Eat McDonald's, lose wight, set terrible example
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I could probably live without it for a couple months, but I guess I'd have to give in eventually.I"m VERY addicted to food. I literally can't live without it.
Good point.
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McDonalds isn't the root of all evil. A multitude of companies market unhealthy foods to the general public. It’s our choice as the consumer what we choose to buy. The best thing anyone can do is make healthy choices for themselves and hope that other people do the same.
I remember working with a lady who I worked with as a teenager (ironically in fast food) who complained that Gatorade gave her young daughter diabetes and how she hated it. She told me it’s all her daughter ever drank because she thought it was healthy. I didn’t know what to say so I just explained that they were loaded with sugar and are not really juice. Her mind was blown.
People need to be educated on nutrition and then the choices they make from there are there’s to live with. Can’t blame the golden arches when your heart craps out at 35.0 -
Maybe its just an extreme way of highlighting what is lacking in the education system here in the UK and maybe in America as well.
What has been done does not worry me in the slightest and maybe, just maybe it will get enough people talking in the right places so that nutrition gets to play a much bigger part in education from a young age.
There will be many of us who try and teach our children about nutrition, reading food labeling, what constitutes a healthy choice (yes you can even get those from McDonalds) but that isn't a given.
If we want to cut down on the rates of obesity then we need to start educating people from an early age. Yes there will still be those that choose to be unhealthy, eat to much, exercise to little but at the end of the day there would be nothing to blame but but bad choices0 -
I'm not bothered, but I'm not indifferent. Although the teacher did not intend to set a bad example, I think this a bad example for any reader/viewer. While McDonald's does offer oatmeal, salad, etc., the connotation of Big Macs, fries, and hashbrowns will be primarily evoked.
Many of the above posters are entitled to their opinions, as is the original poster of this particular topic.
I would hope that in the future the MFP community would be a little less judgmental, given the circumstances.
Please elaborate on the circumstances.
Of course. Myfitnesspal is supposed to be a community. Each of us have goals--to lose weight, to gain weight, to gain muscle, to improve our health, etc. It is with the support of the community and of our friends that are we motivated to see our true potential and to make better choices. If a user posts a topic, it should be with the comfort that he/she will not be criticized for their opinion. We are all confiding in each other, and in a sense, we are making ourselves vulnerable to each other. I am not saying it is another person's duty to sugarcoat anything, but making posts such as a picture of ridicule that read "stop whining" (among other insulting phrases and remarks) is just insensitive.
While many might derive their motivation from the community here personally I seek to find the motivation within myself. I use this site mainly to read opinions of others and what works for them...think about if it might be something that would add to my own efforts.
It is the nature of the "web" not only on MP but across the board for people to reveal a side of themselves that they can't always offline. You can either let it offend you or move on with why you are really here. In the end does it really matter what some anonymous person really thinks? Not to me...I will continue to gather information...research it...and apply what might be applicable to me.
It would be a lovely world if we could ALL be kind and compassionate...but due to human nature...that won't happen. Get your support from those that you feel are sincere and from within yourself...scroll on by those that seem to find their "joy" by other means.0 -
I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.
^^^ also confused about meaning of illuminate0 -
I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.
^^^ doesn't know what illuminate means either
Didn't understand either so I looked it up and had to sort through the many definitions from www.thefreedictionary.com to choose what I believe is the correct one in this situation but I could be wrong
3. To make understandable; clarify
4. To enlighten intellectually or spiritually; enable to understand
Or it could be
2. To provide intellectual or spiritual enlightenment and understanding
Or even
One who has or professes to have an unusual degree of enlightenment
Hope that helps
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This is a prime example of having too many variables in a scientific study. Yes he ate McDonald's and lost weight. However he also exercised and chose healthier options at McDonald's. I think part of his study was to show that it is no McDonald's that is contributing to obesity, but that it is the people's choices that they make at this particular establishment. Granted I don't think he did this is the best way, but at least he was able to show people that you can eat healthy there AND that exercise does work.0
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I cant understand why anyone would be bothered? I did read and watch the entire story. He was teaching his class about choices and eating healthy ( With his students working together to plan all his meals and making them fit in nutritional guidelines) . Allocating where he spends his calories and he also started a work out routine. He showed that you can have the burger as long as you balance your meals and hold yourself accountable. He had salads, egg white wraps ect and used the smart choices. A lot of young teenagers live at McDonalds n BK and it contributes to the obesity of school age children. Why not educate them?0
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Why is this is bad? He showed that physics works. Go in calorie deficit and you will lose weight. There is no muh genetics, muh stress, muh this and that, just simple physics.0
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he also stayed with in 2000 calories0
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I think that it's totally possible to lose weight eating only McDonalds, it just depends on the caloric intake. You can choose to have a salad and water there for lunch, or you could choose the quarter pounder large meal with a large Coke. It just depends on the choices you make, showing that fast food restaurants are not as bad as they were made out to be, say, 10 years ago, because a lot of them switched to healthier menu choices, ex: no trans fat and no super sizing.
However, I think it was a bad idea to bring into the classroom. Especially of teenagers, many of them susceptible to eating disorders, and teaching them a "diet" at that age, making them plan meals for him, shouldn't be happening: it's his own business to lose weight.0 -
This did not bother me in the least. What surprised me was that as much information is readily available out there to show you that you can still eat at fast food restaurants( and make healthy choices there, ie the oatmeal), that this was made into a rather large story. Bottom line, burn more than you eat and make healthy choices and within moderation, you can enjoy what you like. It amazes me that we make nutrition more complicated than it should be!0
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I think the point is plain and simple. The foods you choose to eat make you fat, whether it is food from McDonalds or foods you eat at any other restaurant. You choose what you eat. You choose how well you take care of your body. You could cook food at home every night and still get fat if you are making the wrong food choices or cooking foods in butter. You can't blame a food chain for your bad food choices. Plain and simple.
LOLwhat?
(That's not entirely fair. Much of your post was right, even if it was for the wrong reasons.)
The *amount* of foods you eat make you fat. Well, more accurately, the calorific content of the foods you eat make you fat (or not). "Wrong food choices" might make make you malnourished (or weak, lethargic, etc.), but won't necessarily make you fat. And "cooking foods in butter" doesn't make you fat...it makes the food delicious...because butter.0 -
Find a way to eat within moderate caloric intake limits while eating out?
I agree, that's appalling. I don't want to stop eating McDonald's when I'm full...I want to stop when I hate my self. That's the better approach.0 -
I think that it's totally possible to lose weight eating only McDonalds, it just depends on the caloric intake. You can choose to have a salad and water there for lunch, or you could choose the quarter pounder large meal with a large Coke. It just depends on the choices you make, showing that fast food restaurants are not as bad as they were made out to be, say, 10 years ago, because a lot of them switched to healthier menu choices, ex: no trans fat and no super sizing.
However, I think it was a bad idea to bring into the classroom. Especially of teenagers, many of them susceptible to eating disorders, and teaching them a "diet" at that age, making them plan meals for him, shouldn't be happening: it's his own business to lose weight.
So teenagers shouldn't learn how to moderate intake? It's a shame then that this is something taught in elementary...0 -
chocolate is also addictive, so is sugar, should that be put off the shelves as well? Let's face it, if we are people on this site that have struggled with food addiction (doesn't matter what type of food btw), then you are an addict. If you're an achololic, drinking organic beer isn't going to be any better for you.0
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I think that it's totally possible to lose weight eating only McDonalds, it just depends on the caloric intake. You can choose to have a salad and water there for lunch, or you could choose the quarter pounder large meal with a large Coke. It just depends on the choices you make, showing that fast food restaurants are not as bad as they were made out to be, say, 10 years ago, because a lot of them switched to healthier menu choices, ex: no trans fat and no super sizing.
However, I think it was a bad idea to bring into the classroom. Especially of teenagers, many of them susceptible to eating disorders, and teaching them a "diet" at that age, making them plan meals for him, shouldn't be happening: it's his own business to lose weight.
So teenagers shouldn't learn how to moderate intake? It's a shame then that this is something taught in elementary...
Children SHOULD be taught about portion control and nutrient content. The earlier the better. "Diet" actually refers to the food people eat, not to a phase of calorie restriction. My children are 7, 5, and 3 and I already try to teach them what is "healthy" food, what are "good" snacks, what are "sometimes" foods and that eating too much is very "unhealthy". I don't ever mention a desire for them or myself to be "skinny". I don't ever warn them not to be fat. It's all about health, energy, etc.0 -
Since many people are bothered by being shown that they are wrong, and this debunks the 'mcdonalds is bad for you' myth so many hold dear, it would not be surprising at all to hear that people are bothered by it.http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/01/06/mcdonald_s_diet_high_school_teacher_john_cisna_loses_37_pounds_sets_terrible.html
So this happened. Is anyone else really bothered by this??0 -
This:Why should someone be bothered by this?
And this:This only proves that you don't have to know very much about nutrition and get published.
Personally, I would have chosen Taco Bell or Sonic. I hate McDonald's.0 -
Back in the days when I could even eat at those places, I think I would have gone with Wendy's.This:Why should someone be bothered by this?
And this:This only proves that you don't have to know very much about nutrition and get published.
Personally, I would have chosen Taco Bell or Sonic. I hate McDonald's.0 -
Heh heh you learned him real good.I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.
^^^ doesn't know what illuminate means either
Didn't understand either so I looked it up and had to sort through the many definitions from www.thefreedictionary.com to choose what I believe is the correct one in this situation but I could be wrong
3. To make understandable; clarify
4. To enlighten intellectually or spiritually; enable to understand
Or it could be
2. To provide intellectual or spiritual enlightenment and understanding
Or even
One who has or professes to have an unusual degree of enlightenment
Hope that helps0 -
I would hope that in the future the MFP community would be a little less judgmental, given the circumstances.
:huh:
So we need to be less judgmental be being more annoyed with what other people eat?
No, not at all. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If the OP is bothered by a certain article that is going viral, so be it. This topic should incite controversy. However, many of the responses are just rude.
the OP is rude and judgmental
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Walter White?0
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HOw is this a terrible example? Isn't showing that you can make healthy choices and stick to a diet even if you are rushed for time or on a short budget a good thing?
I agree, I don't think it's a bad example. Actually, it would probably help many people if they are stuck without options and have to go to McDs yet want to make better choices. And I'm with many people here that cutting out "all bad foods" isn't always the way to go; moderation is better and more sustainable (at least for me).0 -
I think the point is plain and simple. The foods you choose to eat make you fat, whether it is food from McDonalds or foods you eat at any other restaurant. You choose what you eat. You choose how well you take care of your body. You could cook food at home every night and still get fat if you are making the wrong food choices or cooking foods in butter. You can't blame a food chain for your bad food choices. Plain and simple.
LOLwhat?
(That's not entirely fair. Much of your post was right, even if it was for the wrong reasons.)
The *amount* of foods you eat make you fat. Well, more accurately, the calorific content of the foods you eat make you fat (or not). "Wrong food choices" might make make you malnourished (or weak, lethargic, etc.), but won't necessarily make you fat. And "cooking foods in butter" doesn't make you fat...it makes the food delicious...because butter.
I cook my eggs in bacon grease. I'm DOOMED! lol0 -
Yes. I am incredibly bothered by the fact that Slate has turned into a bunch of trolls from top to bottom.
This too!
I used to love Slate, but the last few years, it has gone down the toilet.0 -
I think that it's totally possible to lose weight eating only McDonalds, it just depends on the caloric intake. You can choose to have a salad and water there for lunch, or you could choose the quarter pounder large meal with a large Coke. It just depends on the choices you make, showing that fast food restaurants are not as bad as they were made out to be, say, 10 years ago, because a lot of them switched to healthier menu choices, ex: no trans fat and no super sizing.
However, I think it was a bad idea to bring into the classroom. Especially of teenagers, many of them susceptible to eating disorders, and teaching them a "diet" at that age, making them plan meals for him, shouldn't be happening: it's his own business to lose weight.
So teenagers shouldn't learn how to moderate intake? It's a shame then that this is something taught in elementary...
Children SHOULD be taught about portion control and nutrient content. The earlier the better. "Diet" actually refers to the food people eat, not to a phase of calorie restriction. My children are 7, 5, and 3 and I already try to teach them what is "healthy" food, what are "good" snacks, what are "sometimes" foods and that eating too much is very "unhealthy". I don't ever mention a desire for them or myself to be "skinny". I don't ever warn them not to be fat. It's all about health, energy, etc.
Calorie restriction is a reality at any age. Eating within your calories is important for staying healthy. It doesn't have to be about being skinny. The teacher lost weight, improving at least one of his health markers. How is that not a valid lesson?
Given that being obese increases chances of all kinds of negative health effects, it might be something you want to consider mentioning to them. How you present the message so that it doesn't also give them an unhealthy relationship with food matters, and is not an easy task, but I don't think that means you shouldn't mention weight as a concern at all. It is a concern.0 -
Personally... I don't eat McDonalds. I'd rather eat real food. But... if you can't cook... don't care to.. and Love crappy fast food... I guess its good to know you can make better choices whilst you're there to keep youself from packing on the lbs. Their choice, their life. As long as they don't tie me to a chair and force feed it to me we're cool.0
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Walter White?
Are you sure?
Didn't think so.
Now say my name.0 -
I just realized what it is about this that rustles the jimmies of many:
It shows that it actually *is* possible to eat even the "crappiest of crap food" and not eat to excess...and it highlights that the excuse of "once I start eating 'crap' food I just can't stop" is just that: an excuse.
Jof hit the nail on the head. Cheers! :flowerforyou:0
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