WHy I follow a low fat raw vegan diet

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  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    TL;DR, but scanned and got the jist.

    You need to control your fear of food, it sounds debilitating.

    I once feared food, not eating enough or properly gave me an oddly eurphoric feeling, delusional even. My mom got me with some doctors who let me know that I was anorexic and bulemic. It was tough to come back from, took me 15 years to start reclaiming my life.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I like some hot food every once in a while, personally.

    If this works for you, good for you. I'd be starving and miserable all the time.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    Somehow, the food on the plate had changed, but my habits were still pretty much the same. Eating really healthy vegan meals (still high raw) and then going out 3-5x per week and having a few drinks and my diet became vegan à la bar menu, which could consist of about 5 martinis and a large plate of french fries or some vegan nachos. I hated myself the next day, and I could hear this inner voice pleading me to stop. Problem was I never wanted the party to end.

    A wise man once told me that martinis are like women's breasts. One is too few and three is too many. 5 martinis would put most people on the floor. I think this would be the bigger problem, not any meat or cooked food that you might consume.

    Going out 5 times a week, having 5 martinis at a time..... serial obsession with extreme fad diets...

    Anyone see a pattern?

    I mean, right? That could be the better part of a bottle of vodka a night if it's a two shot martini (which most are).
  • Dugleik
    Dugleik Posts: 125
    I felt like this about food myself once... they called it anorexia after a year or so. No disrespect, your path is your own and congratulations for finding something you think works for you, sincerely. But, and I say this with love for you, eating something should never make you feel guilty. That is clinically the beginning of a disorder that stems from a need for control.. by removing yourself from your friends? You've placed emotions in to food vs. people. I'm not a doctor? But the one I had to see to conquer my food habits was pretty clear about putting my relationship with food above my relationship with life.

    Nothing we eat is evil or bad. It may not all be the best of choices? I mean I'll eat an apple before a snickers, but in moderation there is no reason to deny ourselves meats, cheeses, etc. You are completely allowed to experiment with your body, by all means find out how it affects you long term.. but please be careful what information you deal out to others, clinically what you are doing could be very harmful by denying nutrients from various foods. I may be wrong in that and I welcome anyone else to correct me? But I know both of my grandparents were raised on meat and dairy (evil foods) and both of them maintained incredible body structures without restricting anything.. IMO.. today's culture has gotten so fad obsessed they've forgotten how to just eat normal.

    Yeah, big parts of this story reads like my anorexia story as well, labeling more and more foods as bad.
  • danasings
    danasings Posts: 8,218 Member
    Um, no. But thanks.

    Happy it's working out for you, though. :flowerforyou:
  • Dugleik
    Dugleik Posts: 125
    I'm sorry you don't have a healthy relationship with food.

    Quinoa = bad?!?!?!

    I agree that quinoa is bad, but for me it's because I can't cook it (always end up either soggy mess or little pebbles of doom.
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
    tl;skimmed

    Ten percent fat and ten percent protein is unsustainable and unhealthy. That's not enough protein to maintain, much less build, muscle; nor enough fat to maintain a healthy level of fat-soluble vitamins or cholesterol. (Yes, cholesterol can get too low.)

    You feel great now; that's common among new raw vegans, as you cut out the junk food and add vegetables. Unless you supplement heavily, you'll be back here in a couple of years wanting to know why your teeth are rotting, you're fatigued and depressed, your libido is gone, and your immune system is down the tubes. After all, you're doing everything "right"!

    Please reconsider.
  • vjohn04
    vjohn04 Posts: 2,276 Member
    I'm sorry you don't have a healthy relationship with food.

    Quinoa = bad?!?!?!

    I agree that quinoa is bad, but for me it's because I can't cook it (always end up either soggy mess or little pebbles of doom.

    LOL Love it! awwwww!!
  • jayjay12345654321
    jayjay12345654321 Posts: 653 Member
    I'm sorry you don't have a healthy relationship with food.

    Quinoa = bad?!?!?!

    I agree that quinoa is bad, but for me it's because I can't cook it (always end up either soggy mess or little pebbles of doom.

    It takes practice. The key is to have the heat turned down. If it's up to high, you get mush. If you have it too low, you have to increase the cooking time to wait for them to split open. There's a happy medium that's hard to hit.
  • danimalkeys
    danimalkeys Posts: 982 Member
    All I can say is hummus with no olive oil isn't hummus.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    You will come to realize that food is nourishment for your body, just as love, and sleep, and peace of mind. You will want to nourish your body more and more everyday, and with each day, you will see it blossom into something beautiful. This is what comes from eating clean living food, and this is why I strive to stay crude!

    I don't know. I think food is probably more like sex ... the dirtier, the better.
  • nje444
    nje444 Posts: 62
    cliffs for anyone interested:

    OP did dukan diet, lost some weight, decided high protein was bad for her
    started vegan diet, regularly went drinking with friends and ate french fries, nachos, and all things delicious (except meat and cheese)
    met the banana girl at some festival and decided to dump all her friends and stop drinking
    now eats high carb, low fat, and freaks out when she goes to Chipotle

    pretty sure that covers it

    love this! lets be friends! :-P
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    All I can say is hummus with no olive oil isn't hummus.
    My mouth is a desert just thinking about that.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    psychosomatic baseless dietary elitism

    I actually read it, so, answer this question please.

    Did you alienate all your friends in search of new like minded individuals? And by like minded I mean people who obsess about dietary needs and fitness. You seemed like you said thats what you were setting out to do.

    Id never abandon my friends because of how they choose to live their life (within reason). Thats just low.
  • born2drum
    born2drum Posts: 731 Member
    Who else scrolled down the story straight to the comments? :)
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    TL;DR sorry, but making Tolstoy jealous. And I thought I saw the word rat in the title...apologies.
  • arghbowl
    arghbowl Posts: 1,179 Member
    TL;DR

    Love meat, hate soy, and love killing *kitten* to eat.
  • no thank you. I will continue to hang out with my same friends, eat what I want, drink what I want, and refrain from labeling any foods as "good" or "bad". I will do all of those things while still losing weight and feeling great. I can't imagine the stress you must go through on a day to day basis with those kind of restrictions and what it must be like to feel so guilty after a 555 calorie meal from Chipotle.

    I'm happy you're so happy but... again, no thank you. good luck with everything.

    This^^ No foods are "good" or "bad" or "dirty" or "clean", everything in moderation. i think it's silly to feel guilty for having fun with friends. And there are other things to do besides drink and eat with friends. You only have one life, live it up!
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    I wanted to share with you all a little bit about my dietary lifestyle. While I don’t let a label define who I am, my food choices fall into the high raw low fat vegan category... etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

    Here is the real point of this post.

    Translation - I want more hits on my blog!
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    no thank you. I will continue to hang out with my same friends, eat what I want, drink what I want, and refrain from labeling any foods as "good" or "bad". I will do all of those things while still losing weight and feeling great. I can't imagine the stress you must go through on a day to day basis with those kind of restrictions and what it must be like to feel so guilty after a 555 calorie meal from Chipotle.

    I'm happy you're so happy but... again, no thank you. good luck with everything.

    This^^ No foods are "good" or "bad" or "dirty" or "clean", everything in moderation. i think it's silly to feel guilty for having fun with friends. And there are other things to do besides drink and eat with friends. You only have one life, live it up!

    I think that's the problem here - and why this post maybe rubbed me the wrong way. It's clear from past diet and drinking habits that the OP cannot handle anything in moderation. It's all or nothing with her so it's easier for her cut everything out, rather than make an attempt at building a moderate, healthy relationship with food and drink. Much like a recovering alcoholic can't even have one beer without falling off the wagon.
  • climbing_trees
    climbing_trees Posts: 726 Member
    This is fascinating to me because I really want to start a vegan diet with a lot of raw foods. When I load up on the vegetables, my body feels better. I am curious to see how I feel when I cut out everything else. I might like it, I might hate it, but I won't know until I try~
    I have been vegetarian/pescatarian for five years and it has been great, and I finally feel ready to take it a step further. I'm currently finishing off the last of the animal products in my pantry and from now on I will be vegan! Yay!

    Thank you for sharing your story ^__^
  • My_Own_Worst_Enemy
    My_Own_Worst_Enemy Posts: 218 Member
    TL DR

    Whatever works for you.

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  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    Op~sounds like your setting, if not already, a eating disorder, but anyways good luck with that.:flowerforyou: I will keep doing what I am doing, see ticker below, cause it's working. :drinker:
  • smaugish
    smaugish Posts: 244 Member
    Holy triggering-food-is-the-devil-control-control-control post Batman!

    Seriously OP, while I'm happy that you (seem to be) happy, as so many posters before me have posted- woah. I know raw vegans. They still hang out with the rest of us and don't think food is bad and evil and all that jazz.
  • moontyrant
    moontyrant Posts: 160 Member
    what are visual migraine auras?
  • twixlepennie
    twixlepennie Posts: 1,074 Member
    I'm glad you've found something that you love. However, I've found the same bliss and satisfaction in all the foods you deem evil. There is no need for everyone to label foods the way you do. There are no good or bad. Foods are what you make of them, in the context of a balanced diet, all foods processed or not, are perfectly fine.

    +1

    I'm healthy, happy and I'm eating the foods that I like. This is something I can do for the rest of my life :drinker:
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
    I think the real problem with this thread is that someone tried to imply 5 martinis is too much.

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  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    I think the real problem with this thread is that someone tried to imply 5 martinis is too much.

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    That would be me! And I'm a drinker.

    5 martinis (usually a double shot pour) is the better part of a bottle of vodka or gin. Drink nearly a whole bottle 5 times a week and no wonder she wasn't feeling well.
  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    I think the real problem with this thread is that someone tried to imply 5 martinis is too much.

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    That would be me! And I'm a drinker.

    5 martinis (usually a double shot pour) is the better part of a bottle of vodka or gin. Drink nearly a whole bottle 5 times a week and no wonder she wasn't feeling well.

    Mmmm, martinis...
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
    Haha great point - I was just kidding around :flowerforyou:

    ...altho 5 martinis is pregame :laugh: :wink: