Biggest Loser Finale...what is going on??
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I would love to have the money...and the car...and she will be a spokes model for the show, I think everyone is over reacting....she feels great! She's happy, and I am happy for her.
True story! People are so overdramatic. We've all dieted and know what it's like to be hungry, its REALLY not that bad. She did what needed to be done for 30 days to win a quarter of a million dollars, a new car and probably absurds amounts of money post show. It would take me working full 8 1/2 hour days, real hard work for the next 5-6+ years for that kind of money. I'm pretty sure being hungry for 30 days is about one of the easiest $%&%#@ I could come up with for that amount of cash.
Exactly, I would have done the exact same thing like Rachel.0 -
Stupid show its never been about health
It did help a lot of people to change their life. That is a fact. Met Danny Cahill (one of the winners) in person and he told his personal story. He is just one of a lot of contestants, who kept their weight off and have a happy healthy life. Did you even watch the show?0 -
Most of the time someone who is obese previously suffers from their own demons, normally in the form of Binge Eating Disorder (Now classified as an Eating Disorder in the DSM-5) which has its own physical and psychological manifestations. As someone who has teetered back and forth most of my life as far as control issues when food was involved. I have been as light as 125 lbs and as heavy as 255, at 5'8". What I am saying is binge eating disorder can very easily morph into another form of eating disorder such as anorexia nervosa or bulimia, as they stem from the same disorder. For many people it is all or nothing in either direction.0
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Firstly I will say that Rachel was a favorite of mine - I loved her never-quit attitude and spirit. I was surprised when I saw her during the finale - I had thought she said she was close to her goal weight during the semi-finals, but I may have been hearing things.
That being said, let's face the facts folks - the point of The Biggest Loser is not to watch overweight people learn how to be healthy and lose weight in a controlled, safe manner. If it were, there wouldn't be contestants striving for - and being praised for - ridiculously high, sometimes double-digit weight losses week after week.
The point of The Biggest Loser is to watch morbidly obese people beat the ever living cr*p out of themselves in an attempt to lose as much of their bodyweight as possible in a short amount of time.
Let's face it - this is television we're talking about, and it's all about ratings. Would a show about a group of overweight people who learn to eat healthily and workout on a normal, consistent, sustainable basis and lose let's say, 2-5lbs a week (just throwing a figure out there) rake in nearly the same amount of viewers? Not even slightly.0 -
I was shocked when I saw Rachel - I was hoping to see a super toned, fit looking woman. Instead, she looked extremely unhealthy and gaunt. She basically did what she needed to do to win the money (even at the expense of losing all that awesome muscle she gained at the ranch). I am disappointed that she took it that far and I think the show will be getting a lot of backlash for this.0
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Well I did stop watching this show years ago b/c it focused too much on the drama between the contestants and voting people off. I started watching again last season since there was someone on the show I actually knew. I liked this season in that there was no voting off for the most part. It was strictly that those with the least progress went home with the exception of the trainer saves and all. That being said we all have to remember it is a contest for $250,000!!! I was rooting for the Ginger Goddess all season long!
I do wish there wasn't such a big gap (3 1/2 months) between the finale and leaving the ranch. Then Rachel would have had a better idea of where she needed to be to win the money.
Rachel - SW 260 FW 105 % lost - 59.62%
David - SW 409 FW 187 % lost - 54.28%
Bobby - SW 358 FW 170 % lost - 52.51%
For Rachel to still have won and have a % lost of 54.29%, she could have weighed 119. But with 3 1/2 months, she didn't know how the others would do. I believe she then went to an extreme to win the money. She seems to have a pretty good head on her shoulders and I hope she goes back to the strong athletic contestant she was before she left the ranch.
I do think there will need to be other changes to the show though as a result of this. I am not sure how they could prevent this, but greater minds than mine will figure it out. I don't really watch this show as any type of inspiration for myself as I know the results from the show are not reasonable for those of us in the real world. I am losing slowly and consistently and that is fine with me since I don't have to eat Jennie O and Subway for every meal. :laugh: Although if I had a chance of winning a quarter of a million dollars, I would do it.
We all need to remember, it's a contest for $250,000 in the end!
ETA: To beat Tumi (if she had been sent home), she couldn't have been more than 118. Tougher to win the at home prize this year!0 -
The winner was borderline anorexic. Very gaunt. When she tripped on the stairs I thought she would snap in half.
Oh please don't say that...
I've heard the "can't hug/touch/look at you, you'll break" comment in the past while being at a healthy weight more times than I care to remember. And I can say from personal experience, it doesn't get less insulting or demeaning over time. Think before you speak, please and thank you:)
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I'm pretty sure I would get down to 105 lbs if it meant $250,000. Maybe this will bring upon a rule change, but it's a TV show, the fact that we're even having this discussion is insanely good for ratings.
And why is it acceptable too call someone too skinny but if you call someone fat everyone loses their minds? Maybe y'all should just stop criticizing the way other people look.0 -
Interesting judgments, Rachel lost a lot of weight and is thin for sure. I'm thin also but I don't think I look extremely unhealthy, gaunt or like I have anorexia who knew!0
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She is anorexic. She has no muscle, no fat, basically skin and bones. It's really disturbing. I don't think they should be giving people $250,000 to starve themselves.0
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And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
^^ This
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I am the one that started this topic and it was not set up to bash anyone thin or fat. I do think that this episode is going to raise the concern that a lot of people have had with the show as far as health. Do I think that someone can be underweight and be healthy? YES! Do I think that some can be overweight and healthy? YES! But beyond that, there gets to a point where unhealthy is unhealthy no matter how you tip the scale. On the skinny side, yes Nicole Richie is thin, but she is a slender healthy thin. What we saw tonight on Biggest Loser was a different level, at least what I saw. If we are too afraid to say it when we see it, then we are just as big as a problem than the people who call others "fat" or "twiggy". Its not about that...it is about being HEALTHY.
What makes you think that she is unhealthy? It said she was at 19% bodyfat. If that is unhealthy, then I guess I have one foot in the grave, and jillian 6 feet under. Yet I'm willing to bet that Rachel could probably outrun the majority of people making the negative comments about her.
Yes, she is very thin. But she is far from anorexic. And judging by the amount of negative comments on here and the internet in general, we have a huge perception problem in this country when it comes to what "healthy" looks like.
I believe Rachel was at 19% bf on the previous episode when she weighed in at 150 (the triathlon epi filmed 3 months ago). She was literally skin and bones tonight. It's not quite as obvious in the before/after pic posted earlier....but her absolute *frailty* was astonishing when the other contestants and Alison hugged her. She look like a light draft could blow her over like it was a gale force wind. It didn't look like shehad lost ssome muscle tone...it looked like she had lost nearly ALL her muscle. No way could she do a triathlon today...she wouldn't even have the strength to complete the swim. I have my doubts that she would even have the strength to tread water. I am seriously concerned for her health (both mental and physical), because I really identified with her on the show.
There is no way she is 5'4" and 150, with 19% bodyfat. Unless she was a body builder, which she obviously is not.
Were these her stats? I don't have trouble believing she could have been there. That's 121.5 lbs of LBM. Obese people tend to carry a lot of LBM, some of it muscle, some connective tissue, etc. If she retained a decent amount, I could definitely see her havig been 5'4, 150 @ 19%.
But were these her actual stats previously?
I know she is 5'4". Somebody else said 150. And I am telling you right now, as somebody who is 5'4" and muscular. No way she was 5'4", 150, and only 19% bodyfat. WAAAAAY OFF. I would say more like 25-30%
Or maybe you aren't as "muscular" as you thought?
150 pounds at 19% body fat means 122 pounds LBM. That is not impossible, and one need not be a "bodybuilder" to have 122lbs lbm. When I was obese, my LBM was roughly 130 pounds. I have maintained most of that.0 -
I actually thinks she looks good, definitely much better than before. She's only a couple pounds underweight which is better than being morbidly obese. Of course she'd be in a healthier range and look better if she gained 5-10 pounds, but hey with a 250,000 dollar prize I can see how she would diet down to win. I don't know why people are making a big deal about her lack of muscle tone, most people could care less if a girl has muscle. It seems you can't ever please everyone. You're too fat, no you're too thin, no your too bulky.0
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She looks unhealthy too me, but hey it's her body! I wish her much success. Every journey is a battle.0
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So so very true and it is a contest and just like people drinking, or eating the most hot dogs in 1 minute, Racheal won a lot of money and now noteriety for sure. People need keep in mind TBL is a reality game show that is doing a lot for the morbibly obese community at the same time.Let's face it - this is television we're talking about, and it's all about ratings. Would a show about a group of overweight people who learn to eat healthily and workout on a normal, consistent, sustainable basis and lose let's say, 2-5lbs a week (just throwing a figure out there) rake in nearly the same amount of viewers? Not even slightly.0 -
I don't think she looks that bad, who are we to judge? There are a lot of over weight people and there are a lot of under weight people, who cares?0
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Rachel is a very athletic woman even being overweight. On the finale, she was so weak and probably dehydrated that she tripped and had barely any energy to get up. Her mental status was so off that she didn't even realize she won until a few seconds after. Although that could be all part of extreme excitement because of the contest as well.
I tripped over my cat this morning. Does that mean that I am "for a fact" weak and unhealthy?
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Her BMI is 18 .... anything below 18.5% is considered underweight for her size.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm
I am not about skinny shaming. I agree we all come in different shapes and sizes but I just think that she went from one extreme to another. From being overweight to underweight. I don't know if she simply did it for the money and plans on gaining the weight back, I don't know her personally so I cannot say that.
What I hope happens, after the sheer shock of her intense weight loss, Biggest Loser re-thinks its position. It should be all about healthy weight loss. So there should be a line that cannot get crossed. They should sit down with each of the contestants and a dr and determine what the lowest HEALTHY weight is for that person and put in their contracts that if they go below that line, they are disqualified.
Lets remember, this is supposed to motivate people to start their journey, not to promote unhealthy weight loss.
All in all, I really would rather watch Chris Powell and his wife on his show because its a one on one thing and that person's health is the priority! That is how it should be.
Suddenly BMI charts are accurate because we are talking about a skinny woman?
I guess anybody with a BMI of 25.5 deserves ridicule and has an eating disorder as well.
BMI charts are used for people of ALL sizes. I am not using it strictly because she is skinny. I am overweight and I know it and I am working on correcting that. My dr sat me down and showed me where I personally was on the BMI chart so no, I am NOT saying it simply because she is skinny, as I said, she went from one extreme to another. Unhealthy overweight and Unhealthy underweight. Also, as I said, who is to say she wont gain some back to look better and be healthy and just did the drastic and unhealthy weight loss for the money. We do not know but it does set a very poor example.
Sorry, but I don't see how somebody finishing their weight loss journey sets a poor example.
Well, if you are comfortable watching someone win a prize for being at an unhealthy size, that is up to you. As I said, even Bob and Jillian had a look of pure and honest concern on their faces when she walked out.
Let me be clear, I am not jealous, I am not envious, I am not hating on skinny people. I am just saying it is a concern when we see someone looking as unhealthy as she does, and underweight that we give her a prize and say "job well done, better too skinny then too fat"
Everybody's reaction, including yours, to a woman who may or may not be a FEW pounds under weight is what's shocking. You would've thought she came out looking like a holocaust survivor. She is not "clearly unhealthy" anymore than a person with a FEW extra pounds is clearly unhealthy.
How about I go around making rash judgements and assumptions about people who don't fit into a size 6 or below jeans. It seems people are less shocked at the sight of a morbidly obese woman than a woman who may be 1-2 lbs under weight. Truth is Rachel is closer to a "healthy" weight than 70% of Americans and maybe people really are just used to seeing their own fat.
Judging from your comments, it seems like you didn't really followed the show so I'm not sure why you are spending so much time being all defensive about your own weight when we are talking about the BL winner. You are right that the BMI is only a guideline and each persons weight should be viewed individually to deem them healthy or unhealthy. I can tell you for a a fact that in Rachel's case, she is unhealthy. Rachel looked sick during the finale. Also in case you don't know, being an slightly underweight is much more unhealthy than being slightly overweight. There's a lot of leniency upwards but not going downwards. Serious medical issues don't start becoming a problem usually unless someone's BMI is well above 30. Even then, the damage to someone's health usually takes years or decades before increase in mortality. But people with BMI lower than 17.5 can have serious health implications in just a short period of time.
Humor me and tell me how you "know for a fact" that Rachel is unhealthy?
Your condescending comments doesn't help your case. Stop defending your own lifestyle and weight to complete strangers in MFP. Each of your response scream insecurity. You may be physically healthy, maybe you can consider evaluating if you are mentally healthy.
Ooh burn. Personal attacks because you can't answer a question? Who is the insecure one again?
Can you please tell me how you "know for a fact" that Rachel is healthy?0 -
I would LOVE to know Rachel's diet and workout plan---AFTER she left the ranch before she came back for the grand finale/reveal. She was dancing around that, but did say AT THE RANCH, she was given 1600 calorie budget. Not sure what she did after that, but hey, she looks great to me and that is how I would like to look. I am bothered because it took me 2 years to take off 103 pounds, it took her 7 months to take off 155 pounds. Makes little sense to me because I am doing everything I can, eating healthy and exercising most days. I am 43, though; she is only 24. I am also hypothyroid, but…I take medication for that. So, it still makes no sense to me. I want to take off 40 more, but now I feel discouraged, like there is a 'key' to doing this that I am missing. Any takers on this?0
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I honestly think that this is the end of Biggest Loser tonight. There is no way to hide the unhealthy nature of the show anymore.
Why would this be the end of the show? They helped MANY people this season make some amazing life changes. Holy cow, did you see Tuni! And David? Jay? Jennifer? on and on.... Someone will always take something too far. Rachel (Who I really liked the whole time) did take it too far. I think it is likely she has some kind of eating disorder. For 250K, I still could not starve myself like that. I couldn't. Hoping she can build back some of the muscle she burnt through and find a healthy balance. I wish her the best.
Get off NBC/BL's case and find another horse to beat. I love what BL has done for so many people and the way it has motivated me as well.0 -
I would LOVE to know Rachel's diet and workout plan---AFTER she left the ranch before she came back for the grand finale/reveal. She was dancing around that, but did say AT THE RANCH, she was given 1600 calorie budget. Not sure what she did after that, but hey, she looks great to me and that is how I would like to look. I am bothered because it took me 2 years to take off 103 pounds, it took her 7 months to take off 155 pounds. Makes little sense to me because I am doing everything I can, eating healthy and exercising most days. I am 43, though; she is only 24. I am also hypothyroid, but…I take medication for that. So, it still makes no sense to me. I want to take off 40 more, but now I feel discouraged, like there is a 'key' to doing this that I am missing. Any takers on this?
Wait a minute, you have lost 103 pounds already and you think you are doing something wrong? You are doing amazing, and don't ever forget that and don't let anyone, especially a game show take that away from you. This is my biggest problem with the biggest loser. It sets unrealistic expectations and goals for people trying to lose weight.
Do not forget that this is a GAMESHOW that awards the winner with 250K! Obviously, some people, like Rachel will do anything to win, even if it means doing it in an unhealthy way.
You keep going with your healthy lifestyle changes, hold your head high and be damn proud of what you have accomplished so far. :drinker: 0 -
I think she looks hot. Her face looks 1000x better at 105 lbs than it did at 260 lbs.0
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I would LOVE to know Rachel's diet and workout plan---AFTER she left the ranch before she came back for the grand finale/reveal. She was dancing around that, but did say AT THE RANCH, she was given 1600 calorie budget. Not sure what she did after that, but hey, she looks great to me and that is how I would like to look. I am bothered because it took me 2 years to take off 103 pounds, it took her 7 months to take off 155 pounds. Makes little sense to me because I am doing everything I can, eating healthy and exercising most days. I am 43, though; she is only 24. I am also hypothyroid, but…I take medication for that. So, it still makes no sense to me. I want to take off 40 more, but now I feel discouraged, like there is a 'key' to doing this that I am missing. Any takers on this?
Wow! Great weight loss! You shouldn't be discouraged at all!!! If you were able to live, eat and sleep only being concerned about your weight for 4 months, you would have lost it much quicker.
For those of us who still have to deal with real life, it is much harder. TBL started to prove the morbidly obese could accomplish rapid weight loss and keep it off. There are a team of doc constantly supervising them. I think the trainers would tell you that rapid weight loss shouldn't be done at home without supervision. Even the at-home contestants are getting some guidelines IMO.
Tumi looked better than anyone else. David was a close second. I didn't think Rachel looked healthy but so what. She chose to lose a lot of weight for the finale. If it was a conscious decision and she plans to gain up to a more healthy weight, I applaud her competitiveness.
I was glad Jillian and Bob looked unhappy when they saw Rachel. That means they knew she went to far for the GAME! But that was one of the reasons for being there, to win. If TBL doesn't want the competition to be so aggressive, don't send them home before the finale. At home, the controls are not so set and the players can play the game more effectively, I they choose. It isn't called The Biggest Helathy Loser. Its called The Biggest Loser. That's what Rachel is.0 -
I would LOVE to know Rachel's diet and workout plan---AFTER she left the ranch before she came back for the grand finale/reveal. She was dancing around that, but did say AT THE RANCH, she was given 1600 calorie budget. Not sure what she did after that, but hey, she looks great to me and that is how I would like to look. I am bothered because it took me 2 years to take off 103 pounds, it took her 7 months to take off 155 pounds. Makes little sense to me because I am doing everything I can, eating healthy and exercising most days. I am 43, though; she is only 24. I am also hypothyroid, but…I take medication for that. So, it still makes no sense to me. I want to take off 40 more, but now I feel discouraged, like there is a 'key' to doing this that I am missing. Any takers on this?
One thing that has always irritated me about this show is that it can make someone like you, who has accomplished WONDERFUL things for her health, feel bad about not doing it as fast as the contestants. I imagine you have other things to do than spend the equivalent of a full workday at the gym every day for 4 months. It's an artificial environment, and while it does show us that it can be done, it takes extremely special circumstances to do it in the time frame that they do.
It sounds like you are kicking *kitten* - keep it up!0 -
I would LOVE to know Rachel's diet and workout plan---AFTER she left the ranch before she came back for the grand finale/reveal. She was dancing around that, but did say AT THE RANCH, she was given 1600 calorie budget. Not sure what she did after that, but hey, she looks great to me and that is how I would like to look. I am bothered because it took me 2 years to take off 103 pounds, it took her 7 months to take off 155 pounds. Makes little sense to me because I am doing everything I can, eating healthy and exercising most days. I am 43, though; she is only 24. I am also hypothyroid, but…I take medication for that. So, it still makes no sense to me. I want to take off 40 more, but now I feel discouraged, like there is a 'key' to doing this that I am missing. Any takers on this?
Wait a minute, you have lost 103 pounds already and you think you are doing something wrong? You are doing amazing, and don't ever forget that and don't let anyone, especially a game show take that away from you. This is my biggest problem with the biggest loser. It sets unrealistic expectations and goals for people trying to lose weight.
Do not forget that this is a GAMESHOW that awards the winner with 250K! Obviously, some people, like Rachel will do anything to win, even if it means doing it in an unhealthy way. You keep going with your healthy lifestyle changes, hold your head high and be damn proud of what you have accomplished so far. :drinker:
^^This!!!
@ Autumn - I HAVE to say this: You are FAR more inspiring to me than the Biggest Loser contestants can ever be. Think about it: who is the real role model here? A game show contestant who gets to put their life on hold, go live at an expensive "ranch" with a dream gym, celebrity trainers, a team of nutritionists & doctors, etc - ALL of which isn't just handed to them, it is shoved down their throats. OR - a REAL person like you who chose to eat a healthier diet, exercise like a normal person, and lost weight at a reasonable and healthy pace! Look at what happens to a LOT of the BL people - they get back to *real* life and end up gaining the weight back because they didn't LEARN anything at that fancy ranch!
You've been losing weight and living a healthy lifestyle for TWO years! I don't see that as something to get discouraged about - I see that as a WIN. You've been living fit and healthy for two whole years! Wowsers, that's fantastic!! On top of that you lost weight at a reasonable, healthy pace. :flowerforyou:
This is what I really dislike about Biggest Loser. It makes wonderful, successful, REAL people question their accomplishments. I'm like everyone else - I watch the show and think, "Holy crap!! How is SHE losing 8 pounds in a week and I only lost 1/2 a pound? What am I doing wrong??" That show sends the wrong message.
I agree 100% with the other reply. You be DAMN PROUD of what you have accomplished. People on MFP see that 103 lost on your ticker and are blown away - I guarantee it. And two years from now, when Rachel has gained it all back (with no clue why) and is starting over - you'll have lost that last 40 and will be showing off a rockin' bod that you earned the RIGHT way. Lots of love - YOU are the real role model here.
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Yes, they have helped a lot of people. But shows like my 600 lb life and there is another one I has seen a few times, but can't think of the name (Extreme Weight Loss, maybe?) have also helped people. I think this is the sign of the ending of Biggest Loser because of the liability that could come after Rachel. Dolvett Quince, Bob Harper, and Jillian Michaels are not going to sit back and watch the brand names they created come crashing down because of the possibility of more controversy. Their money, names, and careers are on the line. Jillian was already exposed once this season because of the whole giving contestants supplements thing. Maybe there will be another season or two, but I think this finale was where TBL "jumped the shark" if you are familiar with tv production lingo. This was the tipping point in my opinion.0
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I haven't read through every single comment on this post, so apologies if this has been said before. I guess even if it has, I would still like to reinforce the point.
Firstly, I'm genuinely curious to know who actually believed the Biggest Loser took a healthy approach. Like at any point in the show's history. Anyone? Seriously? The show has always sent a worryingly dangerous messages to viewers, so what actually surprises me here is that everyone else is a) surprised and b) fretting about Rachel's weight loss *specifically* setting a bad example. The entire existence of the show sends a very bad and harmful example!
To be clear: I have no comment to make on her weight loss. It's her body and doesn't affect me in any way. And while I do criticise TBL I still do watch it (I have an embarrassing love for cr*ppy reality TV shows).
What I would like to say is that many commenters are missing the big picture here. The problem is not the way Rachel looked at the finale. The problem is the entire show, and the weight loss industry in a broader sense. Let me broadly summarise some problems with the show:
- it is inherently exploitative
- it primarily uses bullying, shame, embarrassment and humiliation to "motivate" participants (this goes against all psychological research which shows positive reinforcement is the most effective way to change behaviour)
- it normalises extreme and ongoing weight loss of 10+ pounds per week (people are criticised for "only" losing 4 pounds; heaven forbid they ever maintain for one week!)
- it ignores medical advice and forces participants to exercise with injury, exercise beyond the point of exhaustion or exercise to the point of vomiting
- it puts participants in an environment that no "normal" people could ever access
- it has triggered eating disorders in many ex-contestants
- it adopts dangerous techniques like laxative abuse and VLCD and, even though the participants are supposedly being monitored by doctors, most of the damage from this stuff is not immediately apparent but causes long-term issues
- it portrays so many disordered eating habits that it's hard to know where to start listing them
If anyone is interested in more detail, I *strongly* suggest reading this full interview:
http://www.bodylovewellness.com/2010/06/09/kai-hibbard-biggest-loser-finalist-part-1-of-3/
ETA: Someone earlier in the thread asked what Rachel's home routine was. Based on this interview (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/the-biggest-loser-winner-rachel-frederickson-dodges-too-skinny-questions-15881.php) it appears she was eating 1600 calories (gross), doing 4 high intensity spin classes per day, and walking on treadmill while at her job (5 hours per day as she said was working part time).
Now some calculations. She left the ranch at 150lb, and was 105lb by the finale. Let's pick a mid-point weight of 127lb to calculate calorie burns. Let's also assume her spin classes ranged from 30-60 minutes each, and we'll use a mid point of 45 minutes to calculate. Walking 3 mph for 5 hours would burn 1,257 calories, and 180 minutes of vigorous spin classes would burn 1,966 calories. That is total calorie burn of 3,223 per day. And her intake was 1600, which results in a net of NEGATIVE 1623 calories. Think about that for a moment, especially given WHO criteria for starvation is 600-800 calories per day. She was, for at least three months, netting 2323 calories below what is generally considered to be starvation. And that's not even factoring in her BMR.
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Her BMI is 18 .... anything below 18.5% is considered underweight for her size.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm
I am not about skinny shaming. I agree we all come in different shapes and sizes but I just think that she went from one extreme to another. From being overweight to underweight. I don't know if she simply did it for the money and plans on gaining the weight back, I don't know her personally so I cannot say that.
What I hope happens, after the sheer shock of her intense weight loss, Biggest Loser re-thinks its position. It should be all about healthy weight loss. So there should be a line that cannot get crossed. They should sit down with each of the contestants and a dr and determine what the lowest HEALTHY weight is for that person and put in their contracts that if they go below that line, they are disqualified.
Lets remember, this is supposed to motivate people to start their journey, not to promote unhealthy weight loss.
All in all, I really would rather watch Chris Powell and his wife on his show because its a one on one thing and that person's health is the priority! That is how it should be.
Suddenly BMI charts are accurate because we are talking about a skinny woman?
I guess anybody with a BMI of 25.5 deserves ridicule and has an eating disorder as well.
BMI charts are used for people of ALL sizes. I am not using it strictly because she is skinny. I am overweight and I know it and I am working on correcting that. My dr sat me down and showed me where I personally was on the BMI chart so no, I am NOT saying it simply because she is skinny, as I said, she went from one extreme to another. Unhealthy overweight and Unhealthy underweight. Also, as I said, who is to say she wont gain some back to look better and be healthy and just did the drastic and unhealthy weight loss for the money. We do not know but it does set a very poor example.
Sorry, but I don't see how somebody finishing their weight loss journey sets a poor example.
Well, if you are comfortable watching someone win a prize for being at an unhealthy size, that is up to you. As I said, even Bob and Jillian had a look of pure and honest concern on their faces when she walked out.
Let me be clear, I am not jealous, I am not envious, I am not hating on skinny people. I am just saying it is a concern when we see someone looking as unhealthy as she does, and underweight that we give her a prize and say "job well done, better too skinny then too fat"
Everybody's reaction, including yours, to a woman who may or may not be a FEW pounds under weight is what's shocking. You would've thought she came out looking like a holocaust survivor. She is not "clearly unhealthy" anymore than a person with a FEW extra pounds is clearly unhealthy.
How about I go around making rash judgements and assumptions about people who don't fit into a size 6 or below jeans. It seems people are less shocked at the sight of a morbidly obese woman than a woman who may be 1-2 lbs under weight. Truth is Rachel is closer to a "healthy" weight than 70% of Americans and maybe people really are just used to seeing their own fat.
She tripped on a stair she didn't notice beside her. Suddenly she doesn't have the energy to get or the mental capacity to know she won quick enough for you? Damn, you divined all of that from a stumble? You sure you aren't projecting, just a little?
What makes you think that she is healthy and you keep defending her. You are the one projecting. Projecting your insecurities that is why you keep defending your weight and making comments about the winner of the show that you don't know about because other people has something negative to say about her weight that apparently is similar to yours. It's a reality show and therefore a lot of things are exaggerated and edited but you don't even know the context of why people are concerned because you didn't watch the show and didn't know about Rachel's weight loss. "She tripped a stair she didn't notice?" How can she not notice a familiar stair she climbs every friggin week? I know what a diminished mental capacity looks like. Obviously I didn't brain imaging to know that for sure but I have enough training to know if someone's mental capacity is diminished.0 -
Their reaction was like Michael Jackson's reaction to Whitney Houston on his tribute special. She just looks slightly unhealthy, but hopefully she will gain some back. She looks much older than 24.0
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