BEST weight loss advice!!!!! Simple & easy
edwardkim85
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Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
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Unfortunately there are a lot of factors with that. They could THINK they are eating at a deficit and not be, therefore not losing weight. The posts are never going to stop.0
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OP - well put and so simply stated. But let's face it. I'm in for the responses :drinker:0 -
no, it won't. nice try though0
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Actually, it's not as simple as that. I used to be a competitive skater and before a competition for about 2 weeks I'd almost double my training. HOWEVER, in that time frame, I'd gain about 2-3lbs, even though I was eating the exact same thing. I know I wasn't under estimating because my diet was VERY closely monitored, as in I followed a meal plan and never had anything outside of it.
It also has to do with what your body chooses to adsorb and keep. In those two weeks, my body would keep more of the protein that I was eating and so I put on weight. It was muscle weight so I didn't mind. When I'm really stressed, my weight will drop like crazy, not because I'm not eating but because my body just isn't absorbing any of it.
A better example would be someone who has a cup of coffee everyday. Skipping their morning brew will see themselves gaining about half a pound that day as they would be retaining more water than they usually are.
But the fact is, there are many things that contribute to weight, not just calories.0 -
Then I quess we can conclude obese people are stupid, right?Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....0 -
Pretty strong words coming from someone who has a baby pig as a profile pic. LOL.
In most cases it might be that simple, but weight loss is not a black and white issue. It is different for every person.0 -
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Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
It annoys me when people complain about posts! We are all here to help each other! Weight loss is more complicated than that else we all wouldn't be here! You don't seem like a very patient person. I suggest you find another message board....like for intolerant impatient people!!!0 -
There are some people who have medical issues or are on meds that mess with their ability to lose weight... However, I think most people don't lose because they are underestimating the number of calories they consume. It's easy to do!0
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Well, this should escalate quickly.0
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Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
It annoys me when people complain about posts! We are all here to help each other! Weight loss is more complicated than that else we all wouldn't be here! You don't seem like a very patient person. I suggest you find another message board....like for intolerant impatient people!!!
THAT !0 -
There are some people who have medical issues or are on meds that mess with their ability to lose weight... However, I think most people don't lose because they are underestimating the number of calories they consume. It's easy to do!
And this too!!0 -
Pretty strong words coming from someone who has a baby pig as a profile pic. LOL.
In most cases it might be that simple, but weight loss is not a black and white issue. It is different for every person.
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I absolute hate it when people say that.. because its not true.Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
One of the reasons its not true is because, Weight loss is not linear.
Two - People are not perfect nor do we live in a lab
Three - There is no way we can tell exactly how much calories we burn. although the HRM gives me a certain number of calories burned, It may not be a true number.
Four. -- too much salt, will keep the water, and prevent you from loosing weight
Five - Too much water, will prevent you from loosing weight.
Six - There are reports out there that says too little water will prevent you from loosing weight.
we don't live in a control environment, and although it works perfectly for you and for the next 10 people, I will guarantee you that for the next 100 people it wont work.0 -
So many people who are on here not only underestimate the calories IN (by not weighting their food, not logging every little thing) AS WELL AS overestimating how much activity they do on a daily basis and using the calorie totals MFP generates for exercise instead of using a HRM (which is still usually inaccurate by as much as 25%!). And if the person is loading up on salty foods, even if they are low in calories, they might not see the results they expect. Your generalization would work in a vacuum, but not in the real world.0
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PORTION CONTROL0
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There are some people who have medical issues or are on meds that mess with their ability to lose weight... However, I think most people don't lose because they are underestimating the number of calories they consume. It's easy to do!
Actually, I've always wondered about the meds thing. It seems that people say "LAW says: calories in vs. calories out, no exception" UNTIL there's talk of certain birth control pills or oral steroids, etc. So, what happens with those drugs--do they just cause the people to eat more without them knowing it, or does it make them sit on the couch more without them noticing? (Serious question; no snark)0 -
Keep a calorie journal (no excuse anymore, you have computers and smartphones and unlimited access to online databases that tell you, no more need to fully count and figure out caloric value) Use portion control. Eat whole foods while skipping the junk and processed foods. Exercise! Very simple.0
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It's more complicated than that! =P
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Hmm, reminds me I was listening to prince just the other day...PORTION CONTROL0 -
There are some people who have medical issues or are on meds that mess with their ability to lose weight... However, I think most people don't lose because they are underestimating the number of calories they consume. It's easy to do!
Actually, I've always wondered about the meds thing. It seems that people say "LAW says: calories in vs. calories out, no exception" UNTIL there's talk of certain birth control pills or oral steroids, etc. So, what happens with those drugs--do they just cause the people to eat more without them knowing it, or does it make them sit on the couch more without them noticing? (Serious question; no snark)
I have been on a steroid regimen, a few times in the past couple years for my multiple sclerosis symptoms, and even if I stick to my diet and exercise routine, I gain weight... not only that, my face gets chubby and my mid-section expands... I don't know if there is additional water retention or if it in some way alters my metabolism or something, but the weight gain is noticeable and real... no matter how much or little I eat, or how much or little I work out.
There are other factors to weight loss, especially for those on medications. If it's that simple, there wouldn't be plateaus in weight loss.0 -
Then why did I stop losing weight when I was eating too few calories and start losing it again when I upped my calories? And why did I again stop losing it when I started lifting heavy things? What's the simple equation for those scenarios?
As a sort of newbie here (but not to message boards in general), I definitely can see how seeing the same questions over and over again would be annoying. There would be about half the number of threads if people used the search function.
But if weight loss really was that simple, this site wouldn't exist.0 -
Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
It annoys me when people complain about posts! We are all here to help each other! Weight loss is more complicated than that else we all wouldn't be here! You don't seem like a very patient person. I suggest you find another message board....like for intolerant impatient people!!!
I don't think people would have as much of an issue with these posts if the people posting them would:
1) Look at the page and notice the other 10 posts on the SAME subject
2) Be willing to take advice and not get pissy with those giving it when it is not what they want to hear
If people want help, then they need to do a few things to get it.0 -
Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
Interesting in its simplicity, however I do have a question based on what you said. If someone is "at a deficit" as you say, I assume they would be in the "Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss" category, right? IF this is the case, why, then, are they not losing weight?
I believe what you posted is a great rule of thumb, however there are additional factors which can confound such a straight-forward paradigm.0 -
Oversimplified post is oversimplified.
As a general (very, very, general) rule, sure.
But it's the quality of calories in. Eating 1200 calories of chocolate bars every day may allow you to lose a little weight, but your body won't be in good shape. It's all about nutrition and what your body needs.0 -
I think some of you are missing the OP's point. He did not say this is an absolute or that the whole world exists in a vacuum, or that there are not exceptions. For the majority of the posts about stalled weight loss, one or more of the following seem to apply from what I've observed:
1. The person doesn't have an actual diagnosed medical condition
2. The person is underestimating their calorie intake
3. The person is overestimating their exercise calories
4. The person has set an unrealistic weight loss goal
5. The person is not using the MFP or TDEE formulas properly
6. The person is just looking for a quick fix
7. The person is has not yet reached the point where they really want to lose weight and are willing to put in the hard work
8. The person is not willing to accept that they might be wrong about their food intake, numbers, process, etc, and simply argues with everyone offering constructive advice while thanking everyone who placates them. This usually ends with the OP and a few others being upset that everyone is "so rude."
Yes, everyone is different and we all have different ways of approaching our weight loss and different issues we need to take into account. It may be more difficult for some people to create that deficit than others for whatever reason, but you can't lose weight when your calories are at or above maintenance. Just because it may not be as simple as "eat less, move more" for you doesn't mean that you don't need to be in a calorie deficit to lose. That's all he is saying. The calorie deficit has to be there in order to see results.0 -
You can lie down on your couch and not move all day.
You eat 4 slizes of cheese pizza totalling 1200 kcal as your only meal.
You will lose weight. If you have a medical condition, that is a different problem, but 99% of obese people do not.
It's not a black and white issue.
You can hate on me for being so critical and harsh all you want, but not everybody here needs ' support'. People just need to hear the cold hard truth. It's Calorie out > calorie in to lose weight.
Stop making excuses.
kudoossssss. My piggy picture's cute, I look at him every day and I crave bacon. Stop hatin' haters0 -
Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
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Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss
Calories out = calories in ---> Maintain weight
Calories out < Calories in ---> Weight gain
That's all. This should get rid of 99% of stupid posts of people complaining they are not losing weight even though they are at a deficit....
Interesting in its simplicity, however I do have a question based on what you said. If someone is "at a deficit" as you say, I assume they would be in the "Calories out > calories in ---> Weight loss" category, right? IF this is the case, why, then, are they not losing weight?
I believe what you posted is a great rule of thumb, however there are additional factors which can confound such a straight-forward paradigm.
People do not lose weight because of these reasons:
1. They do NOT know that packaged food calories are allowed up to 20% margine of error... legally. ( in the US/Canada)
- 400 kcal lean cuisine? It's actually 480 kcal.
2. No scale/ measuring cup
- You think you're eating one CUP of brown rice, which should be 200g and that's 200 kcal? You've actually been eating more. Get a scale.
3. Overestimating exercise calories burnt
- You think your HR monitor kcal burnt or the machine kcal burnt is accurate? No, especially not the latter.
4. Overestimating TDEE
- You think you are 'lightly active' because you walk 30 min - 1 hour to work? No, you are 'sedentary'.
- You think you burn 'about' 2000 kcal / day? No, you actually burn 1700 kcal/day. You find this number by experimenting with diets.
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You can lie down on your couch and not move all day.
You eat 4 slizes of cheese pizza totalling 1200 kcal as your only meal.
^^I did something along these lines many times (I honestly thought it was the only way).
I lost weight.
Unfortunately, I retained lots of fat; as the weight that I lost was part fat and also large part muscle. I also believe that it severely impaired my ability to lose weight/fat in the future.
Sometimes, even if the answer is right, it is the question that is wrong.
(wow, that sounded so zen)
edit: maybe I should have said that I think it impeded my ability to maintain, because ultimately I always ended up gaining back what I lost and then some, whereas if I had done things properly I would less likely need to try to lose again in the future0
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