was horrified about the facts he spoke about and more so about the way the food industry has known about it for 30 years.0 -
You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.0
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Sugar doesn't cause obesity, people cause obesity, by eating to much and not moving!!!!
The evil sugar, :laugh: (in a evil voice), I think I will go have some ice cream, may even have an extra scoop!!! :bigsmile:0 -
You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
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You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
Except the fact that even the American Diabetes Association says too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. There is no link between any one food that contributes to diabetes.0 -
You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
Except the fact that even the American Diabetes Association says too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. There is no link between any one food that contributes to diabetes.
I don't think you are correct. According to the ADA, on their web page diabetes.org, they do state sugar is associated to diabetes type 2. Here's a quote from ADA:
Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.
The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:
regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!0 -
I am pretty sure that I could drop these last 16 pesky pounds if I cut out those 300 calories a day worth of sugary "snacks" that I so often have, even on 1200 kcals a day. Pretty surely, I packed them on by eating maintenance plus the 300 calories. That's nearly 3 lbs a month of pure empty calories. Over 10 months, that's 30 lbs!
It would be a good idea to give up the evil sugar while trying to lose weight quickly but I doubt I could ever give up the cake forever. Plan for maintenance: eat 1200 calories of real food + have a sugary snack = bliss.0 -
You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
Except the fact that even the American Diabetes Association says too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. There is no link between any one food that contributes to diabetes.
I don't think you are correct. According to the ADA, on their web page diabetes.org, they do state sugar is associated to diabetes type 2. Here's a quote from ADA:
Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.
The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:
regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!
QFT^^
Sugar is associated with diabetes and insulin resistance. The ADA actually gives some of the worst advice to diabetics. They recommend literally hundreds of grams of carbs per day when many diabetics could limit carbs and significantly stabilize blood sugar.
Consumption of sugar causes your body to release insulin. Insulin causes your body to store fat which causes your body to burn sugar. Eventually your body consumes the sugar, but the insulin is still hanging around. You then feel hungry and desire more sugar.0 -
I prefer avoiding added sugars, and with that really I cut allot of processed foods as allot of things have sugar under one name or another. I only avoided the added crap, including the likes of aspartame, not fruit and wholegrains.
It suits me well, I find my hunger levels go down substantially and eating less is way easier compared to when I eat sugary stuff.0 -
You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
Except the fact that even the American Diabetes Association says too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. There is no link between any one food that contributes to diabetes.
I don't think you are correct. According to the ADA, on their web page diabetes.org, they do state sugar is associated to diabetes type 2. Here's a quote from ADA:
Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.
The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:
regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!
QFT^^
Sugar is associated with diabetes and insulin resistance. The ADA actually gives some of the worst advice to diabetics. They recommend literally hundreds of grams of carbs per day when many diabetics could limit carbs and significantly stabilize blood sugar.
Consumption of sugar causes your body to release insulin. Insulin causes your body to store fat which causes your body to burn sugar. Eventually your body consumes the sugar, but the insulin is still hanging around. You then feel hungry and desire more sugar.
I'm in total agreement with you, bpotts44.0 -
Learn all the different names that sugar goes by. You will be shocked how much sugar is in our foods. There are some very good publications on how to safely eliminate too much sugar from your diet and what to use as replacements. Good Luck!0
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You never hear advice that it is okay to smoke in moderation because it causes cancer, but you continually hear on these boards that refined sugar is okay in moderation despite the fact that it causes diabetes.
Except the fact that even the American Diabetes Association says too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. There is no link between any one food that contributes to diabetes.
I don't think you are correct. According to the ADA, on their web page diabetes.org, they do state sugar is associated to diabetes type 2. Here's a quote from ADA:
Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.
The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:
regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!
ADA website: http://m.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/
Myth: diabetes is caused by eating too much sugar
Fact: Type two is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors.
The ADA seems to state pretty plainly that too much sugar causing diabetes is a myth. Like. Literally calls it a myth. Not much up to interpretation there, actually.
Sugary drinks are linked to obesity which is linked to diabetes but A being linked to B and B being linked to C doesn't mean you can draw a link from A to C.0 -
I love sugar and sugary foods but I noticed it does create problems for me, health wise, so I have tried to cut down a lot on sugars but not cut it out completely. Fruits and other healthy things have sugars in them. Just read labels and get low sugar foods.0
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Sugar is just a carb. Barring specific health issues, I.e. diabetes, There's no reason to cut it out of your diet. It's long, but worth the read:
http://www.fitnessbaddies.com/your-problem-with-sugar-is-the-problem-with-sugar/0 -
interpreted as sloth/glutton by those without the challenge.
What the hell
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QFT^^
Sugar is associated with diabetes and insulin resistance. The ADA actually gives some of the worst advice to diabetics. They recommend literally hundreds of grams of carbs per day when many diabetics could limit carbs and significantly stabilize blood sugar.
Consumption of sugar causes your body to release insulin. Insulin causes your body to store fat which causes your body to burn sugar. Eventually your body consumes the sugar, but the insulin is still hanging around. You then feel hungry and desire more sugar.
This is absolutely why I've made the decision to limit processed foods and sugars. My father developed Type 2 diabetes in his older years and I firmly believe that it was because of his candy addiction. My father was a recovering alcoholic--sober through A. A. for 52 years when he passed away. Like so many addicts, my father traded sugar for alcohol. And now, I've been trying to get my Type 2 diabetic sweetie to limit his sugar and carb intake for years, but he's addicted and won't give up his sodas and white sourdough toast. He carries his weight around his middle and there's nothing anyone can tell me that will make me believe that the processed foods and sugars he downs daily are not responsible for his health condition, even though the amount of food he eats every day is reasonable and not excessive.
I choose a healthier life.0 -
QFT^^
Sugar is associated with diabetes and insulin resistance. The ADA actually gives some of the worst advice to diabetics. They recommend literally hundreds of grams of carbs per day when many diabetics could limit carbs and significantly stabilize blood sugar.
Consumption of sugar causes your body to release insulin. Insulin causes your body to store fat which causes your body to burn sugar. Eventually your body consumes the sugar, but the insulin is still hanging around. You then feel hungry and desire more sugar.
This is absolutely why I've made the decision to limit processed foods and sugars. My father developed Type 2 diabetes in his older years and I firmly believe that it was because of his candy addiction. My father was a recovering alcoholic--sober through A. A. for 52 years when he passed away. Like so many addicts, my father traded sugar for alcohol. And now, I've been trying to get my Type 2 diabetic sweetie to limit his sugar and carb intake for years, but he's addicted and won't give up his sodas and white sourdough toast. He carries his weight around his middle and there's nothing anyone can tell me that will make me believe that the processed foods and sugars he downs daily are not responsible for his health condition, even though the amount of food he eats every day is reasonable and not excessive.
I choose a healthier life.
The reason for his health issues is he eats to much and does not exercise!!!0 -
QFT^^
Sugar is associated with diabetes and insulin resistance. The ADA actually gives some of the worst advice to diabetics. They recommend literally hundreds of grams of carbs per day when many diabetics could limit carbs and significantly stabilize blood sugar.
Consumption of sugar causes your body to release insulin. Insulin causes your body to store fat which causes your body to burn sugar. Eventually your body consumes the sugar, but the insulin is still hanging around. You then feel hungry and desire more sugar.
This is absolutely why I've made the decision to limit processed foods and sugars. My father developed Type 2 diabetes in his older years and I firmly believe that it was because of his candy addiction. My father was a recovering alcoholic--sober through A. A. for 52 years when he passed away. Like so many addicts, my father traded sugar for alcohol. And now, I've been trying to get my Type 2 diabetic sweetie to limit his sugar and carb intake for years, but he's addicted and won't give up his sodas and white sourdough toast. He carries his weight around his middle and there's nothing anyone can tell me that will make me believe that the processed foods and sugars he downs daily are not responsible for his health condition, even though the amount of food he eats every day is reasonable and not excessive.
I choose a healthier life.
The reason for his health issues is he eats to much and does not exercise!!!
Now there's a solid internet diagnosis.
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Christianwife, very bold to presume her husband is fat due to eating to much and not exercising. I hope you are not making these statements of fact over the internet based on a few sentences posted by his wife without so much as even knowing his name. This is why these forums are mostly bad advice and full of personal bias. WoW!0
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