Does black caffeinated coffee count as daily water

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  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I've posted this dozens and dozens of times on MFP and I'm posting it again here for you all. Read, learn, and be amazed.

    Why the 8 glasses of water a day is a MYTH:

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=eight-glasses-water-per-day

    I call BS and this retired professor is the ONLY person I have ever heard say this.

    Water is vital to our existence. No soda, tea, juice, coffee, etc............ Water is vital.
    Actually a lot of people have said it. ( Look up post by HMonsterX)
    But if you're calling BS I guess you have a lot of scientific studies/data, right?
    BTW no one disagrees that your body needs water; we're just saying your body can get water from coffee, juice, milk etc

    I don't believe that we need drinks such as coffee, juice, milk, soda, etc.............

    I don't NEED coffee but I enjoy it so I have 2-3 cups of water in the morning, before and after that, I drink water.

    Water in the simple form is needed so much more than you all want to realize. This country has an obesity problem and juice, soda (both regular and diet) are contributing to the obesity problem and other issues such as Diabetes and High Blood Pressure.

    High blood pressure is caused from the body being in a chronic state of dehydration, not sodium as they try to tell you it is. The body being dehydrated causes an sodium one eats to be more prominent in the blood and causes a higher blood volume, therefore high blood pressure.

    I prefer water.
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,247 Member
    No because it is a diuretic.

    Wrong. Where do you get this information? It does not make you pee any more so than any other liquid.

    Coffee (and tea) are duiretics, it is nothing to do with making you pee.
  • ravihira1892
    ravihira1892 Posts: 149 Member
    when i drink coffee it seems to make me want to go pee a lot more then drinking water! what my body goes through in mornings anyways! ever since i stopped drinking coffee & just plain water i only go once in the early mornings! Science or no science thats my result

    also coffee dehydrates you so my vote is no
  • sunnyday789
    sunnyday789 Posts: 309 Member
    I know many people with high blood pressure. None of them developed it from being chronically dehydrated.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    when i drink coffee it seems to make me want to go pee a lot more then drinking water! what my body goes through in mornings anyways! ever since i stopped drinking coffee & just plain water i only go once in the early mornings! Science or no science thats my result

    also coffee dehydrates you so my vote is no
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  • lyoung0216
    lyoung0216 Posts: 31
    sooooo, what is the answer!??!

    LOL
  • alhal22
    alhal22 Posts: 2 Member
    You should ask a nutritionist. Doctors are required to take only ONE class in nutrition in med school.
  • rabblerabble
    rabblerabble Posts: 471 Member
    I don't count my coffee as water
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Zombie thread!
  • dindav56
    dindav56 Posts: 2
    Let Me reason this through with Me, Myself and I....If I Distracted/Separated ALL of the Soda Ingredients (with or without caffeine) from the 'Water' ....I would have a ...uhhhh...a 'Weird Tasting, Dry Soda Flavored Powder' ....AND...a glass of 'WATER'. In layman's terms....(because I am a layman),....I have heard that the the main difference is that pure water goes through the system with much less filtering effort and/or processing...However, every Non-Water Ingredient Added has to be separated and processed differently which causes the kidneys and liver to work harder than if it were only plain water....(Which, on the other hand to Me, Myself and I, doesn't sound so bad...because isn't that what the kidneys and liver are 'supposed' to do?....'Work'?....Which would cause the body to burn more calories?

    Well, Wisdom from the past remains true for the present, "All things (food & exercise) in Moderation" and we should be OK.

    For me a couple cups of coffee won't hurt...If I feel unsure, I might drink an extra cup of water just to be on the safe side.
  • dindav56
    dindav56 Posts: 2
    Yeah...I kind of agree... Those who say Water doesn't count as water if mixed with anything else...should also Not Be Counting Water as Water if they are having it even with their meals - (or within...let's say...an hour of a meal - before and/or after) ...Because then - the water is being 'Mixed' with other ingredients (in your stomach), which according to so many ....is Not Water.

    So, Again 'I Say'...'all things in moderation' ...if in doubt - drink a little extra water and don't worry about it. Your body will tell you if it is thirsty...just listen to it.
  • PoliticalPower1
    PoliticalPower1 Posts: 3
    Someone asked this question (Does black caffeinated coffee count as daily water?) and quite frankly that is a STUPID QUESTION ! :laugh:


    The answer is NO!

    If you drink your coffee fine, but you must drink all your water every day. In case you do not understand.

    You may have a cup of coffee, but you must drink all the water that is required for your specialized diet plan.

    Remember this next time GENIUS! When attempting to ask a question do not forget to complete the sentence with proper grammar and punctuations.

    Thank you
  • PoliticalPower1
    PoliticalPower1 Posts: 3
    Someone asked this question (Does black caffeinated coffee count as daily water?) and quite frankly that is a STUPID QUESTION ! :laugh:


    The answer is NO!

    If you drink your coffee fine, but you must drink all your water every day. In case you do not understand.

    You may have a cup of coffee, but you must drink all the water that is required for your specialized diet plan.

    Remember this next time GENIUS! When attempting to ask a question do not forget to complete the sentence with proper grammar and punctuations.

    Thank you
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

    I don't tell people to drink water. In general, people are hydrated. Not sure where you get "statistically most people are dehydrated" I have read/heard that also but no data to support that.
    I don't know why people want to pee every hour. A waste of TP and water, not to mention the chemicals that are going in to the waterways to treat the sewage water everytime you flush.

    Before I started my lifestyle change, I drank 5 or 6 Dr Peppers a day, sometimes whole 2 liters by myself, and my doctors always said that I was dehydrated.
    From the Mayo clinic website:

    Question
    Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
    I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
    Answer
    from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
    It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.

    Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.


    Beyond the tap: Other sources of water
    Although it's a great idea to keep water within reach at all times, you don't need to rely only on what you drink to meet your fluid needs. What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake. For example, many fruits and vegetables, such as watermelon and tomatoes, are 90 percent or more water by weight.

    In addition, beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute, but these should not be a major portion of your daily total fluid intake. Water is still your best bet because it's calorie-free, inexpensive and readily available.

    Well, I think the bolded part answers your statement efficiently. Your doctor was not wrong. That's a lot of soda to drink. Awesome though that you've been able to cut down on it! Btw love your picture w/your name, haha :laugh:
  • romanaXOX
    romanaXOX Posts: 400 Member
    technically for every cup of coffee you have, you should be drinking an extra cup of water bc the coffee dehydrates you .

    thiiiiss
  • Jrk_fitness
    Jrk_fitness Posts: 16 Member
    You should not look at it in context of water. But rather fluid intake. So yes coffee adds to fluid intake, although high amounts of caffeine and alcohol does have a diuretic effect.
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