All calories ARE NOT created equal !!!
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Wow, I bet none of you Diabetic nor have any other serious illnesses! but any way if this thread helps one person, Great!
Here we go….0 -
No....I remember!
In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.
The earth was void and without form so he created the calorie!!:drinker:
you remember because you were there . . . in the beginning . . . weren't you?0 -
Wow, I bet none of you Diabetic nor have any other serious illnesses! but any way if this thread helps one person, Great!
It won't help, if they listen to advice telling them eat more calories than they burn. Then they'll gain weight.0 -
Wow, I bet none of you Diabetic nor have any other serious illnesses! but any way if this thread helps one person, Great!
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome type three. My joints will fully or partially dislocate at any given time and I'm in severe pain every single day. Assumptions get you nowhere.0 -
No....I remember!
In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.
The earth was void and without form so he created the calorie!!:drinker:
you remember because you were there . . . in the beginning . . . weren't you?
You bet your *kitten* i was.
Me and Go, yes we are friends like that.
I just call him Go.
I was his bouncer in the garden!
That's why that *kitten* and her man got kicked out....it was me!0 -
A calorie is a unit of energy, period. What your referring to is that different types of macro's have different metabolic pathways and influence our body composition differently.
"You're..." But I appreciate the sentiment. I am still trying to figure out the correct configuration of macros for me.
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No....I remember!
In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.
The earth was void and without form so he created the calorie!!:drinker:
you remember because you were there . . . in the beginning . . . weren't you?
You bet your *kitten* i was.
Me and Go, yes we are friends like that.
I just call him Go.
I was his bouncer in the garden!
That's why that *kitten* and her man got kicked out....it was me!
such a badass :flowerforyou:0 -
It does not process and break them down well. Carbs turn straight to stored fat in our bodies. Our bodies burn a protein for fuel before it will chooses a carb for fuel. It will just store the carb as fat.
The problem is when people include total misunderstanding in their rant like the above that are cleary lack of knowledge of the way things work.
First, guess what must happen to carbs to store as fat - even more break down and processing than if it was used as energy. If your insulin ain't working well for that, it ain't going to fat either.
And no, protein is no where at the top of the line as fuel source, carbs is easiest and therefore used if intense and needed quickly. Fat next if not intense and at rest. Protein if the carbs are out and are needed, or no other use for the protein immediately.
But guess what the protein is turned in to in those cases when it is used - glycogen. Ya, your "carbs" are primary fuel source.
The term is called Gluconeogenesis. See, it would be nice if you provided the terms for these things so that other people can go look them up and read about them.0 -
No....I remember!
In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.
The earth was void and without form so he created the calorie!!:drinker:
you remember because you were there . . . in the beginning . . . weren't you?
You bet your *kitten* i was.
Me and Go, yes we are friends like that.
I just call him Go.
I was his bouncer in the garden!
That's why that *kitten* and her man got kicked out....it was me!
such a badass :flowerforyou:
I workout!0 -
Maybe the fact that you see so many of these posts are b/c the people who post them are trying to just let some others who may be having struggles know that, the not the calorie consumption ,but the TYPE of calories are SOMETIMES the most important for THEM. Not everyone is concerned with this b/c some are not faced with same issues as others. You may be able to stay under your calories and lose, while other stay under and gain (like me, ps I was accurately counting cal and exercise, even bought a heart rate monitor, make sure I was accurate) All that being said, Wow... you have a lot of intelligent people on MFP. Do you and it will all be fine.0
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I think it's a trend. After 2 pages, all posts turn into a comedy of comments from people who a) really don't care if they help you, b) want to dis you, and/or c) are just plain a-ess-esses. Just get off the Internet and exercise or something.0
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Wow, I bet none of you Diabetic nor have any other serious illnesses! but any way if this thread helps one person, Great!
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome type three. My joints will fully or partially dislocate at any given time and I'm in severe pain every single day. Assumptions get you nowhere.
Yikes.
There are so many people with adversity on here that make simple excuses look...well, like excuses. :flowerforyou:0 -
Maybe the fact that you see so many of these posts are b/c the people who post them are trying to just let some others who may be having struggles know that, the not the calorie consumption ,but the TYPE of calories are SOMETIMES the most important for THEM. Not everyone is concerned with this b/c some are not faced with same issues as others. You may be able to stay under your calories and lose, while other stay under and gain (like me, ps I was accurately counting cal and exercise, even bought a heart rate monitor, make sure I was accurate) All that being said, Wow... you have a lot of intelligent people on MFP. Do you and it will all be fine.
What you are seeing are posts from people who want to make sure those who are struggling are not given incorrect information that will not help them. You absolutely miscalculated when you were counting your calories and exercise. Eating at a caloric deficit is what leads to weight loss. There are obviously different foods that different people should eat for their own health issues, but when it comes to weight gain/loss, a calorie is a calorie is a calorie.0 -
Maybe the fact that you see so many of these posts are b/c the people who post them are trying to just let some others who may be having struggles know that, the not the calorie consumption ,but the TYPE of calories are SOMETIMES the most important for THEM. Not everyone is concerned with this b/c some are not faced with same issues as others. You may be able to stay under your calories and lose, while other stay under and gain (like me, ps I was accurately counting cal and exercise, even bought a heart rate monitor, make sure I was accurate) All that being said, Wow... you have a lot of intelligent people on MFP. Do you and it will all be fine.
NO! Now you're going being confused and handing out poor advice for weight loss.
Except for the part about intelligent people on MFP. Yes, there are a lot.0 -
Considering I am a controlled diabetic (I don't take meds b/c my blood sugar is regulated now that I have lost weight.) my body still does not like a lot of carbohydrates (sugar). It does not process and break them down well. Carbs turn straight to stored fat in our bodies. Our bodies burn a protein for fuel before it will chooses a carb for fuel. It will just store the carb as fat. Now I am consuming more protein. I am not on any low carb plan, I am just eating what for one meal per day, then the other meals are mainly, meat & low carb veggies.
This statement alone tells me you have never had proper Diabetes Education with your diagnosis. If you had, you would know that Carbohydrates are broken down into glucose and used to fuel your body LONG before protein or fat. If your diabetic and have high blood sugars/A1C then yes your body is using proteins and fats for fuel instead of your carbohydrates but that is because there is not enough insulin being used to be able to use glucose to fuel your body.
I think you definitely need to check your information. I'm glad you are losing weight by decreasing carbs, but to make the above statement is just ignorant.0 -
Wow!!! BURN thread, BURN!! :laugh:0
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The title is now a Macro is not a Macro. :happy: LOL Sorry to offend all you nutrition and science majors out there. 0
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I know people like to think that McDonald's calories are the same as whole foods calories, but I've also found that this isn't true. Everyone hates hearing it, but when I switched from strict calorie counting to eating whole foods with limited wheat and dairy the pounds finally started coming off. The belly is FINALLY getting flatter after years of trying different tactics! Honestly I may be an exception and have some sort of wheat, dairy, and additive sensitivities. I'm just saying if what you're doing isn't working, try something else!
I hated the paleo promoters for ever (was vegan for 3 years)! But after years of hearing about the success of people eating this way, I've given it a try and it's working for me. As much as I hated to admit it at first, eating (mostly) paleo has worked almost effortlessly. I don't even follow all the rules all the time! Just doing clean eating most of the time with very little wheat or dairy has my body changing shape. Don't knock it until you've tried it I suppose...0 -
Considering I am a controlled diabetic (I don't take meds b/c my blood sugar is regulated now that I have lost weight.) my body still does not like a lot of carbohydrates (sugar). It does not process and break them down well. Carbs turn straight to stored fat in our bodies. Our bodies burn a protein for fuel before it will chooses a carb for fuel. It will just store the carb as fat. Now I am consuming more protein. I am not on any low carb plan, I am just eating what for one meal per day, then the other meals are mainly, meat & low carb veggies.
This statement alone tells me you have never had proper Diabetes Education with your diagnosis. If you had, you would know that Carbohydrates are broken down into glucose and used to fuel your body LONG before protein or fat. If your diabetic and have high blood sugars/A1C then yes your body is using proteins and fats for fuel instead of your carbohydrates but that is because there is not enough insulin being used to be able to use glucose to fuel your body.
I think you definitely need to check your information. I'm glad you are losing weight by decreasing carbs, but to make the above statement is just ignorant.
While the way the OPs sentence structure is organized, it shouldnt really take away from the message I believe shes trying to convey (which is the title of the thread).
Because if the opposite were true, then it wouldnt matter what anyones macros were set at would it?? We would all be able to get ripped and huge by eating 5000 calories of ice cream and cake. Just go to the gym and do stronglifts all days, no protein necessary.
But yeah, if a calorie is just a calorie, why not eat 2500 calories of pixie sticks all day and just be happy?
Alright, im convinced. 2500 calories of Raspberry Ketones it is for me, since all that matters is calories in and calories out. Thanks everyone! Ive seen the light! Hallelujah Amen & Assalamualaikum0 -
I know people like to think that McDonald's calories are the same as whole foods calories, but I've also found that this isn't true. Everyone hates hearing it, but when I switched from strict calorie counting to eating whole foods with limited wheat and dairy the pounds finally started coming off. The belly is FINALLY getting flatter after years of trying different tactics! Honestly I may be an exception and have some sort of wheat, dairy, and additive sensitivities. I'm just saying if what you're doing isn't working, try something else!
I hated the paleo promoters for ever (was vegan for 3 years)! But after years of hearing about the success of people eating this way, I've given it a try and it's working for me. As much as I hated to admit it at first, eating (mostly) paleo has worked almost effortlessly. I don't even follow all the rules all the time! Just doing clean eating most of the time with very little wheat or dairy has my body changing shape. Don't knock it until you've tried it I suppose...
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Not think, we know.
Because a calorie is a calorie.0 -
I know people like to think that McDonald's calories are the same as whole foods calories, but I've also found that this isn't true. Everyone hates hearing it, but when I switched from strict calorie counting to eating whole foods with limited wheat and dairy the pounds finally started coming off. The belly is FINALLY getting flatter after years of trying different tactics! Honestly I may be an exception and have some sort of wheat, dairy, and additive sensitivities. I'm just saying if what you're doing isn't working, try something else!
I hated the paleo promoters for ever (was vegan for 3 years)! But after years of hearing about the success of people eating this way, I've given it a try and it's working for me. As much as I hated to admit it at first, eating (mostly) paleo has worked almost effortlessly. I don't even follow all the rules all the time! Just doing clean eating most of the time with very little wheat or dairy has my body changing shape. Don't knock it until you've tried it I suppose...
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Not think, we know.
Because a calorie is a calorie.
:bigsmile: :flowerforyou: :bigsmile:0 -
It does not process and break them down well. Carbs turn straight to stored fat in our bodies. Our bodies burn a protein for fuel before it will chooses a carb for fuel. It will just store the carb as fat.
The problem is when people include total misunderstanding in their rant like the above that are cleary lack of knowledge of the way things work.
First, guess what must happen to carbs to store as fat - even more break down and processing than if it was used as energy. If your insulin ain't working well for that, it ain't going to fat either.
And no, protein is no where at the top of the line as fuel source, carbs is easiest and therefore used if intense and needed quickly. Fat next if not intense and at rest. Protein if the carbs are out and are needed, or no other use for the protein immediately.
But guess what the protein is turned in to in those cases when it is used - glycogen. Ya, your "carbs" are primary fuel source.
The term is called Gluconeogenesis. See, it would be nice if you provided the terms for these things so that other people can go look them up and read about them.
Ya, I was thinking of that, but thought better of it. Either you'll believe as she does and desire no education on it because you believe, or you've likely heard of it already.
But good point anyway, in which case, de novo lipogenesis for processing carbs into fat.0 -
Wow, I bet none of you Diabetic nor have any other serious illnesses! but any way if this thread helps one person, Great!
and just as an FYI, I'm a type 1 diabetic, have been for almost 20 years. I'm also a registered dietitian and a diabetes educator. As for your claim as a diabetic-if you were told you were Pre-Diabetic, then you are not Diabetic. Pre-diabetes means impaired glucose tolerance...you have higher fasting blood glucose levels but not high enough to be diagnosed as a type 2 Diabetic.0 -
I know people like to think that McDonald's calories are the same as whole foods calories, but I've also found that this isn't true. Everyone hates hearing it, but when I switched from strict calorie counting to eating whole foods with limited wheat and dairy the pounds finally started coming off. The belly is FINALLY getting flatter after years of trying different tactics! Honestly I may be an exception and have some sort of wheat, dairy, and additive sensitivities. I'm just saying if what you're doing isn't working, try something else!
I hated the paleo promoters for ever (was vegan for 3 years)! But after years of hearing about the success of people eating this way, I've given it a try and it's working for me. As much as I hated to admit it at first, eating (mostly) paleo has worked almost effortlessly. I don't even follow all the rules all the time! Just doing clean eating most of the time with very little wheat or dairy has my body changing shape. Don't knock it until you've tried it I suppose...
:laugh:
Not think, we know.
Because a calorie is a calorie.
Oh for crying out loud. You recently found what works for YOU (because you've obviously struggled) and therefore you KNOW all the answers? What? Since when? A year ago?0 -
Oh look. A quality vs quantity thread in January.
Shocking.0 -
All the people saying "its a unit" should look up the word context.0
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Oh geez.0
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I know people like to think that McDonald's calories are the same as whole foods calories, but I've also found that this isn't true. Everyone hates hearing it, but when I switched from strict calorie counting to eating whole foods with limited wheat and dairy the pounds finally started coming off. The belly is FINALLY getting flatter after years of trying different tactics! Honestly I may be an exception and have some sort of wheat, dairy, and additive sensitivities. I'm just saying if what you're doing isn't working, try something else!
I hated the paleo promoters for ever (was vegan for 3 years)! But after years of hearing about the success of people eating this way, I've given it a try and it's working for me. As much as I hated to admit it at first, eating (mostly) paleo has worked almost effortlessly. I don't even follow all the rules all the time! Just doing clean eating most of the time with very little wheat or dairy has my body changing shape. Don't knock it until you've tried it I suppose...
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Not think, we know.
Because a calorie is a calorie.
Oh for crying out loud. You recently found what works for YOU (because you've obviously struggled) and therefore you KNOW all the answers? What? Since when? A year ago?
<----Actually, been a member since 2010, see?
And I do not claim to know all the answers, but I do know this: A calorie IS a calorie, regardless of what food it comes from.
ETA: And debating on whether said calories come from McDonalds or your own refrigerator are better is a moot point.0 -
I am surprised to see that no one spoke about this; carbs are the first being used by our body to get it's energy so they can't go straight into fat! Secondly, most of you eat is decomposed by your body into glycogen, which is a form of carb. And also, even protein in excess turns to fat. Carbs aren't the weight loss enemy. I respect your choice of doing a low carb diet, but don't spread incorrect information!0
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And I do not claim to know all the answers, but I do know this: A calorie IS a calorie, regardless of what food it comes from.
ETA: And debating on whether said calories come from McDonalds or your own refrigerator are better is a moot point.
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