Sugar Sugar Sugar Sugar!
savannahribeiro
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So, I was sitting on the couch with my mother last night. She is a huge proponent of eating healthy and exercise, and she knows how many problems I've had with my weight loss. She tossed an issue of National Geographic into my lap with the cover being a yummy looking cupcake with pink frosting and she told me to read it.
"Sugar, A Not so Sweet Story" was the title. I chuckled. I began to read. I figured it would just rehash whatever stuff I'd heard before --- carbs are the enemy, pop is bad, America is fat, et al. I was soon to be proven dreadfully wrong. The article, which is quite a good read (I will contain a link in this post to it on the NG website), details the problems with sugar in today's diet --- everything from added sugar, corn syrup, sucralose, and all of those other sugar chemicals. It tells of how diabetes and other health problems are arising --- due to an excessively high amount of sugar in the food we eat. It even discusses how the slave trade began, because of a demand for sugar. Most doctors are now agreeing that sugar, not fat, is the main reason for weight gain, diabetes, and a host of cardiovascular problems. It is a food for thought story. Please read it --- it's a very good article
I figured to post in this thread since it is directly related to food and eating.
ENJOY!
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/08/sugar/cohen-text
"Sugar, A Not so Sweet Story" was the title. I chuckled. I began to read. I figured it would just rehash whatever stuff I'd heard before --- carbs are the enemy, pop is bad, America is fat, et al. I was soon to be proven dreadfully wrong. The article, which is quite a good read (I will contain a link in this post to it on the NG website), details the problems with sugar in today's diet --- everything from added sugar, corn syrup, sucralose, and all of those other sugar chemicals. It tells of how diabetes and other health problems are arising --- due to an excessively high amount of sugar in the food we eat. It even discusses how the slave trade began, because of a demand for sugar. Most doctors are now agreeing that sugar, not fat, is the main reason for weight gain, diabetes, and a host of cardiovascular problems. It is a food for thought story. Please read it --- it's a very good article
I figured to post in this thread since it is directly related to food and eating.
ENJOY!
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/08/sugar/cohen-text
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Bump - thanks for posting0
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No worries!0
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...details the problems with sugar in today's diet --- everything from added sugar, corn syrup, sucralose, and all of those other sugar chemicals. It tells of how diabetes and other health problems are arising --- due to an excessively high amount of sugar in the food we eat.Most doctors are now agreeing that sugar, not fat, is the main reason for weight gain, diabetes, and a host of cardiovascular problems.
Absolute nonsense, nothing in that statement is true or factual. Excess consumption leads to obesity, which is the main contributing factor to health problems. Neither fat nor sugar are to blame. "Most doctors"...as in very few?... it's a very good article
No, it really is not. Not a single source cited, it's an opinion piece feeding off the, currently, popular boogyman...sugar.0 -
Oh, honey honey...0
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Where are the sources?0
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Where are the sources?
Hey, I was about to ask that.0 -
Where are the sources?
Why do you need sources? It's sugar. Everyone knows that sugar is da debil. No cite needed.0 -
Oh, honey honey honey honey
FTFY
sugar is not the enemy.
remember when fat used to be the enemy?
wheat was the enemy once too.
oh and CARBS!!!! those evil evil carbs!!
everything in moderation is fine. (except meth...meth is pretty bad in any amount. an bath salts...that **** will make you eat your friends!)
unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar you really dont have to.
it makes life a little........sweeter.0 -
Honey is as bad as sucrose. Ok.....if you leave the pollen and the leg and wing parts in, then there is some additional nutrition besides pure calories from a quickly absorbed simple carbohydrate.Oh, honey honey...
When I worked for a bee keeper, I kinda liked the fact that my honey was not translucent (body parts, pollen, etc.).0 -
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673600040411
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=199296
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3623194
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/4/537.short
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v482/n7383/full/482027a.html?WT.ec_id=NATURE-201202020 -
Oh, honey honey honey honey
FTFY
sugar is not the enemy.
remember when fat used to be the enemy?
wheat was the enemy once too.
oh and CARBS!!!! those evil evil carbs!!
everything in moderation is fine. (except meth...meth is pretty bad in any amount. an bath salts...that **** will make you eat your friends!)
unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar you really dont have to.
it makes life a little........sweeter.
The above scientific studies i posted will support the fact that sugar is harmful and that excessive consumption is directly linked with diabetes. Case closed on that.
The modern wheat plant is vastly different from what it once was and should not be consumed:
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/02/27/three-reasons-wheat-makes-you-fat-raises-risk-diseases-99957
Carbs are certainly not "evil," but unless you have an extremely high activity level excessive consumption of carbs (and sugar as well) will result in increased fat stores. Low carb diets are effective as they force your body to burn fat for energy instead of carbs. However, you should also take in healthy fats like omega fats and medium chain triglyceride (sp).0 -
I have started to think that while sugar is not a bad thing, the reality that sugar exacerbates cravings in a lot of people exists. So, more sugar in the diet, more cravings, more eating. Vicious cycle.
No, no sources, nothing more than my babbling brain.0 -
Oh, honey honey honey honey
FTFY
sugar is not the enemy.
remember when fat used to be the enemy?
wheat was the enemy once too.
oh and CARBS!!!! those evil evil carbs!!
everything in moderation is fine. (except meth...meth is pretty bad in any amount. an bath salts...that **** will make you eat your friends!)
unless you have a medical reason to avoid sugar you really dont have to.
it makes life a little........sweeter.
The above scientific studies i posted will support the fact that sugar is harmful and that excessive consumption is directly linked with diabetes. Case closed.
And the excessive consumption of calories from any food group will eventually lead to obesity, which is directly linked to diabetes. Case reopened0 -
Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.0
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this is going to be interesting...0
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Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.
We are discussing a link with diabetes and obesity as per your posted studies
However your post has completely changed since I first answered it0 -
furthermore your caloric intake is going to vary depending on your goal and what ratio of protein/carbs/fat you are consuming. Marathon runners/boxers/cyclists will need far more calories and carbs than your average joe (I believe Michael Phelps consumes 6500 calories a day just to maintain his weight),.0
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Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.
We are discussing a link with diabetes and obesity as per your posted studies
and their relation to sugar0 -
Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.
It will be much easier to stay with you if you will use the "quote" link instead of "reply".
Also, for the record, I disagree with most of your conclusions in this thread so far...
...I'm just not arsed enough to rebut each of your bogus points. Fortunately, for everyone involved, I'm sure others will be along shortly to do just that.0 -
Oh Christ, this will not end well.0
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mmmmmmmmmm sugar0
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Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.
It will be much easier to stay with you if you will use the "quote" link instead of "reply".
Also, for the record, I disagree with most of your conclusions in this thread so far...
...I'm just not arsed enough to rebut each of your bogus points. Fortunately, for everyone involved, I'm sure others will be along shortly to do just that.
i will not dignify anymore semantic slants with response...0 -
Oh Christ, this will not end well.
In for the inevitable arguing, name-calling, possibly even hair-pulling that will ensue. Also for the funny .gifs
I'll come back and read the results later0 -
mmmmmm suggaaarrrrrrrr0
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Completely irrelevant as we are specifically discussing sugar. Stay with me here.
We are discussing a link with diabetes and obesity as per your posted studies
and their relation to sugar
So because we want to blame sugar the fact that it is not the only thing linked to diabetes should be ignored
Got ya :drinker:0 -
I have started to think that while sugar is not a bad thing, the reality that sugar exacerbates cravings in a lot of people exists. So, more sugar in the diet, more cravings, more eating. Vicious cycle.
No, no sources, nothing more than my babbling brain.
Good thing we're on a calorie counting website and can make food choices based on daily goals.
*puts more sugar into tea*0 -
'By the 18th century the marriage of sugar and slavery was complete. Every few years a new island—Puerto Rico, Trinidad—was colonized, cleared, and planted. When the natives died, the planters replaced them with African slaves. ' excerpt from the National Geographic article...interesting choice of words.
The natives didn't die they were killed and 'planters' did bring African slaves to those islands and countries. Ever hear of the Taino Indians? Most people haven't, they're no longer around, when they didn't work the Spanish murdered them in masse. But the part on sugar...quite accurate(yes, sarcasm).0 -
Honey is as bad as sucrose. Ok.....if you leave the pollen and the leg and wing parts in, then there is some additional nutrition besides pure calories from a quickly absorbed simple carbohydrate.Oh, honey honey...
When I worked for a bee keeper, I kinda liked the fact that my honey was not translucent (body parts, pollen, etc.).
Never listen to The Archies, I take it?0 -
Honey is as bad as sucrose. Ok.....if you leave the pollen and the leg and wing parts in, then there is some additional nutrition besides pure calories from a quickly absorbed simple carbohydrate.Oh, honey honey...
When I worked for a bee keeper, I kinda liked the fact that my honey was not translucent (body parts, pollen, etc.).
Never listen to The Archies, I take it?
You are my candy girl...0 -
bump for later0
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