Eat McDonald's, lose wight, set terrible example
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This year, I've decided just to nod and smile because they ignored my advice...
I think I am going to start doing this for some of these threads around here.0 -
5 Pages and nobody has mentioned this gem from the article?What’s more, there’s not even strong evidence that losing weight is good for you.
I mean, seriously?0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
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I don't think his point was to be a terrible example. He stayed within the guidelines of our own governments daily recommendations. Would I do that? No. I think the point is that it is possible to make better choices no matter where you eat. I actually takes a lot of restraint to keep within those guidelines at a fast food restaurant. Also, why does everyone always pick on McDonalds? After all, there are many chain restaurants people eat at that are horrible for you! TGIF for one! Chili's is another. So stop being so hypocritical. He is a science teacher, and I do believe he proved his point. This is a free country after all. We should not be told what we can or cannot eat. It's all about choices folks.0
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great post instead of all the hysteria over this0
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FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
And here we go. /tinfoil
Obviously McDonald's donated the food to help dispel the whole fast food makes you fat myth. Nothing wrong with that.0 -
5 Pages and nobody has mentioned this gem from the article?What’s more, there’s not even strong evidence that losing weight is good for you.
I mean, seriously?
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FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
I think you're confused about what addictive means.0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
I think you're confused about what addictive means.
It means "has the gall to taste good" right? Or so MFP would have me believe.0 -
I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.0 -
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
I ate McDonald's or Burger King or Wendy's or something like that nearly every day in high schoo. I enjoyed it. (I was also teeny tiny). When I got pregnant. just the smell of the smell of those places made me pukey and I couldn't set foot near them, much less eat the food.
It took years to be able to go to those restaurants and then I could only eat the chicken, never the hamburger again. And then I went vegetarian and it was easy as pie to give up eating any of that food ever, except the occassional fries if we're on the road and there's no other choice.
So maybe it's just my lack of an addictive personality, but I never had a problem NOT eating fast food even after eating it daily for years.0 -
bothered?0
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I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.
Illuminate? :huh:0 -
I think you're confused about what addictive means.
I don't think I am but I would love for you to illuminate me.
I'm not sure this is that kind of website.0 -
I'm worried people will browse the title and all they'll get out of it is "eat McDonalds and lose weight". People without common sense will use this to further justify their burger run.
So because some people are stupid, a teacher shouldn't teach his kids about healthy choices, nutrition, and calorie counting? I sincerely hope you were joking.
I sincerely hope you don't regularly take one comment and apply to a completely unrelated idea.0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
No, it was good PR for McDonald's. it's called marketing and its a necessary function of a free market society.
Subway paid Jared handsomely for something not so different.
Whole Foods would do something similar if it would be profitable for them. It wouldn't be.0 -
HOw is this a terrible example? Isn't showing that you can make healthy choices and stick to a diet even if you are rushed for time or on a short budget a good thing?
This.0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
Wait....what? The last thing I want after eating McDonalds is more McDonalds....I really only crave a nap.....are you saying that McDonalds is really a couch and mattress cabal and the entire plan is to sell more comfy sofas?0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
Damn, I didn't realize McDonald's sold crack . . . last time I looked at the menu it was (highly processed) food.
They provided it for free because 1) they were also interested in the results (although anyone with any knowledge would know the outcome if he was limiting himself to 2000 calories per day and starting to exercise), and 2) regardless of the results it's cheap advertising . . .0 -
I think the point is plain and simple. The foods you choose to eat make you fat, whether it is food from McDonalds or foods you eat at any other restaurant. You choose what you eat. You choose how well you take care of your body. You could cook food at home every night and still get fat if you are making the wrong food choices or cooking foods in butter. You can't blame a food chain for your bad food choices. Plain and simple.0
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I'm worried people will browse the title and all they'll get out of it is "eat McDonalds and lose weight". People without common sense will use this to further justify their burger run. Fortunately the majority of us just shrug it off because we know how to eat.
So to answer the question it bothers me, but mostly it just makes me nauseous at the idea. I mean, couldn't he have chosen Jack in the Box or In N Out?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious? If serious, then of course you can still eat McDonalds and lose weight. I ate fast food 3-4 times a week while losing over 50lbs. I now eat out 3-4 times a week and I'm rocking maintenance, and my last blood test results were about as close to perfect as you can get (including no longer having a glucose number in the pre-diabetic range). But, I changed what I was ordering-no more regular soda, no more extra sauce, no more large shakes or orders of mozzarella sticks by myself (now I share them with hubby) etc.
If you were being sarcastic, then never-mind :laugh:
I almost always mix a little bit of sarcasm into my seriousness I know people CAN eat it, heck I eat out pretty regularly myself. I was referring to those people who don't watch what they eat , don't know how to eat or who are very impressionable. Doesn't really apply to us here on MFP (mostly). I'm thinking some will use it as an excuse to bolster their unhealthy choices as opposed to learning how to make healthier choices when they go out, like you do and I do. And FYI, this is one of my few sarcasm free posts!
Ah gotcha-we're on the same page here0 -
FYI... worked as a supplier to McDonalds for two years, growing all of their lettuce and other fresh vegetables used in their stores. As part of that, I was sent to their quality training school, and I can tell you that they are very conscious of the SUPER SIZE ME tag,
But that the first thing anyone in McD management will tell you is that they base their meals on solid nutritional guidelines and use healthy parameters.
They can't help that an idiot like me used to go into McD and order a Big Mac meal with a Diet Coke and then order a filet of fish on the side, with a 5 piece McNuggets and then toss on a ice cream cone or McFlurry. (that incidentally is close to 2000 calories).
The value meals were built around balancing the nutritional macros. The original Big Mac Value Meal was a Big Mac, the SMALL fries, and a 12oz (SMALL) Coke. All told about 920 calories. If that's all you eat, the nutrition is there. Fat is slightly higher than you like, but it is manageable.
My point is that McD gets a bad rap for having unhealthy food, but they shouldn't get the rap for poor food choices by the consumer. They only OFFER to super size because customers want that bigger box of fries and the larger drink.. No one forces a consumer to drink SUGAR Coke, over Diet Coke. No one forces the customer to use 6 packets of Ketchup (10 calories each), or to use the dipping sauce for nuggets.
I no longer work for them, but this teachers experiment shows that by controlling what you eat, and adding simple WALKING, you can lose weight, even if it is FAST FOOD.
The cool part is that he had his students develop the menus by researching the nutritional info and meeting healthy targets... what a skill to have in our society today.
McDonald's sells a highly addictive product (food that is high in sugar, fat, and salt) so for them to hide behind "no one forces the customer to buy it," excuse is disingenuous. McDonald's (and other fast food chains) are in the business of creating addicts pure and simple. Notice that in the story the local McDonald's provided the food to the teacher for free, it would be pretty naive to think that was done purely in the spirit of educating his students.
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I"m VERY addicted to food. I literally can't live without it.0
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I'm worried people will browse the title and all they'll get out of it is "eat McDonalds and lose weight". People without common sense will use this to further justify their burger run. Fortunately the majority of us just shrug it off because we know how to eat.
So to answer the question it bothers me, but mostly it just makes me nauseous at the idea. I mean, couldn't he have chosen Jack in the Box or In N Out?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious? If serious, then of course you can still eat McDonalds and lose weight. I ate fast food 3-4 times a week while losing over 50lbs. I now eat out 3-4 times a week and I'm rocking maintenance, and my last blood test results were about as close to perfect as you can get (including no longer having a glucose number in the pre-diabetic range). But, I changed what I was ordering-no more regular soda, no more extra sauce, no more large shakes or orders of mozzarella sticks by myself (now I share them with hubby) etc.
If you were being sarcastic, then never-mind :laugh:
I almost always mix a little bit of sarcasm into my seriousness I know people CAN eat it, heck I eat out pretty regularly myself. I was referring to those people who don't watch what they eat , don't know how to eat or who are very impressionable. Doesn't really apply to us here on MFP (mostly). I'm thinking some will use it as an excuse to bolster their unhealthy choices as opposed to learning how to make healthier choices when they go out, like you do and I do. And FYI, this is one of my few sarcasm free posts!
Ah gotcha-we're on the same page here
Anybody who gets that message from this experiment is either A) immature or Ignorant. I think the message is loud and clear. You have the power to choose what you eat and how you take care of your body. Make the right choices, McDonalds or No Mcdonalds, and you will be healthy...it's all about the choices you make. Be smart about it. Period.0 -
Oh I love watching the jimmies being rustled by the "clean", "paleo", "organic","natural" eaters. They must be jelly that this teacher lost more weight than they did.0
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A burger won't make you fat, it's how many and how often. You can't blame your food addictions on a restaurant chain. You have to take responsibility for yourself and your choices. This is what I truly believe.0
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Oh I love watching the jimmies being rustled by the "clean", "paleo", "organic","natural" eaters. They must be jelly that this teacher lost more weight than they did.
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Can someone illuminate me too?
ETA.....posted too quick!
I think it's clear that the real problem is that we here in North America don't have nearly enough fast food rehabilitation clinics. Forget drugs and alcohol, we should be dealing with the McD's addicts. Those "chef's" in the "kitchen" alledgedly preparing what some of us consider "food". Nah, they are up in there cooking "addiction". It's kinda like meth. But not.0 -
HOw is this a terrible example? Isn't showing that you can make healthy choices and stick to a diet even if you are rushed for time or on a short budget a good thing?
This shows you can eat fast food (picking healthy food, sticking to a calorie/macro target) and still lose weight.0 -
HOw is this a terrible example? Isn't showing that you can make healthy choices and stick to a diet even if you are rushed for time or on a short budget a good thing?
This shows you can eat fast food (picking healthy food, sticking to a calorie/macro target) and still lose weight.
Say it girl!0
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