Binging vs overeating

My point is about a loss of control. Maybe the intensity is different - but binging and overeating are a loss of control. If I ate a whole pizza out with friends - I would not be calm about it. It's much more pizza than I needed. If I am depressed and eat a whole tub of ice cream - I would not be calm about that either. It's about the loss of control - regardless of the circumstances.

But I don't see why you should feel bad about eating a pizza with your friends if that's what you want. Eating a pizza once in a while won't make you fat. Exceeding your caloric intake once in a while won't make you fat.
You don't have to eat at manteinance forever, this is unrealistic. It's more like a tendency than a static goal. You can't really be expecting to eat your exact TDEE every single day of your life. Also, overeating doesn't mean you're lacking of self control - if I feel very hungry and eat 100 kcals more than my goal and this is enough to quench my hunger, it's alright. It's planned, and it doesn't involve any bad feeling.

Over eating is never fine...it means you have lost control same with binging and usually is a way of coping with feelings as well.

Not true. Since I had an extra 540 calories yesterday, I will eat a little lighter today and tomorrow. Problem solved. That's easy for 540 calories, but not so easy if it had been an extra 3000 calories. Binge-eating is when you don't stop eating because it tastes so good, then you have to stop because you are going to vomit.

Also, I *always* overeat on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I plan to continue that in the future. There is nothing wrong with the occasional feast.

regardless of your opinion it doesn't negate mine as "untrue"

having an extra 540 calories while in a deficet can't be considered over eating unless you did it because it tasted good and you weren't hungry when you ate it...which to me is the same as binging...regardless of how many calories you take in.

Because you can binge on carrots, or grapes or chocolate or beer...calories are irrelevant it's the reason for doing it that makes it what it is.

No, 540 calories over maintenance. Calories are *exactly* what is relevant because too many of them is how I added an average of 6.4 pounds per year for a period of twenty years. Calories are how I lost nearly 80 pounds from July 2012 to May 2013 and how I have maintained from June 2012 to today.

The reason for doing it, for me, is that certain foods taste super-yummy, Period.

Like I said to me regardless of what you call it why you do it matters...if you are over maintenance because it tasted good that is unhealthy...eating an entire bag (and I mean a 2lb bag) of carrots mindlessly is unhealthy...calories be damned.

I have my thoughts on Overeating and binging and they are what they are and regardless of how many people tell me my thoughts are untrue it is based on my life experience...and tell me I am wrong or whatever doesn't matter.

I have my views on what is unhealthy when it comes to the consumption of food and you have yours they don't have to be the same...

I just find it odd that consistent overeating is called binging by the mental health community.

It's untrue that overeating is "never fine". You don't know if someone overeating is due to emotions or because they just want another slice of cake. If the person's goal is to lose weight, and they stay at a weekly deficit, what's the issue?

That's your opinion and it doesn't make my opinion "a lie"...I feel over-eating/binging regardless of the reason is not a good thing, esp if it puts you over your goals, is that you aren't changing those habits that got you fat in the first place.

I never said your opinion was a lie. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with over eating if you are at an overall deficit (if your goal is to lose weight). It doesn't matter if it's a binge or if you just overate accidentally.

Over eating is never fine...it means you have lost control same with binging and usually is a way of coping with feelings as well.

Not true. Since I had an extra 540 calories yesterday, I will eat a little lighter today and tomorrow. Problem solved. That's easy for 540 calories, but not so easy if it had been an extra 3000 calories. Binge-eating is when you don't stop eating because it tastes so good, then you have to stop because you are going to vomit.

Also, I *always* overeat on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I plan to continue that in the future. There is nothing wrong with the occasional feast.

regardless of your opinion it doesn't negate mine as "untrue"

having an extra 540 calories while in a deficet can't be considered over eating unless you did it because it tasted good and you weren't hungry when you ate it...which to me is the same as binging...regardless of how many calories you take in.

Because you can binge on carrots, or grapes or chocolate or beer...calories are irrelevant it's the reason for doing it that makes it what it is.

No, 540 calories over maintenance. Calories are *exactly* what is relevant because too many of them is how I added an average of 6.4 pounds per year for a period of twenty years. Calories are how I lost nearly 80 pounds from July 2012 to May 2013 and how I have maintained from June 2012 to today.

The reason for doing it, for me, is that certain foods taste super-yummy, Period.

Like I said to me regardless of what you call it why you do it matters...if you are over maintenance because it tasted good that is unhealthy...eating an entire bag (and I mean a 2lb bag) of carrots mindlessly is unhealthy...calories be damned.

I have my thoughts on Overeating and binging and they are what they are and regardless of how many people tell me my thoughts are untrue it is based on my life experience...and tell me I am wrong or whatever doesn't matter.

I have my views on what is unhealthy when it comes to the consumption of food and you have yours they don't have to be the same...

I just find it odd that consistent overeating is called binging by the mental health community.

It's untrue that overeating is "never fine". You don't know if someone overeating is due to emotions or because they just want another slice of cake. If the person's goal is to lose weight, and they stay at a weekly deficit, what's the issue?

That's your opinion and it doesn't make my opinion "a lie"...I feel over-eating/binging regardless of the reason is not a good thing, esp if it puts you over your goals, is that you aren't changing those habits that got you fat in the first place.

I never said your opinion was a lie. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with over eating if you are at an overall deficit (if your goal is to lose weight). It doesn't matter if it's a binge or if you just overate accidentally.

no just untrue...

over eating to me indicates you haven't made the changes to make the weight loss permanent, it's just a temporary thing...

I can honestly say I haven't "over ate" in the past year...why because that's what made me fat in the first place. Even during the holidays I had pie, turkey etc but I didn't eat so much I was uncomfortable, even while on holidays in Punta Cana I didn't over eat...

As to WednyTerry yes I got that "binge eating" is a symptom of mental health issues, it in itself is not the issue it is a symptom as you so indicated as your issue was depression...
...but binge eating is consistent overeating..was my point.

It's just semmantics at this point...consistent over eating = binging

For me, the difference is several hundred calories and a horrible stomach ache. I quit binge-eating the same way I quit binge-drinking, just got sick of feeling sick and set my mind to change it.

Overeating is what I did last night. I had an extra pumpkin bar (300 cal) after dinner, plus a candy bar (240 cal) after lunch.

Over eating is never fine...it means you have lost control same with binging and usually is a way of coping with feelings as well.

Not true. Since I had an extra 540 calories yesterday, I will eat a little lighter today and tomorrow. Problem solved. That's easy for 540 calories, but not so easy if it had been an extra 3000 calories. Binge-eating is when you don't stop eating because it tastes so good, then you have to stop because you are going to vomit.

Also, I *always* overeat on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I plan to continue that in the future. There is nothing wrong with the occasional feast.

regardless of your opinion it doesn't negate mine as "untrue"

having an extra 540 calories while in a deficet can't be considered over eating unless you did it because it tasted good and you weren't hungry when you ate it...which to me is the same as binging...regardless of how many calories you take in.

Because you can binge on carrots, or grapes or chocolate or beer...calories are irrelevant it's the reason for doing it that makes it what it is.

No, 540 calories over maintenance. Calories are *exactly* what is relevant because too many of them is how I added an average of 6.4 pounds per year for a period of twenty years. Calories are how I lost nearly 80 pounds from July 2012 to May 2013 and how I have maintained from June 2012 to today.

The reason for doing it, for me, is that certain foods taste super-yummy, Period.

Like I said to me regardless of what you call it why you do it matters...if you are over maintenance because it tasted good that is unhealthy...eating an entire bag (and I mean a 2lb bag) of carrots mindlessly is unhealthy...calories be damned.

I have my thoughts on Overeating and binging and they are what they are and regardless of how many people tell me my thoughts are untrue it is based on my life experience...and tell me I am wrong or whatever doesn't matter.

I have my views on what is unhealthy when it comes to the consumption of food and you have yours they don't have to be the same...

I just find it odd that consistent overeating is called binging by the mental health community.

It's untrue that overeating is "never fine". You don't know if someone overeating is due to emotions or because they just want another slice of cake. If the person's goal is to lose weight, and they stay at a weekly deficit, what's the issue?

That's your opinion and it doesn't make my opinion "a lie"...I feel over-eating/binging regardless of the reason is not a good thing, esp if it puts you over your goals, is that you aren't changing those habits that got you fat in the first place.

I never said your opinion was a lie. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with over eating if you are at an overall deficit (if your goal is to lose weight). It doesn't matter if it's a binge or if you just overate accidentally.

no just untrue...

over eating to me indicates you haven't made the changes to make the weight loss permanent, it's just a temporary thing...

I can honestly say I haven't "over ate" in the past year...why because that's what made me fat in the first place. Even during the holidays I had pie, turkey etc but I didn't eat so much I was uncomfortable, even while on holidays in Punta Cana I didn't over eat...

As to WednyTerry yes I got that "binge eating" is a symptom of mental health issues, it in itself is not the issue it is a symptom as you so indicated as your issue was depression...
...but binge eating is consistent overeating..was my point.

It's just semmantics at this point...consistent over eating = binging

Overeating did not make you fat. Choosing to not combat the overeating with calorie burns over time made you fat.

I just find it odd that consistent overeating is called binging by the mental health community.

It's because binge-eating is actually a disorder. It *IS* a mental health issue. My problems stemmed from untreated depression. I self-medicated with alcohol and chocolate, etc. The alcohol intensified the depression and caused a spiral effect. It only ended when I finally quit denying my problems and sought counseling.

Mental health professions understand the difference because it's their job.

http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/binge-eating-disorder

Over eating is never fine...it means you have lost control same with binging and usually is a way of coping with feelings as well.

Not true. Since I had an extra 540 calories yesterday, I will eat a little lighter today and tomorrow. Problem solved. That's easy for 540 calories, but not so easy if it had been an extra 3000 calories. Binge-eating is when you don't stop eating because it tastes so good, then you have to stop because you are going to vomit.

Also, I *always* overeat on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I plan to continue that in the future. There is nothing wrong with the occasional feast.

regardless of your opinion it doesn't negate mine as "untrue"

having an extra 540 calories while in a deficet can't be considered over eating unless you did it because it tasted good and you weren't hungry when you ate it...which to me is the same as binging...regardless of how many calories you take in.

Because you can binge on carrots, or grapes or chocolate or beer...calories are irrelevant it's the reason for doing it that makes it what it is.

No, 540 calories over maintenance. Calories are *exactly* what is relevant because too many of them is how I added an average of 6.4 pounds per year for a period of twenty years. Calories are how I lost nearly 80 pounds from July 2012 to May 2013 and how I have maintained from June 2012 to today.

The reason for doing it, for me, is that certain foods taste super-yummy, Period.

Like I said to me regardless of what you call it why you do it matters...if you are over maintenance because it tasted good that is unhealthy...eating an entire bag (and I mean a 2lb bag) of carrots mindlessly is unhealthy...calories be damned.

I have my thoughts on Overeating and binging and they are what they are and regardless of how many people tell me my thoughts are untrue it is based on my life experience...and tell me I am wrong or whatever doesn't matter.

I have my views on what is unhealthy when it comes to the consumption of food and you have yours they don't have to be the same...

I just find it odd that consistent overeating is called binging by the mental health community.

It's untrue that overeating is "never fine". You don't know if someone overeating is due to emotions or because they just want another slice of cake. If the person's goal is to lose weight, and they stay at a weekly deficit, what's the issue?

That's your opinion and it doesn't make my opinion "a lie"...I feel over-eating/binging regardless of the reason is not a good thing, esp if it puts you over your goals, is that you aren't changing those habits that got you fat in the first place.

I never said your opinion was a lie. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with over eating if you are at an overall deficit (if your goal is to lose weight). It doesn't matter if it's a binge or if you just overate accidentally.

no just untrue...

over eating to me indicates you haven't made the changes to make the weight loss permanent, it's just a temporary thing...

I can honestly say I haven't "over ate" in the past year...why because that's what made me fat in the first place. Even during the holidays I had pie, turkey etc but I didn't eat so much I was uncomfortable, even while on holidays in Punta Cana I didn't over eat...

As to WednyTerry yes I got that "binge eating" is a symptom of mental health issues, it in itself is not the issue it is a symptom as you so indicated as your issue was depression...
...but binge eating is consistent overeating..was my point.

It's just semmantics at this point...consistent over eating = binging

Overeating did not make you fat. Choosing to not combat the overeating with calorie burns over time made you fat.

LOL You can never outrun an overindulgent diet. Who would have the time if you are binging?

As a recovering bulimic, this topic hits very close to home for me.

Over-Eating: Having some extra pizza or an extra dessert when you are not hungry. Occasional over-eating is a NORMAL, typically social behavior. As other have mentioned, it is something that can be "made up for" fairly easily & while it may leave you with some guilt, it was not born from extreme negative emotion. It can become a habit, however - chronic overheating lands you in category 2 (below).

Lack of Impulse Control / Discipline: Going back to the pantry over & over, mindlessly munching, eating when you aren't hungry because something is "SO good" or "calling to you", etc. In some cases it can also be a sign that you are missing something your body needs (too few calories, not enough protein, needing a certain nutrient). Again, this is NORMAL for the average person on occasion.

Bingeing: A compulsive, psychologically driven behavior indicative of a total loss of emotional control that happens to involve food. Chronic bingeing is much more closely related to alcoholism or drug abuse than it is to over-eating. This is NOT NORMAL. Occasionally a one-time binge can fall into the "normal" category if associated directly w/ acute depression (such as the post-breakup bucket of iced cream)... Although usually these situations are actually just a more extreme example of a lack of impulse control (above).

The distinction is incredibly important, most notably because binge-eating is indicative of a psychological disorder for which one needs to seek professional guidance. Referring to normal, if not necessarily ideal, behavior as "bingeing" is downright insulting to those who have truly struggled with these behaviors.

As a recovering bulimic, this topic hits very close to home for me.

Over-Eating: Having some extra pizza or an extra dessert when you are not hungry. Occasional over-eating is a NORMAL, typically social behavior. As other have mentioned, it is something that can be "made up for" fairly easily & while it may leave you with some guilt, it was not born from extreme negative emotion. It can become a habit, however - chronic overheating lands you in category 2 (below).

Lack of Impulse Control / Discipline: Going back to the pantry over & over, mindlessly munching, eating when you aren't hungry because something is "SO good" or "calling to you", etc. In some cases it can also be a sign that you are missing something your body needs (too few calories, not enough protein, needing a certain nutrient). Again, this is NORMAL for the average person on occasion.

Bingeing: A compulsive, psychologically driven behavior indicative of a total loss of emotional control that happens to involve food. Chronic bingeing is much more closely related to alcoholism or drug abuse than it is to over-eating. This is NOT NORMAL. Occasionally a one-time binge can fall into the "normal" category if associated directly w/ acute depression (such as the post-breakup bucket of iced cream)... Although usually these situations are actually just a more extreme example of a lack of impulse control (above).

The distinction is incredibly important, most notably because binge-eating is indicative of a psychological disorder for which one needs to seek professional guidance. Referring to normal, if not necessarily ideal, behavior as "bingeing" is downright insulting to those who have truly struggled with these behaviors.